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To be annoyed at parents saying our baby is 'in charge' of us

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cirillaofcintra · 22/03/2022 15:17

Is this just a generational thing or are DH and I really meek/pushover parents. Both my mum and PIL have recently separately said our 6mo is 'in charge' and 'rules the house'. My mum said to the baby (with me well within earshot) "you're not in charge, mummy is. Mummy's the one who needs to be in charge". She hasn't said anything to my face. Whereas PIL outright said "How can something so tiny totally rule the household".

I'd say we are on the attachment parenting side but not totally. We have recently sleep trained to get DD in her big cot. But we make heavy use of the sling round the house as DD doesn't like to be put down. We carry her a lot as she doesn't like sitting in laps. We co slept from 3m - 6m as it was the best way to maximise sleep for everyone, it then stopped working so well recently hence the move to her own room. She is generally a fussy/high needs baby so taking her round to their houses involves a lot of carrying, entertaining, jiggling etc. and inevitable fussiness. I am doing some BLW as well as cooking all her food from scratch, my MIL often expresses incredulity/amazement at this. Finally I breastfed until 6m so would often need to take baby out the room multiple times during visits for feeds as she was a noisy/fussy feeder. She fed little and often. Cue surprise at how often she needed feeds, 'she can't be hungry she only just fed'.

I feel we have just been responsive and focused on meeting DD's needs in a gentle loving way, but now I am doubting myself a bit and wondering if we should have been putting her down more, letting her fuss a bit more in order to get used to it. She still hates being left alone when I need the loo and screams being put down for naps etc, have we made her this way? It's the separate comments from both sides... clearly we come off as pushovers.

OP posts:
user1471538283 · 22/03/2022 21:54

She is your baby and you are raising her the best way you know how.

Some people think babies can be spoilt but they cannot. Babies need nurturing and security. I raised my DS like that because I had none if it from my own DM.

Your family needs to be told to not criticise.

woodhill · 22/03/2022 22:04

For me as a dgm I feel sorry for my dd and protective of her and I think she sometimes makes things more difficult than they have to be with dgd who is now a bit older itms

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 22/03/2022 22:09

An ex friend of mine once told me her dd was in her own room at a week old. The night they came home. Dc was left to cio as her dh believed she would be spoilt otherwise...
That dc is in no way an average dc...
I am quite a hard bitch but that broke me tbh.

Kite22 · 22/03/2022 22:10

I think it probably does mean that 'the baby rules the house', pretty much by definition. But isn't that actually the whole point of that type of parenting, doing what the baby seems to prefer and responding to what they're indicating that they want from you?

This ^

It is a statement of fact.
It is a different style of parenting from what any of the grandparents did, but it is the one you have chosen, and - if you are both happy with it, then it is working for you and totally your decision.

I think YABU to us up energy being annoyed. Every decision you make as a parent will be a decision that is different from the decision some person you come into contact with has made........
breast feed / bottle feed / mixed feed
dummy / no dummy
sling and carry all day / leave to settle elsewhere
go back to work / SAHP
how long you do all the choices for
cloth nappies vs disposable
co-sleep or not
etc
etc
etc
Just practice a few statements about "all making our own choices" / "being happy with the choices we've made" type phrases and change subject.
You'll use a lot of energy over the years if you get annoyed at each comment about your parenting choices.

woodhill · 22/03/2022 22:11

@Easterbunnyiswindowshopping

An ex friend of mine once told me her dd was in her own room at a week old. The night they came home. Dc was left to cio as her dh believed she would be spoilt otherwise... That dc is in no way an average dc... I am quite a hard bitch but that broke me tbh.
That was how my own dgm was with my mum, it was just the norm to leave babies to cry (1940s) and dm had a similar attitude to some extent
godmum56 · 22/03/2022 22:16

@JudgeJ
"But why do so many babies seem to have personalities that demand being constantly hauled about, they didn't used to?"

how long ago is "used to?" My 30+YO godchild was one of those babies who couldn't be put down. Their older sib was the worlds most laid back infant EVER

