To ask what you’re doing awake post-midnight? Part 3: Return of the Insomnia

[5YearsLeft]

Hey all - We’ve made it to the third thread. Whether you’ve posted before or you’re brand new, if you’re stuck awake, then you’re welcome here. We’ve had people facing it all on the last few threads: grief (loss of DPs, DHs, parents, children, and pets), illness of every sort (cancer, COVID, post COVID, sciatica, antidepressant withdrawals, stomach bugs of every sort, cold/flu, autoimmune problems, and even more diagnoses), ill children and partners (vomiting, crying, unable to sleep… and that’s just the adult family members! Ok I’m kidding, that was mostly the kids), women in labor, women with surgery fears, fears of all other sizes, anxiety, work anxiety, and of course insomnia caused by myriad things (LOTS of peri and postmenopausal insomnia).

Whatever is keeping you awake, you’re always welcome to share it here.

If you’re following in from our last thread, it’s:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4473171-To-ask-what-you-re-doing-awake-post-midnight-Part-2-Insomnia-Strikes-Back

Sorry to hear about the radiotherapy @Confusedmeanderings , retail therapy founds far more therapeutic!!

I'm up having a miscarriage at 8 weeks. It was expected so I'm relieved to not need surgery/medical management, but it's still really shit after ttc for nearly a year.

There's so much gore and everytime I get up to go back to bed I need to run to the toilet again 😩

Wide awake stressed about two main things really, the sale of my late mother’s property and finishing up the probate process on her estate, and the fact that my terminally ill paternal grandmother is over 80 miles away on an end of life care pathway.

I think these two things aren’t the main source of my stress though, it’s my unsupportive husband who throws a tantrum when he’s asked to do something fairly inconsequential to support me with all of this such as change a work from home day so I can travel to visit the hospital in the event that she’s still with us on Tuesday… But he doesn’t even have the balls to come out and say he’s pissed about that, he’s carrying on about some other nonsense to deflect from his abject selfish behaviour.

@Maybeonedayeventually that really is shit. i'm sending a big hug - not that its of practical use but its the only thing i can do. ❤

@Orangesox you really are going through the mill at the moment. I hope that things get easier for you.

@Maybeonedayeventually that sucks, not much else to be said. Hope the next time is a totally different outcome. Have you looked into acupuncture? I used it very successfully though for different things. But also pregnancy related.
@Orangesox I have one who can be like that. We are just not good at supporting each other when there's stress. But it's good for the rest of the time.
Been awake since five. Will push through the day safe in the knowledge that tonight will be better sleep wise, Jon interview was a thumbs down but they have asked me to apply for other stuff with them so shall do so (when I can find the time and energy...)
Hope everyone is having the best day they can. I am off out to buy posh french cakes yay!!

Hope my last post had enough typos for you, @Confusedmeanderings !

@Maybeonedayeventually Im so sorry you’re going through that. It’s absolute shite, and after a year of TTC, it’s the shite icing on a shite cake. While I’m glad you won’t need medical management, I’m sure that’s a very small source of comfort in the scheme of things. No one can pretend this is fair, or right, and if anyone says to you that everything happens for a reason, it’s a well known fact that you’re allowed to punch them in the snot locker and you can’t be done for assault. Promise! I mean, sure, I’m not police, but I’ve watched a lot of them on TV, so I’m almost 100% positive about this. I really do hope you get to where you want to be soon; waiting can be an exhausting thing for your spirit.

@Orangesox Im so sorry to hear this as well. I know some of these things, as terrible as they are, might be inevitable in life: the loss of people we love and trying to sort out the aftermath. But to feel like the person who should be supporting you is instead playing the role of a selfish toddler can feel like a real stab in the back. Or perhaps more like having the rug pulled out from under your feet. Now more than ever, you need a safe place to stand, and he’s undermining that. It’s shite of him, and of course it’s selfish. I’ve heard of husband who act like this because they’re jealous of the attention that the children in the household get but I have to be honest that I’ve also heard of some very shitty husbands who act up because they feel they’re not getting enough attention because they’re competing with grief. It’s amazing how selfish some other people can be. With that said, only you know if he has form, and this is your wake up call to get mad and tell him to pull his thumb out and either support you or start looking at rental adverts OR if this is relatively new, and it’s all still salvageable. Either way, I really do hope you find the support that you need with all you’re going through, if not from your husband, then from friends, or other family, or you know, some random vipers on an insomnia thread, har har.

