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to think Will Smith should be stripped of his Oscar?

652 replies

BloodyloveGeorge · 28/03/2022 16:52

The Academy is supposed to have a code of conduct ( post Weinstein) so can take his Oscar away.
Given that this was a blatant assault, and a clear case of toxic masculinity at it's worst, he should lose his Oscar. He's not a role model, his behaviour isn't something that should be celebrated. There should be consequences for this example of violence.
Even a 6 year old knows you can't punch someone because they say something you don't like.

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Blossomtoes · 28/03/2022 21:15

No, it's not shameful at all. There is never any justification for anyone resorting to violence, it's that simple. He is a thug and I don't like that you're excusing him.

Nor me. It makes me very uncomfortable.

2DogsOnMySofa · 28/03/2022 21:16

Yes he should be stripped of it and he should also have been removed from the ceremony.

Rock should also receive consequences for his vile 'joke'

We have work awards at the end of each year, and there are hosts who make jokes, if one of my work colleagues took offence and slapped another colleague they'd probably be fired for gross misconduct, the person making the joke would also end up on a disciplinary. Just because they are famous, rich and on tv doesn't mean you can go around making vile jokes or slapping people. Both as bad as each other. If Will had simply remained calm and pulled up Rock verbally, the whole world would have been right by him. As it is now, he's hardly a poster boy or role model, and certainly lost all moral high ground

PaperTyger · 28/03/2022 21:18

I'm surprised , I think Chris rock is at fault here!

NeverChange · 28/03/2022 21:19

Will Smith could have reacted in so many other ways other than resorting to violence.

He would have got a much better reaction but calling CR out saying "it appropriate, very low, would have expected better etc. and remain seated.

If my DH acted like this if someone insulted or joked about me in a similar manner, I would be far more disgusted with him than the insult. Firstly, I can defend myself, secondly, violence is not the answer and thirdly, I would find a man who couldn't control his temper utterly repulsive.

BeHappy91818 · 28/03/2022 21:19

@PaperTyger

I'm surprised , I think Chris rock is at fault here!
Same!
Birdy272 · 28/03/2022 21:21

Why are the overly sensitive saying GI Jane is an insult..? Have you actually seen that film.. 🤔 I have, and I have alopecia. She CHOSE to attend the Oscar's without a wig. Her head was bald.

What's that matter?

BeHappy91818 · 28/03/2022 21:22

@Birdy272

Why are the overly sensitive saying GI Jane is an insult..? Have you actually seen that film.. 🤔 I have, and I have alopecia. She CHOSE to attend the Oscar's without a wig. Her head was bald.

What's that matter?

Doesn’t mean she wants to be insulted on her medical condition ffs.
DarleneSnell · 28/03/2022 21:22

Well I'd revoke it. The other winning arseholes aren't worthy, but they came before the code of conduct was brought in. Why introduce it if you're literally going to award someone their Oscar after they hit a presenter at the ceremony?!

This whole thing is like a weird episode of black mirror where something awful has happened but everyone there is ignoring it and carrying on as normal, even now. WS assaulted someone on international TV and has suffered no actual consequences at all.

samsonn66 · 28/03/2022 21:22

sorry to say that the punch/slap was a signal flare to the bigger issue in Wills life. He is a man whos whole life is based upon his image in the spotlight and that is in trouble. His wife openly discussed thier open relationship without his prior knowledge on international Tv. Discussing all the partners and emotional deepness involved. she just declared that Will has been lacking in one department or another for a long time. Will has spent the last 5ys being the butt of many a joke and meme. he lashed out. infact he lashed out on a public stage on a much smaller man.
He did feel as if his male pride was being judged on all sides and someone had to get it. while the joke was in bad taste, you sit in the front row infront of a comedian at your own peril. as the say some people court the press and media. the whole Smith family do including thier children.
Male mental health is a fragile thing that only NOW is being discussed, however those tears were not fake... they were a sign of a broken man, clinging on... pray for him as he will be in a bad bad place for a long time.
Violence is never the start but a end. look at whats realy going on as Will originally laughed at the joke and Chris stated he was just joking...

Pinkyxx · 28/03/2022 21:22

The joke was crass and crossed a line. It's not funny to make a public joke at the expense of what is a deeply personal illness. I don't condone violence in any circumstances. That said, everything exists on a spectrum, do I qualify the slap Will Smith gave Chris Rock as ''assault''? No I don't.

On the spectrum of offensive behavior I consider it far more offensive to make fun of a women's auto-immune disease and sexuality than to slap a man for having had the audacity to do on in front of literally millions of people. If you ask me it's about time someone called time on this distasteful practice of publicly humiliating people disguised as ''comedy''.

