Harry suing the home office

[TooEarlyForMe]

Does he realise where the money they would have to pay him if he was successful in suing, would come from?

The British public

Thanks Harry.

Just stop giving him air time

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this he can't spend the rest of his life suing people right, left and centre whenever he's unhappy about something, or is this going to be his main income stream?

Looking far back in time I wonder how the Duke and Duchess of Windsor managed security.

@TheHoptimist

He wants protecting- you cant but the protection he needs in the UK.

He was born into a society base don a monarchy where his life was at risk from the moment her was born (relatives of his were killed in IRA bombings)

He is a victim. Just look at the images of the Queen, Charles, William and George. George has been born into a life that in other contexts might be called modern slavery. He has no choice in how he will live his adult life, like his father and grandfather.

Harry opted out of that life but he is still a massive terrorism target, and even more so at the moment. He didn't choose to be born and he didn't choose to be put at constant risk by his parents and grandparents.

Exactly.

[quote EmpressCixi]@Pixiedust1234
When I said foreign vip I was referring to pop stars and actors, and those with lots and lots of money who feel really important, not present leaders of foreign countries who actually use their own secret service and protection squads during state visits rolls eyes

That wasn’t clear from your post and really Prince Harry isn’t a pop star or actor. He’s not comparable to them as he’s a foreign dignitary like the King of Jordan or the Queen of Sweden- not an entertainment celebrity. Furthermore, pop stars and actors do actually travel with their own security that they pay for and don’t come on state visits.

Present leaders of foreign countries we DO in fact pay for security during their state visits, even though they also bring along their own secret service as well. You are mistaken about that so no need to roll your eyes. Trumps visit cost the British taxpayer £18m in security costs. Presumably Putins state visit in 2003 cost us about the same....

Apparently you aren’t even aware of this but seem to think the British taxpayer should foot the bill for foreign dignitaries...[/quote]
State visits bring about other financial, political, diplomatic and trade perks, so what we spend on extra security is paid back in other areas, not always quantifiable at the time. I rolled my eyes as most people know this as its reported time and time again when royal state visits (or royal family civil list) are mentioned. It gets boring repeating the same old crap.

Princ Harry isnt a foreign dignitary...

Harry and Meghan should be exiled to an island, like Napoleon.

He is covered if he's undertaking Royal Duties. I understand that what he wants is access to security details that relate to him and are held by the police/intelligent services. I understand that, but then presumably divulging information also involves time and money. He would be automatically protected if he stayed with The Queen, Charles or William. I bet that he doesn't have access to the information held by the FBI. And I find it surprising that he feels safer in The States with all their guns or in The Netherlands which he is visiting next month. He's just having a tantrum and trying to make a point.

That Daily Mail article shared on the first page contradicts itself a number of times. It leads with the headline that Harry didn't offer to fund security, then later on, it says he did but the offer was 'notably not advanced' in June 2021. Then even further down says he offered during the Sandringham summit in January 2020.

The Home Office themselves seem to say he did offer to pay but that it's irrelevant because the facility isn't there for someone to privately pay for security.

It seems fairly bloody clear that he has offered to pay.

Hang on....your first paragraph says he is a foreign dignitary and yet your last paragraph questions why we should foot the bill for foreign dignitaries....

If he stays with Dad when he’s over here, then he’s covered by that security detail.

If he’s hanging out with Grandma at her house, he’s covered by her security detail.

What Harry is looking for is a forever diplomatic pass to have the same level of specialised armed security as the Queen (& the official line of succession), working royals on the job & visiting heads of state whenever he comes to this country for personal or his own business.

Because the specialist security is categorised as diplomatic & reciprocal, he gets the same level of security in other countries.

All at his convenience for him & his business ventures, & all at UK or the host nation’s taxpayer expense.

The court case has been rumbling along for some time. Harry was advised about security arrangements should he step back from working royal duties & he signed on the line.

He could take up his father’s kind offer of digs for his stay over, but it might be a bit tricky to film for his Netflix & other content commitments.

"I imagine she means perks = top police security costing millions of pounds each year, the cachet of being a royal prince, and shitty bits is having to open sewage works in Bogner and community halls in Cheshire."

That's exactly what I meant, though I imagine it was being under the thumb of "The Firm" that got to be the biggest issue? All those rules etc. And I agree I'd take a bit of ribbon cutting over what I do, any day.

Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie etc are not working royals, nor are they in the direct line of succession, so no specialist armed protection for them.

That's exactly what I meant, though I imagine it was being under the thumb of "The Firm" that got to be the biggest issue?

I would hate this tbf

That Daily Mail article shared on the first page contradicts itself a number of times.

That's standard for a DM article

@Daenerys77

Of course he has a choice. He (and his wife) could have plastic surgery, change their names and move to somewhere quiet and out of the public eye where they could live comfortably on the money he inherited from his mother.

That's a nice idea!

Whilst I wish them no ill, I'm certainly sick of hearing about them but they will never retire in to the shadows,they don't want to.

The UK specialist armed units for the Royals are not available for hire.

Exactly, he wants the tax payers to fund his personal outgoings for his Netflix project, UK may not be that dangerous when most of the European royalty are attending the PP memorial, he just wants free protection around the world

I wish the whole bloody lot would just disappear from public view.

Harry is not a ‘massive terrorist target’, he has no political value.

When he was on active service he was carefully shielded because he had some political value, & to kidnap or kill him would have been a propaganda coup for our enemies. But he is categorically no longer on military service, no affiliations with the military & no longer has that political value.

He is not a victim.
Other than Daddy cut him off when he was down to his last millions down the back of the sofa. He is not a victim at all.

Wants to have his cake and eat it, can’t have it all ways. Chose this when he married that woman out of Suits.

When he was on active service he was carefully shielded because he had some political value, & to kidnap or kill him would have been a propaganda coup for our enemies. But he is categorically no longer on military service, no affiliations with the military & no longer has that political value.

But he's also been targeted by right wing groups as he's a "race traitor"

He want to be considered an international protected person so that wherever he travels he will have security provided for him. He has more in mind than just visits to this country.

@gamerchick

He needs all the money he can get. It is getting tiresum this constant suing.

Absolutely this

@UniversalAunt

Zara, Beatrice, Eugenie etc are not working royals, nor are they in the direct line of succession, so no specialist armed protection for them.

Nor is Harry. Direct line of succession is now William and George.