For telling my neighbour he should stay home

[queensonia]

My next door neighbours both tested positive for COVID on the weekend. Today I saw the husband getting in his car to go to work. He works for a medium sized public company with a lot of staff. He said he was told that he’s not legally obliged to isolate and that if he felt well enough he should still go into work. I told him he was morally obliged to isolate because he could infect colleagues who may suffer far worse than he is currently and pass it on to their relatives who may also get very ill or die. Is this what everyone is doing now.? In my industry we are pcr tested twice a week and not allowed on site until the test is negative.

@Scbchl

Its literally got absolutely nothing to do with you. The rules are the rules. Keep your nose out of other peoples business.

Jesus fucking christ - what part of "man is knowingly infecting other people with a virus that doesn't affect some people, but disables and/or kills others, randomly" do you not understand?

If you know you are positive and you choose to mingle with other people, either at work or in any other context, then you are an immoral shit who should be known as "typhoid mary" forevermore.

Of course it's the OPs' business. It's all our business.

As long as the sick and elderly die at a steady rate and don't overwhelm the NHS and clog mortuaries it's a win for the government.

I've been told to go to work if I feel well enough even if I've tested positive.

We've decided only to meet FIL only outside from now on, it's seems the those who are vulnerable need to step out of society so all those who want to continue with no masks can.

@ArcheryAnnie oh shut up.

[quote Waxonwaxoff0]@ArcheryAnnie oh shut up.[/quote]
Why? Genuine question - why? What about my posts are so frightening to you?

Its a case of office workers Vs the rest. I'm in care, i lose shifts (so zero pay) for not being able to work. But obviously I'm not going to work with COVID. The same guy will get really pissy if the carer for some relative of his felt the same as him and went to work anyway. Why is it only those of minimum wage can afford to have a conscience?

@ArcheryAnnie they're not frightening at all. You just have no right to call someone an "immoral shit" for just trying to get by in life. If you want empathy, you need to show some to others. Do you understand that many people are literally choosing between heating and eating right now?

If you know you are positive and you choose to mingle with other people, either at work or in any other context, then you are an immoral shit who should be known as "typhoid mary" forevermore.

Some people don't have a choice. I'm not sure why that is so difficult for some people to grasp.

@queensonia

I know most of the people on here are saying they'd be perfectly happy to work with somebody who has Covid (or flu, or whatever) and they are entitled to that viewpoint. But what are the significant number of workers who would have very good reasons to be very, very unhappy about it ?

They say that, but it’s not actually true.

[quote TatianaBis]@queensonia

I know most of the people on here are saying they'd be perfectly happy to work with somebody who has Covid (or flu, or whatever) and they are entitled to that viewpoint. But what are the significant number of workers who would have very good reasons to be very, very unhappy about it ?

They say that, but it’s not actually true.[/quote]
It is true in my case. I'm not scared of Covid and never have been. I did catch Covid at work last year and possibly will again. I don't care.

"Jesus fucking christ - what part of "man is knowingly infecting other people with a virus that doesn't affect some people, but disables and/or kills others, randomly" do you not understand?

If you know you are positive and you choose to mingle with other people, either at work or in any other context, then you are an immoral shit who should be known as "typhoid mary" forevermore.

Of course it's the OPs' business. It's all our business."

But it's not your business.

It's such a simplistic view you have there. It's very rarely as simple as "chose to stay home". The reality is many cannot afford that "choice". All thorough out this people didn't test as they knew they couldn't afford to self isolate.

Employers put pressure on to come into work if not ill.

Employers put pressure on to come into work if not ill.

That's often more the reality.

then you are an immoral shit who should be known as "typhoid mary" forevermore

Chill out 😂

@Waxonwaxoff0 In your case. But not everyone is a gung ho arsehole.

@Broads93 Why don't you just stay in the safety of your home for the rest of your life if you're so petrified. Wet wipe.

For what it's worth, I'm not overly worried about catching Covid myself. I'm triple vaccinated and otherwise in good health so I'm reasonably confident that if I did get it, I would not get seriously ill.

But I know that not everyone is so fortunate.

It's depressing to realise we live in a society where so many people don't give a moment's consideration for the welfare of anyone other than themselves and are outraged that anybody else might.

[quote TatianaBis]@Waxonwaxoff0 In your case. But not everyone is a gung ho arsehole.[/quote]
Just living in the real world. Those on this thread telling others they should stay home even if they can't afford to are also arseholes. Difference is, I'm not pretending to be morally superior while being an arsehole.