Birdy272 · 28/03/2022 21:23

How is 'GI Jane' an insult? 🤔

BeHappy91818 · 28/03/2022 21:24

@Birdy272

How is 'GI Jane' an insult? 🤔
Are you purposely being thick?
Blossomtoes · 28/03/2022 21:25

@samsonn66

sorry to say that the punch/slap was a signal flare to the bigger issue in Wills life. He is a man whos whole life is based upon his image in the spotlight and that is in trouble. His wife openly discussed thier open relationship without his prior knowledge on international Tv. Discussing all the partners and emotional deepness involved. she just declared that Will has been lacking in one department or another for a long time. Will has spent the last 5ys being the butt of many a joke and meme. he lashed out. infact he lashed out on a public stage on a much smaller man. He did feel as if his male pride was being judged on all sides and someone had to get it. while the joke was in bad taste, you sit in the front row infront of a comedian at your own peril. as the say some people court the press and media. the whole Smith family do including thier children. Male mental health is a fragile thing that only NOW is being discussed, however those tears were not fake... they were a sign of a broken man, clinging on... pray for him as he will be in a bad bad place for a long time. Violence is never the start but a end. look at whats realy going on as Will originally laughed at the joke and Chris stated he was just joking...
Here we go, you’re at it now. There’s someone on the other thread coming up with all these pathetic excuses for poor little Will. Doesn’t wash.
Birdy272 · 28/03/2022 21:25

Behappy, love, I have alopecia myself. Are you thick as shitty jam or sommat?

Pumperthepumper · 28/03/2022 21:25

@Birdy272

Why are the overly sensitive saying GI Jane is an insult..? Have you actually seen that film.. 🤔 I have, and I have alopecia. She CHOSE to attend the Oscar's without a wig. Her head was bald.

What's that matter?

He was suggesting she was in GI Jane 2 purely because she was bald. Choosing not to wear a wig doesn’t mean you’re fair game for insults.
Birdy272 · 28/03/2022 21:27

But she CHOSE to attend the ceremony bald 🤣 Wow people need to step back and breath the smelling salts 🥴

Pumperthepumper · 28/03/2022 21:27

@Birdy272

But she CHOSE to attend the ceremony bald 🤣 Wow people need to step back and breath the smelling salts 🥴
But that doesn’t mean she should be insulted.
RainbowZebraWarrior · 28/03/2022 21:29

@Fullmoonagain

His Father was a perpetrator of domestic violence against his mother. Verbal abuse is massively triggering for him, nevermind the disrespect to his wife. The alopecia joke was such a low blow, Chris Rock should be massively apologetic. You don't get to say what the hell you like and have no consequences, massive celebrity or not.
Hang on, Violence in childhood can and does tend to perpetuate in male children who have been exposed to it (I'm a female who's father subjected my mother to repeated violence)

Therefore, am I ok to thump anyone who offends me or my family because it's triggering?

Nope. Never hit anyone in my life. Despite having many reasons to do so. Because I'm female, and it tends to be rather rare, actually.

changingjobstomorrow · 28/03/2022 21:29

Yes, of course he should. He should have been escorted out of the building after the offence.

BeHappy91818 · 28/03/2022 21:30

@Birdy272

Behappy, love, I have alopecia myself. Are you thick as shitty jam or sommat?
Right? You have alopecia … so what? What relevance has that got to this but maybe you should have some more empathy for Jada instead of coming out with the bull shit she chose not to wear a wig.

That’s her right and it doesn’t mean someone can take the piss.

It’s very clear why it was an insult but you’re clearly being a dumb ass on purpose.

Fullmoonagain · 28/03/2022 21:31

@PaperTyger

I'm surprised , I think Chris rock is at fault here!
Absolutely, went way too far.
100problems · 28/03/2022 21:31

Smith wins in every way. He’s trousered the fee for his Oscar role, he’s won a whole new fan base for being a proper dude (47% of this forum that have voted agree), and whether the Oscar gets stripped or not he won it.

He will be on every chat shows “must have” list and the films producers just got a bump in ticket sales, of which Smith will likely have cut a %.

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containsnuts · 28/03/2022 21:31

Jada didn't seem that shocked by Will's behaviour. I suspect it's not the first time he has resorted to physical violence - he is clearly impulsive and quick to anger. Red flag.

SaltedCaramelIcedLatte · 28/03/2022 21:32

@TeenPlusCat

No, because the Oscar and the slap aren't linked. He should probably have been ejected and not allowed to collect the Oscar though, but he wasn't. You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?
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