Thatswhyimacat · 22/03/2022 22:20

Does your Mum actually think speaking to your 6 month old about who is in charge is going to sort her out Grin

nildesparandum · 22/03/2022 22:36

I am a mother, grandmother and great grandmother.
Every generation has different ways on baby care.My two were born in the early 70s when we told to only feed 4 hourly, start solids at 4 months get them potty trained by 18 months don let them rule you etc.
I remember my mother making comments like ''Why is he still in nappies at 12 months?'', my MIL wanting to know why I was not giving them mince and potatoes at 3 months etc. We were also told to get them outside in the fresh air as much as possible even in cold weather.Put them in the pram well wrapped up while you get on with your housework.
Because of this I never interfered or criticised with the childcare of my grandchildren and great grandchildren although I felt like it sometimes.
I think I was a PFB mother though when my first baby was born, then his brother arrived and he taught me everything about babies, more than the experts!

Guineapigssweak · 22/03/2022 22:38

By the third child your have no issue putting the baby down and getting on with other things lol I hated my first baby crying but with second and third child I couldn't carry them and feed them constantly. My third I simply put him in his cot at nap times and shut the door and he was the best sleeper in the end for doing this. You learn by your mistakes and become more confident.

Nomoreusernames1244 · 22/03/2022 22:44

My third I simply put him in his cot at nap times and shut the door and he was the best sleeper in the end for doing this. You learn by your mistakes and become more confident

Not doing that is not a “mistake”. I never did it with any of mine. My choice, not a mistake.

Nomoreusernames1244 · 22/03/2022 22:53

"But why do so many babies seem to have personalities that demand being constantly hauled about, they didn't used to?"

Babies haven’t changed, parenting has.

If you had a baby that wanted to be “constantly hauled about” you just didn’t. You put them in the pram at the bottom of the garden or in their room and let them cry until the clock said it was time for their next bottle.

This is the “expert” advice given out to my mums generation. Medicalisation, measurement, were parenting fashion. Breastfeeding was unhygienic compared to sterilised bottles, breast milk inferior to the known “scientific” composition and amount of formula. Babies were on a strict 4 hourly schedule, and if it wasn’t time to feed or nappy change you ignored them to “teach” them to be independent.

My mum still talks about sitting on the stairs listening to me cry for hours but not being allowed to see to me. You followed the current best practice because you thought that’s what was best for your baby.

Remember no internet, no other sources of information to fact check. Only what dr’s and books told you.

Apatosaurus20 · 22/03/2022 23:11

No you’re not meek/pushover. I have a 5mo baby and very similar. IMO I have this precious time off work to look after my baby and therefore I will 100% put him first and do anything to meet his needs whilst I have this time with him. I think parenting is very different to when we were younger re responding to baby etc. Keep doing it your way!

ChickinMarango · 22/03/2022 23:19

I don’t think attachment parenting was as popular with the older generations. They see the amount of effort we put into parenting and think it’s unnecessary as it wasn’t needed in their day.

My firstborn had all her daytime sleeps as contact naps unless we were in the car or pram, until she was a year old. It was amazing and I’ll always cherish those snuggles. But she was in her own room from 5 months, a dream to put to bed even when she went into a proper bed at 2.

Every child is different, just carry on doing what you’re comfortable with Smile

silkypillows · 22/03/2022 23:20

I had a ridiculously high needs baby. Who is now a ridiculously high needs toddler. Practised attachment parenting/gentle parenting from the beginning. Nothing else would have worked due to his personality type. I know him better than anyone in the world.

I've had all these comments and more. And suggestions to break his spirits. I'm not ok with them and I know that what I'm doing is right for him and will stand him in good stead in the long run. They're just so little for such a short period of time. Do what feels right for you and baby.

Appolonia · 22/03/2022 23:28

It's the baby's personality.

I've toddler twins. One of them is incredibly needy, and has been since he was born. Cries to be held, always wants to sit in my knee to read a book, wants me down on the floor playing beside him. He goes berserk if I say I just need 2 minutes to tidy the kitchen/put stuff in the dishwasher, etc.
In contrast, his twin is very self-sufficient. She'll happily play with a puzzle, tractor, doll, while I do housework around her.

