to think Will Smith should be stripped of his Oscar?

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The Academy is supposed to have a code of conduct ( post Weinstein) so can take his Oscar away.
Given that this was a blatant assault, and a clear case of toxic masculinity at it's worst, he should lose his Oscar. He's not a role model, his behaviour isn't something that should be celebrated. There should be consequences for this example of violence.
Even a 6 year old knows you can't punch someone because they say something you don't like.

He defended his wife against an idiot saying twatty things about her. I applaud him. I don't condone violence but Rock was verbally abusing his wife.

Why didn't use his words then? There was no need for violence.

Err no. He got the Oscar for his acting and his acting was brilliant.

I can’t believe they let him collect it. Why security didn’t intervene and throw Will Smith out.

Might teach that guy to think twice before making a joke about somebody's illness or appearance. He deserved it IMHO.

Like a child he should have been given an immediate consequence. Why the hell wasn't he escorted out?!

He should be prosecuted for assault and banned from any future Oscars ceremonies.

'And repugnant as I find both of those 2 men their guilt isn't as clear cut

I think you will find that Polanski's is very clear cut. He would be arrested if he were extradited to the US. He pleaded guilty fgs.'

As I said, time to change the narrative. He actually pleaded not guilty before agreeing to a single charge of unlawful sex with a minor in a plea bargain. Repulsive, guilty little shit obvs.

The fact they didn't do anything at the time shows how unprecedented this was ... all that security but they hadn't thought about their A listers violently assaulting a presenter live on stage,

The only message it would send is that the Academy punish black men's violence while celebrating white men's, even if it was meant to be the start of the Academy actually giving a fuck about ethics which it doesn't.

There is a long list of violent white actors who still retain their awards. If they chose to retract those and Will Smith's is part of the academy's reform against actors who've been violent, sure, but you can't start that with Will Smith without it being very dodgy and with how things are in the US right, it would fast become a political issue that the US does not need.

'but you can't start that with Will Smith without it being very dodgy '

You can absolutely start with a man who walked up to another person on stage, DURING your live awards event and assaulted them.
Sorry, but what now? We're allowing male violence to try to seem to NOT be racist. FFS.

@VariationsonaTheme

Unlikely given that the Academy allows people like Woody Allen and Roman Polanski to be nominated and win.

Absolutely. What he did was wrong but I can understand why he did it.

Given that Harvey Weinstein still has his 17 oscars, no.

@ParisLondonTokyoSlough

Given that Harvey Weinstein still has his 17 oscars, no.

*81 wins sorry

Absolutely stunned at people doing anything other than whole heartedly condemning will smith for reacting with violence. No excuse at all.

I don’t want him stripped of the Oscar though. I don’t think the oscars should be based on personality.

He didn’t react in the moment. He laughed and then saw his wife was upset and only then did he decide to assault Chris Rock.

For those saying he somehow stood up for his wife, it’s 2022! Why do we need a man to stand up for us? Perhaps they could have had a duel?!

What CR said was personal and unpleasant but Will Smith should not have reacted by assaulting him; in doing so he played into the hands of so many derogatory stereotypes about men generally and black men in particular. The fact that he was laughing about it later is actually quite disgusting.

I’ve never seen him as a good actor - he’s like Hugh Grant, I always think he’s “playing” a version of himself as a nice guy but after his behaviour last night maybe he’s a better actor
than I’ve given him credit for!

#TeamWill

I think they were as bad as each other - I don't understand the view that words don't wound, they can cause more damage than a slap for many people.

They won’t even take back Roman Polanski’s Oscar and he was convicted of raping a child. Mel Gibson is another piece of shit who’s been allowed to keep his.

Will smith behaved badly, he shouldn’t have done what he did and he should have been removed from the ceremony immediately. But if the academy take back his award they’d be massive hypocrites. More so than they arguably are already for multiple reasons.

The Academy is supposed to have a code of conduct good perhaps they could have a think about employing someone to be so desperately unkind to the wife of one of those winning an Oscar? It’s just what we do “bantz” are rarely benign and often abusive.

@Picoloangel
Will Smith did not laugh about hitting Chris Rock later! He was in tears, head in his hands and then he did a public apology.

They chose not to do something during the Oscars so yeah, they allowed it. 'We' are not allowing anything as we're not part of that decision making.

Doing something afterwards is too late and to do it only to Will Smith and not to any other violence actor would look dodgy. Not just racist, but that they view one man striking another at their event as worse than all the other violence perpetrated by actors with Oscars. Disturbing their precious event with violence is so terrible we're going to strip your award, but not those who've committed rape, domestic violence, and so on. Can you get now how dodgy it looks? How it might just spark political ire that isn't going to be of much benefit?

Chris Rock isn't filing a police report so yeah, he's allowing it too. That's both how the law there works and how many who have little faith in the police and the rest of the legal system work.

And the Academy has always allowed male violence. Many of the movies they award glorify it. No matter what code of conduct they put in to quell public frustration with them, they don't care about morality and making Will Smith an attempt to appear so isn't something I can get behind.

Nope. If he was White it 100% would never be stripped, so same should apply here

Sad to see so many supporting typical male violence.

I agree OP, by not sanctioning his behaviour we indicate physical violence is acceptable.
For the same reason, I supported the removal of Clarkson from Top Gear.
If either of these men were from more ordinary backgrounds would they not be facing charges of criminal assault
?

Nope. Disagree. He was given the award for his acting performance. His "set do' with Rock is completely separate. And is not even remotely similar to Weinstein.