to think Will Smith should be stripped of his Oscar?

[BloodyloveGeorge]

The Academy is supposed to have a code of conduct ( post Weinstein) so can take his Oscar away.
Given that this was a blatant assault, and a clear case of toxic masculinity at it's worst, he should lose his Oscar. He's not a role model, his behaviour isn't something that should be celebrated. There should be consequences for this example of violence.
Even a 6 year old knows you can't punch someone because they say something you don't like.

No, because the Oscar and the slap aren't linked.
He should probably have been ejected and not allowed to collect the Oscar though, but he wasn't.
You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?

'You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?'

You absolutely can, and this wouldn't be the first awards body to strip someone for awful behaviour not wanting their award associated with violence.
It might end up with people realising you can't do however you like because you're famous or rich or win an award.
And if you think Oscars are given out purely on acting performance then you're just being naive.

Unlikely given that the Academy allows people like Woody Allen and Roman Polanski to be nominated and win.

@TeenPlusCat

No, because the Oscar and the slap aren't linked. He should probably have been ejected and not allowed to collect the Oscar though, but he wasn't. You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?

I agree with this. The punishment should fit the crime rather than just be randomly dished out to teach people lessons. Being removed from the event would have been more appropriate.

'Unlikely given that the Academy allows people like Woody Allen and Roman Polanski to be nominated and win.'

Even more reason for them to start changing the narrative. And repugnant as I find both of those 2 men their guilt isn't as clear cut, unfortunately.

No, he slapped another equally matched male for making a joke at the expense of his wife 🤷🏻‍♀️

@TeenPlusCat

No, because the Oscar and the slap aren't linked. He should probably have been ejected and not allowed to collect the Oscar though, but he wasn't. You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?

This. The work and the person are separate.

No, he slapped another equally matched male for making a joke at the expense of his wife 🤷🏻‍♀️'

Equally matched? They didn't duel at dawn. He walked up and assaulted someone. For saying something he didn't like.

I agree with you op

He's no role model. No dignity in that ugly event at all

Who the hell does he think he is?

He defended his wife against an idiot saying twatty things about her. I applaud him. I don't condone violence but Rock was verbally abusing his wife.

@BloodyloveGeorge

'You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?'

You absolutely can, and this wouldn't be the first awards body to strip someone for awful behaviour not wanting their award associated with violence.
It might end up with people realising you can't do however you like because you're famous or rich or win an award.
And if you think Oscars are given out purely on acting performance then you're just being naive.

Are you also campaigning for Casey Affleck to have his Oscar taken away; not to mention all Oscars won by Miramax; any that Woody Allen has won, not to mention William Hurt, and of course Roman Polanski’s. Oh, and Mel Gibson, and Kevin Spacey and Dustin Hoffman and…

@TeenPlusCat

No, because the Oscar and the slap aren't linked. He should probably have been ejected and not allowed to collect the Oscar though, but he wasn't. You can't/shouldn't 'cancel' his acting performance because you don't like what he did - where would that end up?

Of course they are linked. He did it in their house. On live TV.

I can't be arsed about the Oscars. It's just one self congratulatory cringe fest these days.

I will be voting with my wallet and won't be watching any Will Smith or Chris Rock films, which will be easy because I don't think I even seen a Chris Rick one.

@teaandtoastwithmarmite

He defended his wife against an idiot saying twatty things about her. I applaud him. I don't condone violence but Rock was verbally abusing his wife.

This

He didn't defend his wife

He laughed along with everyone.... then apparently thought different and became a violent thug

Nope. He went about it the wrong way, but what Chris Brown said was awful. His wife has been very open in the past about how hard she has found suffering from alopecia and it is disgusting to joke about a health condition in that way.

Very different from Rebel Wilson's joke about her multiple boyfriends a few weeks ago. Which was also bitchy and unfunny, but Chris Brown is in another league here

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross I would be quite happy for all those Oscars to be stripped. But that’s a total strawman argument, because those people didn’t assault anyone live on stage. Just because they have given then to bad people previously doesn’t mean they should allow this one to stand when it’s so blatant.

@Shurl

Nope. He went about it the wrong way, but what Chris Brown said was awful. His wife has been very open in the past about how hard she has found suffering from alopecia and it is disgusting to joke about a health condition in that way.

Very different from Rebel Wilson's joke about her multiple boyfriends a few weeks ago. Which was also bitchy and unfunny, but Chris Brown is in another league here

chris brown and chris rock are two different men

@OppsUpsSide

No, he slapped another equally matched male for making a joke at the expense of his wife 🤷🏻‍♀️

I second you on this!

And repugnant as I find both of those 2 men their guilt isn't as clear cut, unfortunately

Roman Polanski was charged and about to stand trial, when he found out the judge was planning a custodial sentence he fled the country. Other women have since come forward saying he assaulted/raped them and Interpol have out a red level warrant for his arrest. Hardly murky waters, is it?

Equally matched? They didn't duel at dawn.

No, that indeed would be a whole other scenario wouldn’t it.

Chris Rock, sorry.

I think alot of people would have applauded him thumping woman-beater Chris brown though!

you can't punch someone because they say something you don't like.

It’s true you can’t smack someone (it wasn’t punch) for saying something you merely dislike. But the joke was a two pronged attack on Jada Pinkett...the “GI Jane” was both referring to her alopevia medical condition and a biphobic slur regarding her sexuality (GI Jane was accused of being a closet lesbian just like Jada has been in the past when she came out as bi).

So while I agree one should not hit someone making biphobic or homophobic jokes using such slang based slurs, it’s a little more than “disliking” an acceptable joke that wasn’t bigoted in any way....

And repugnant as I find both of those 2 men their guilt isn't as clear cut

I think you will find that Polanski's is very clear cut. He would be arrested if he were extradited to the US. He pleaded guilty fgs.

'He defended his wife against an idiot saying twatty things about her. I applaud him. I don't condone violence but Rock was verbally abusing his wife.'

Sorry, you don't condone him but applaud him? Do you realise how little sense that makes.