Superhanz · 23/03/2022 04:35

Babies/toddlers are clever little things, they pick up on our weaknesses and use them with expert precision. Hmm

Give over!!!

OP you sound like you're doing a fantastic job and you are NOT being manipulated by a 6 month old. You know your baby best and your in laws or parents aren't experts!

UsernameInTheTown · 23/03/2022 05:11

I unknowinly did all the gentle parenting shizzle. I have the most amazing, wonderful 8 year old daughter, who no longer clings, sleeps in my bed etc. My family all thought I was daft Grin but I'm having the last laugh now! Ignore and crack on Smile.

Selttan · 23/03/2022 05:37

If you'd baby is healthy and happy it doesn't matter whether you're parents agree with how you are 'parenting', it needs to work for you and your baby not them.

My cats rule the roost in my house and I don't give a hoot what others think.

CatsandDogs22 · 23/03/2022 05:41

@Guineapigssweak

By the third child your have no issue putting the baby down and getting on with other things lol I hated my first baby crying but with second and third child I couldn't carry them and feed them constantly. My third I simply put him in his cot at nap times and shut the door and he was the best sleeper in the end for doing this. You learn by your mistakes and become more confident.
Don’t be so condescending. Just because you did it does not mean it is the right way for everyone.

I never did this with any of my 3. This hasn’t stopped them from becoming good sleepers.

My mum also never did it with me - I’m the 3rd too - and I also sleep.

Timeturnerplease · 23/03/2022 06:10

My eldest was like this. MIL used to make comments about DD1 being the boss, but very gently and in a jokey way - she readily admitted that things were very different ‘in my day’.

Fast forward to when she and FIL looked after DD1 four days a week in term time for us…DD1 was and still is 100% the boss of that house and we are much firmer with her than her grandparents are!

I think sometimes it’s just how older generations were brought up to think, and they can’t shake the habit even if they’d like to.

If it helps, DD2 is SO much more chilled (though the crappest sleeper that ever existed) so you just have to parent different babies according to their needs.

Cakesnbiscuit · 23/03/2022 06:22

A baby can not manipulate at such a young age. They learn if their care giver is coming or not but they don’t have the complex thinking pattern to manipulate yet. I think it’s sadder to think a baby can learn not to cry as there’s no point as no one is coming.

Sounds very typical imo, the older generation had a different way and the comments always get given. Weaning, breastfeeding, car seats etc we had all these comments of my parents and it did upset me but I’ve slowly learned to ignore them. It does hurt as it feels like they criticism even though they don’t mean it. Stick to your guns and your gut feeling. You sound like your doing an amazing job

SleeplessInEngland · 23/03/2022 06:29

At newborn that sleeps badly is functionally in charge of you, no question.

collieresponder88 · 23/03/2022 06:47

I think with the first baby you definitely do pander more to their needs. Using a sling is a bit over the top in my opinion I liked mine to be able to lay under their gym for a little while so I could do a few bits or sit in their Rocky chair and I wouldn't mind if they cried for a while I got on with what I was doing. Parenting is a lot different now. Life does seem to revolve around children whereas years ago babies had to fit in with the parents. They were put in the pram after a feed and left In the garden till the next feed. Equally I'm sure they all turn out just fine In the end. Probably if you have another and another you may not be so attentive lol. They do have to learn to get on with it a bit as you have others to see to that are running about Just do what feels right to you there's no right or wrong. Grandparents will think the baby is in charge because it's so different to how they did it but it's not really their business.

3WildOnes · 23/03/2022 06:55

@Guineapigssweak I have three. Never left any of mine to cry. I did put them down to sleep and would let them fuss but never left any of the time cry. I parented my first the same as my third. My husband is one of four, his mum never left any of them to cry either.

Loopytiles · 23/03/2022 06:58

Unsolicited opinions and ‘advice’ are annoying!

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