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to not get the Mandela effect when it comes to Nelson Mandela

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cakeorwine · 27/03/2022 20:49

People thinking he died in prison...

His leaving house arrest was a big news event.
Winning the Nobel Peace Prize
The first elections after apartheid
Becoming President.
Presenting the Rugby World Cup to the winning South African team in South Africa
His death in 2013

All massive news events.

I get some people thinking certain people had died before they had and misremembering other stuff and events...

But thinking Nelson Mandela had died in jail in the 80s....Seriously?
Meeting the Queen
His death and funeral in

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DoucheCanoe · 27/03/2022 20:51

Isn't that the whole point of the Mandela effect?

It's non-sensical when you look into it but there is a collective memory that seems to act as "proof".

Toucan123 · 27/03/2022 20:55

I don't get it either, how so many people can think he died in prison and don't remember him being released, becoming president etc is beyond me. So weird.

tearingmyhearout242 · 27/03/2022 20:56

Can’t remember the Nelson Mandela one specifically but I swear, hand on heart I experienced the Flintstones/Flinstones one.

I always remembered it at Flintstones. Then one day while bored I ended up on some internet rabbit hole about the Mandela effect and found people on a forum absolutely freaking out because the Flintstones had become Flinstones. People were baffled. I remember being in disbelief. It didn’t make sense that it was Flinstones. Flintstones was a play on words. I wasn’t right for a week.

Then I forgot about it. A few months later I saw something online and it had changed back to Flintstones. I can’t find any trace of those forum posts.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 27/03/2022 20:57

He didn't leave house arrest. He left prison.

cakeorwine · 27/03/2022 20:58

I can get some things being misremembered. "Luke, I am your father"...but that's just a line from a film.

This was a man who achieved so much. And was worldwide news.

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GrandTheftWalrus · 27/03/2022 20:59

I started a thread about this a while ago. Well more about the effect and not actually him. Some of the things people were posting fascinated me.

cakeorwine · 27/03/2022 21:00

@PastMyBestBeforeDate

He didn't leave house arrest. He left prison.
The film I watched seemed to portray it as house arrest - but it was a warden's house in a prison apparently.
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OmgIThinkILikeYou · 27/03/2022 21:01

I don't care what anyone or any 'proof' says, Britney Spears absolutely used to have a headset in the Oops I Did It Again video. No I am not thinking of her stage performances, she had it on in the video.

Clymene · 27/03/2022 21:02

I'd never heard of this until a threadbare few weeks ago and I don't know anyone who thought he'd died.

mildlydispeptic · 27/03/2022 21:03

Speaking as someone who grew up in South Africa: WTF is this drivel?

KeyErro · 27/03/2022 21:03

Agree, it pisses me off.
It's just somebody ill-informed who remembers something wrong.

Darhon · 27/03/2022 21:03

I agree about Mandela. It was part of culture that he was imprisoned- the Free Nelson Mandela song. Politicians who campaigned for his release etc.

cakeorwine · 27/03/2022 21:05

@mildlydispeptic

Speaking as someone who grew up in South Africa: WTF is this drivel?
The Mandela effect is some people claim to remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 80s.

It's now used when a lot of people misremember something that isn't true.

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Bakedbanana · 27/03/2022 21:07

yes I never understand this at all!
I also wonder if many black people experience this 'Mandela effect' Confused

DoucheCanoe · 27/03/2022 21:10

Maybe it's generational?

All of the things you mentioned happened before my 8th birthday and tbh we never really spoke about him at school so by the time I was old enough to notice anything in the media I assumed he was either still incarcerated or dead.

I saw him give a speech in Edinburgh in 2005 and was taken aback by his appearance but even then I thought he died not long after so his actual death seemed odd.

OmgIThinkILikeYou · 27/03/2022 21:11

It's not saying the remember it wrong, the Mandela theory suggests that there are different timeliness that exist and these have somehow blended or some people have switched timelines. That is why so many people remember the things one way when all evidence suggests it was another.

So if you go by this, all the events with Nelson Mandela after his supposed death wouldn't have happened in one timeline, so that is why people don't remember them. When those people ended up in this timeline, they were confused as they remembered the headlines of him dying from their own.

It's really a parallel universes theory but it isn't as simple as, oh why don't they remember x y and z, because the theory is based on large chunks of people switching parallel universes without knowledge.

cakeorwine · 27/03/2022 21:16

Mandela theory suggests that there are different timeliness that exist and these have somehow blended or some people have switched timelines. That is why so many people remember the things one way when all evidence suggests it was another

Or maybe people just remember it wrong and when it keeps being repeated "e.g. Play it again Sam, Luke I am your father, Mirror Mirror on the wall", that's what they think the truth is.

www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/mandela-effect

Another way to describe the Mandela effect is “collective false memories.” A large group of people collectively always say a particular saying or memory a certain way when, in reality, the truth is different from the memory.

Conspiracy theorists believe the Mandela effect is an example of alternate universes present in society. However, doctors have a much different explanation of memory, and how some memories, although vivid, can be false.

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OmgIThinkILikeYou · 27/03/2022 21:26

@cakeorwine

Mandela theory suggests that there are different timeliness that exist and these have somehow blended or some people have switched timelines. That is why so many people remember the things one way when all evidence suggests it was another

Or maybe people just remember it wrong and when it keeps being repeated "e.g. Play it again Sam, Luke I am your father, Mirror Mirror on the wall", that's what they think the truth is.

www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/mandela-effect

Another way to describe the Mandela effect is “collective false memories.” A large group of people collectively always say a particular saying or memory a certain way when, in reality, the truth is different from the memory.

Conspiracy theorists believe the Mandela effect is an example of alternate universes present in society. However, doctors have a much different explanation of memory, and how some memories, although vivid, can be false.

I was talking about the theory, not saying I agree. I was trying to explain why people wouldn't remember Nelson Mandela after his 'death in prison' if you go along with the theory behind the Mandela Effect. The whole thing is a conspiracy theory, that's why it's fun.
Getoff · 27/03/2022 21:26

@PastMyBestBeforeDate

He didn't leave house arrest. He left prison.
I was going to say you were wrong, because he spent the last part of his incarceration in a an ordinary suburban house. But some googling reveals he was transferred back a proper prison for a couple of months before his release. Also, thinking about it more, although he was living in a house rather than a prison for the majority of the period leading up to his release, even if he had been released from there, being imprisoned in a house is not the same thing as being under house arrest.
cakeorwine · 27/03/2022 21:28

you go along with the theory behind the Mandela Effect. The whole thing is a conspiracy theory, that's why it's fun

I think there's lots of theories. Nor just one

The human brain is fascinating

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LittleSnakes · 27/03/2022 21:29

What’s the mirror mirror on the wall one?

EmeraldShamrock1 · 27/03/2022 21:30

I've never met anyone who believed Nelson Mandela died in prison.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 27/03/2022 21:33

But you 'remember' it wrong because you saw it in a film Confused

mildlydispeptic · 27/03/2022 21:35

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thenightsky · 27/03/2022 21:36

@OmgIThinkILikeYou

I don't care what anyone or any 'proof' says, Britney Spears absolutely used to have a headset in the Oops I Did It Again video. No I am not thinking of her stage performances, she had it on in the video.
Yes!! I remember her in headphones too.

I also remember hearing on the news that Oscar Pistorius had died in prison... I'm bloody sure I did. Then he was on the news again, live and well and no mention of that news item Confused