Harry suing the home office

[TooEarlyForMe]

Does he realise where the money they would have to pay him if he was successful in suing, would come from?

The British public

Thanks Harry.

His public persona & popularity are products of a well oiled machine to provide him with purpose & make him palatable to the masses.

Surely this was also true when he was a Royal?

@thebellsesmereldathebells

Zara Tindall isn't ever going to be the King's son. She's much less of a target than he is.

As I said, I've no time for any of them, they're an utterly odious family - and I agree with the point that it's unacceptable in a modern democracy (which we aren't but should be) for anyone to be born into a role and given no choice about their future.

She's the Queen's GC just like Harry as are their other cousins.

Harry shows they do have a choice as his great uncle did, they can walk away.

Harry is now irrelevant.

You'd better let Netflix know they have lost £££££

The Queen has four children and as far as I'm aware only Charles gets the top security all the time. The other siblings it was whilst on duty etc. William and his family get it also as directly in line. Harry is now as important as Andrew, Anne, and Edward. The line of succession has moved away from him to George, Charlotte, and Louis.
Hard for him to swallow I imagine when you become surplus to requirement...but that's how it works and they all know that.

He wanted to be a celebrity, not a member of the BRF.

Do celebs get Government funding for security? Do they hell.

He really really needs to STFU.

‘ But he's also been targeted by right wing groups as he's a "race traitor"

As have many public figures who are political leaders & of high political value. The generalised threat is not managed by deploying specialist armed forces for every recipient of threat. I assume that Harry has submitted every incidence of threat for assessment by the UK police & security detail so a comprehensive plan is in place.

Right wing hate groups : assessed risk, outlying threats & particularly more at risk in the US than in the UK. So not a smart move to sit out in plain view at a restaurant in Calif.

‘ You'd better let Netflix know they have lost £££££’

Somehow, I think they know that…

The cancelled subscriptions, Oprah debacle & open mockery on US social media might help calibrate their expectations.

@UniversalAunt I was specifically replying to the point that said he was targeted whilst on military service. I'm not commenting on whether other people are targeted or whether and of those threads are credible or not.

It's just wrong to say he was only a target whilst on service because that's untrue.

personal opinions & feelings do not have to get in the way of facts.

Somehow, I think they know that…

more fool them for paying it. I don't see how anyone could be worth that much but I'd certainly take it if offered.

@prettyteapotsplease

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this he can't spend the rest of his life suing people right, left and centre whenever he's unhappy about something, or is this going to be his main income stream?

Looking far back in time I wonder how the Duke and Duchess of Windsor managed security.

I agree, he should just get on with his life. He would get less attention from nutcases if he kept out of the public eye for a few years, but he doesn’t seem to want to. 🤷

@cherrycokr

They are leeches feeding off the British taxpayers and quite frankly I would be happy if they just stayed put in the USA.

Surely all the Royal Family are leeches then?

There’s a key difference:

The Royal Family generate enormous wealth for the U.K. (in addition to their soft power influence) that dwarfs their cost to the taxpayer.

Harry is no longer part of generating any wealth to the U.K. therefore any cost he incurs means a deficit.

From a business standpoint he’s now a liability.

I thought he was going to live a private life (which would have been totally understandable), but it’s been anything but. What’s been strange is although he’s had an entitled existence it never really showed through in his character, until now. It can’t just be a coincidence that it’s occurred at precisely the same time he’s been with a woman whose home land produced the “I want to speak to the manager” Karen (there’s been many different names for them over the past two centuries). He also seems to be suing people left and right, again not a coincidence I posit with a wife whose home land has a sue culture.

He has no choice about the life he will lead.
That is exploitation.

How would you feel if your child was told at birth their only option was to be priest. Or a cleaner?

It isnt fair and it isnt acceptable in a modern society.

Indoctrination of a child would be illegal in another context
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50879901*

No one is telling him he still has to be anything though.
Everyone has a family and some sort of legacy. Putins daughters, kids of Mafia bosses and famous pop star children all have risks from famous parents. It’s unreasonable to expect Jo public to fund the fall out of the super rich and notorious.
Where does it end? Him, his, his kids?

From a business standpoint he’s now a liability.

Prince Andrew has been for years, how much wealth did he generate for the country?

This thread has inspired me to go into work tomorrow, and quit my job. But it's okay, because I'm going to tell them I still want to be paid the same as ever, and to retain staff perks and privileges. What could go wrong?

I'll go the media after, and tell all about what bastards they are, but they won't mind. If anybody disagrees with me, I'll just say "do you know who I am?!" If that doesn't work, I'll make them feel sorry for me, and if that doesn't work, I'll take them to court. Simple.

I wish

I wonder wtf is actually going on in Harry's head? Paranoia would make sense, though I agree it's odd he feels safer in the US than in the UK, and even odder if he was so paranoid, he would give up all his former protection/want to flee the gilded cage/be so in the public eye instead of fading into obscurity.

What’s been strange is although he’s had an entitled existence it never really showed through in his character, until now.

I presume the royal PR machine kept that in check. I'm not sure how you can grow up with that privilege & wealth & not be entitled!

I think he should have stayed in the UK and become a farmer or kept on as a solidier or some other worthy cause. Anyway he made his choice.

@cherrycokr

From a business standpoint he’s now a liability.

Prince Andrew has been for years, how much wealth did he generate for the country?

Oh he’s now firmly a liability (previously he was a major asset in regard to getting business deals).

When I say Royal Family i am only speaking of maybe a half dozen individuals, it’s those who are a gold mine for the U.K.. The others are clingers on and offer zip. Harry now falls into the latter category.

George has been born into a life that in other contexts might be called modern slavery.

what complete and utter tosh and piffle. How can you write something like that with a straight face.
George, as are ANY OF THEM, will be able to piss off into the sunset if he wants. Any time he likes. I wish they all would.

Modern slavery? give your head a wobble

I would feel more willing to pay towards his security if he stopped making himself a target - aka go live that quiet private life he and meghan wanted.

Also it isn't that he won't be funded it is reviewed on an event by event case. If a creditable threat was made towards Harry and his family exile in the UK he would have security.

Also apparently he only offered to pay after it became public that he wanted UK police protection. A complete PR move

@KellsBells77

"Harry is no longer part of generating any wealth to the U.K. therefore any cost he incurs means a deficit."
They sell newspapers/get clicks etc. If they do come to the UK people will turn up just to see them, that fills hotel rooms and sells out train ticket.

@lightisnotwhite, George started to have private audiences with the Queen last year. He is being instructed on how to be a King, already. There's a hell of a lot FOG within that upbringing. Look at the emotive language used just on this thread "abandoned his country". It takes a lot to break out of that.

Can anyone explain why they think that they didn't offer to pay for security? It is in the statement made by Harry's legal team that since 2020 he offered to pay and started negotiations.

"He has always been spoiled , dim, petulant" and tone deaf.

Like the time he wore the nazi costume. Was also photographed roaming a hotel or such naked?

I'd almost forgotten about those incidents. I wonder what else he did, that was hushed up (especially in light of the revelations about Andrew).

@SoItWas they stated in January 2020 that as 'Internationally protected people' they were entitled to protection where ever in the world they were.
It came out publicly that they wanted UK police protection and only after kick back/negative media did they go 'ohhh we will pay for it' not that UK police protection is something available to hire. It if offered on a needs/threat basis.