@IdiotCreatures Oooooooh. Enjoy your posh French cakes!

Mmm ... French cakes, yum!!! I'm about to have dinner - slow cooked belly pork, apple slices, toasties and veg. And not cooked by me!!

Welcome to another night on the insomnia thread. If you’re awake, you’re in the right place.

If you can’t sleep due to pain, illness, worry, grief, work problems, family issues, or anything else, then this is the opportunity for you to share so you can let it all out and get some support, and maybe even sleep.

Ah! Hope this means that most people were able to get some sleep last night, and maybe some of us had fancy French cake hangovers (looking at you @IdiotCreatures har har).

Had a bit of a lie-in myself today since I’m not feeling too well, so I’m only getting up now.

@5YearsLeft is it Ill illness or just feeling rough illness, either way that sucks!!

Had such a good night's sleep, sad I had to get up for work but at least nowadays I can be fairly safe in the knowledge that a good night will be had after a bad night and if I get two bad nights then I break out the Zopiclone...
Just can be a pita getting the GP to prescribe them so try not to rely on them heavily.

The French cakes (as they always are) were amazing!!

@IdiotCreatures Re: illness: Enh, it’s just part of the whole thing. See user name, har har. But it does have its scarier moments.

I’m glad to hear thought that you’ve maybe found a system that works for your sleep!

And lovely about the cakes!

I won’t be on tonight as I’m struggling a bit, but hopefully back tomorrow night (Wednesday).

@5YearsLeft sorry to see you're struggling. I hope you get the rest you need.

I'm anticipating a sleepless night tonight because I visited friends this afternoon and was so tired afterwards that I slept all evening!

Only three more days radiotherapy and my hair is beginning to grow! Annoyingly, there are more on my chin than on my head!

I think I'm talking to myself now! Tomorrow's radiotherapy is at 8.25 which is a pain because I'll have to get up early, but also brilliant because I'll be able to go to my art group afterwards. I haven't been able to go for ages - during chemo it was because I felt unwell and then when I felt better my hospital appointments were at the same time. Hope the silence from everyone means you're all sleeping!

@5YearsLeft I was hoping that your user name didn't relate to that kind of circumstance.
They get it wrong sometimes. Drs that is
Not even going to go into the day I have had but hi to anyone who wants to wave and share the midnight hours...

@Confusedmeanderings Sorey you were here on your own last night! I’m so exhausted from feeling poorly that i actually fell asleep sitting up so… ha. Not delightful.

Congrats on the hair growth and being SO, so close to the end of radiotherapy!!! As for there being more hair on your chin, ugh, I don’t even have radio as an excuse so I think maybe it’s just menopause?!? I do hope you made it to your art class!

@IdiotCreatures I’m so sorry you had a terrible night! I do hope tonight is better.

Much much better asleep by nine through until 7amish. Yay!!

Hi it's me again 🙄anyone else awake. Feeling sleepy so hopefully will drift off soon but thought I would wave in case a anyone else was around and wanted to chat...

I'm awake

How's your day been?

Awake feeding my 5 month old DD, Mumsnet keeps me awake during feeds 🥱

The night feeds I was quite lazy when it came to those, we co-slept and I mastered the art of getting a nipple in while still being mostly asleep. But my fibromyalgia is always a bitch after a bad night, so it wasn't purely laziness.

Mmmn anyway my eyes are being heavy so time for sleeping yay!!

I'm working, but happy to chat if anyone needs to :)

@IdiotCreatures Ah sorry, I was awake last night as I’m still struggling but didn’t check MN. I should have done. I’ve been proper sick for well over a week now. I hope your flare passes and you’re able to sleep again!

@purpleme12 Not seen you for ages. Hope you’re all right.

@Bbomb Hope you got some sleep after the feed!

@Patienceisntvirtuous Hope work went well!

@5YearsLeft is it pain? Have they got you on decent pain meds I find amitriptyline really helpful for sleep (most of the time) but it's for nerve pain mostly...

@IdiotCreatures Thank you for the recommendation! I’m about maxed out on painkillers but still experience some pain, but no, it’s not so much that as it’s a mixture of a lot of things caused by my disease unfortunately. I see the head of neurology, so my regular neurology consultant’s boss, Monday afternoon.