Those on this thread telling others they should stay home even if they can't afford to are also arseholes. Difference is, I'm not pretending to be morally superior while being an arsehole

Bang on.

It's depressing to realise we live in a society where so many people don't give a moment's consideration for the welfare of anyone other than themselves

This is hardly an accurate assessment. The last two years have been full of lots of people making lots of sacrifices and considering the impact of their actions. I find the overwhelming majority of people I know and interact with have been anything but selfish.

However well you know your neighbours, you don't know the specifics of the scenario and can't possibly know the conversations that have happened or the plans that have been put in place. And that's why the majority of posters have told you to butt out... You don't know the full picture, and your neighbour doesn't owe you the full picture. Don't assume the worst in people.

If I sat next to someone at work with Covid, of course I’d be concerned I’d catch it but I’d test myself and hope for the best. I’m CEV and severely immunocompromised so I’d want to know early to make sure I can access the anti viral meds. No point running around like a headless chicken and panicking. We are two entire years into this pandemic. We have to start trying to get back to normal.

It's depressing to realise we live in a society where so many people don't give a moment's consideration for the welfare of anyone other than themselves and are outraged that anybody else might.
Absolutely! Imagine not having the consideration that someone may not get enough in SSP to pay their bills, or get food, or then have enough money to get to work next month. Imagine being so self involved you admonish this person for not putting you first, in your WFH job, with full sick pay should you need it...

[quote queensonia]@Broads93 Why don't you just stay in the safety of your home for the rest of your life if you're so petrified. Wet wipe.

For what it's worth, I'm not overly worried about catching Covid myself. I'm triple vaccinated and otherwise in good health so I'm reasonably confident that if I did get it, I would not get seriously ill.

But I know that not everyone is so fortunate.

It's depressing to realise we live in a society where so many people don't give a moment's consideration for the welfare of anyone other than themselves and are outraged that anybody else might.[/quote]
I am likely to get seriously unwell with covid. I’ve spent too many days in a hospital bed including multiple intensive care admissions. I know life is fragile. However, what is fragile to me is my health. Some people live with fragile finances and would suffer serious consequences if they couldn’t go to work. Why can’t you see that too?

[quote queensonia]@Broads93 Why don't you just stay in the safety of your home for the rest of your life if you're so petrified. Wet wipe.

For what it's worth, I'm not overly worried about catching Covid myself. I'm triple vaccinated and otherwise in good health so I'm reasonably confident that if I did get it, I would not get seriously ill.

But I know that not everyone is so fortunate.

It's depressing to realise we live in a society where so many people don't give a moment's consideration for the welfare of anyone other than themselves and are outraged that anybody else might.[/quote]
But why does the 'welfare of anyone other than themselves' only include 'people who might become seriously ill when they get COVID'? Why can't it also include 'people that might end up unable to pay their bills/eat if they can't work'?
How often did you worry about the welfare of these people pre-COVID? Did you stay at home whenever you showed the slightest sign of any sort of illness?

@Gardengate45

Well done OP.

If only we had more neighbours like you.

😂

That's great. Still doesn't change the fact that not everyone can afford to worry about their colleagues or have understanding employers.

Employers shouldn't be given that choice. Having worked in the past for an employer who would phone up people in hospital to harangue them to come in and where you only got SSP if you were off ill, I do understand difficult choices and arsehole employers.

@MichelleScarn

It's depressing to realise we live in a society where so many people don't give a moment's consideration for the welfare of anyone other than themselves and are outraged that anybody else might. Absolutely! Imagine not having the consideration that someone may not get enough in SSP to pay their bills, or get food, or then have enough money to get to work next month. Imagine being so self involved you admonish this person for not putting you first, in your WFH job, with full sick pay should you need it...

I don't work from home so I don't know where you got that idea from. As a freelancer I have no entitlement to any sick pay whatsoever. Long before Covid was even heard of I stayed off work with Norovirus because it seemed obvious that it would be irresponsible of me to make 100 other people sick just so I could pick up a day's pay.

@Giveaschitt How often did you worry about the welfare of these people pre-COVID? Did you stay at home whenever you showed the slightest sign of any sort of illness?

As a freelancer I have no entitlement to any sick pay whatsoever. Long before Covid was even heard of I stayed off work with Norovirus because it seemed obvious that it would be completely irresponsible of me to make 100 other people sick just so I could pick up a day's pay. But hey, you do you.