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Harry suing the home office

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TooEarlyForMe · 18/03/2022 15:11

Does he realise where the money they would have to pay him if he was successful in suing, would come from?

The British public

Thanks Harry.

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Supersimkin2 · 18/03/2022 16:41

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JuteWeaver · 18/03/2022 16:42

@TheHoptimist

And didnt he offer to pay?
No, he didn't. That was a little fib put out by his PR team to make him look less grabby when news of the lawsuit emerged.
SoItWas · 18/03/2022 16:42

People in the UK have committed suicide, for financial reasons, people are struggling to choose between heat for their families or food for themselves. None of them asked to be born either! So no, I don't feel sorry for Harry at all, he still has a cushy life, and his children will never want for anything (except access to UK state/military intel and protection. ..).

"The problem with Harry is that he had been so spoiled and protected all his life, that he is used to having no consequences for his behaviour and so now feels badly treated. But he wanted to live in the real world..."

^This

cherrycokr · 18/03/2022 16:43

Thanks to Meghan he has not been able to disappear.

Not sure why it's Meghan fault but why should he have to disappear? How else is he going to fund his lifestyle?

wordler · 18/03/2022 16:43

@cherrycokr

Beatrice and Eugenie had their protection taken away in their early 20s when they were 5th and 6th in line to the throne as it was deemed there wasn't sufficient security risk to justify it.

No they still have private security, who do you think is funding it?

They had their specialist royal protection officers taken away. Andrew* is supposed to be funding anything they have. They rarely have any security with them in all the pap shots though so I don't think they have it all the time.

*which I'm sure means the Queen is funding it.

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SickAndTiredAgain · 18/03/2022 16:44

@speakout

What efforts has he taken to reduce his public profile?

Appearing so publically on US TV?

Thanks to Meghan he has not been able to disappear.

I would suggest that he has been the one resonsible for his own heightened public image.

Look at other senior royals- when did you last hear a peep about Edward, or Anne. THey are happy to be forgotten by the media.
Not Harry.

Thanks to Meghan he has not been able to disappear.

I don’t see why you’ve decided that it’s all her fault they aren’t living a private life with no publicity at all.

speakout · 18/03/2022 16:45

Not sure why it's Meghan fault but why should he have to disappear? How else is he going to fund his lifestyle?

He could get a job.

ForTheLoveOfSleep · 18/03/2022 16:45

@cherrycokr

Thanks to Meghan he has not been able to disappear.

Not sure why it's Meghan fault but why should he have to disappear? How else is he going to fund his lifestyle?

By suing the Home Office apparently
Nightlystroll · 18/03/2022 16:45

@TheHoptimist
Prince George! The comment wasn't about Harry

But your comment was about this...
Harry opted out of that life but he is still a massive terrorism target, and even more so at the moment. He didn't choose to be born and he didn't choose to be put at constant risk by his parents and grandparents.
And that is about Harry, not George.

WouldBeGood · 18/03/2022 16:45

I can’t actually believe this.

Just when I thought I could not despise the royals more.

Ffs

cherrycokr · 18/03/2022 16:46

"The problem with Harry is that he had been so spoiled and protected all his life, that he is used to having no consequences for his behaviour and so now feels badly treated. But he wanted to live in the real world..."

Why do people feel they "own" the Royals? It's so weird! Why is what Harry done so much worse than what Andrew has done? So what if he's spoilt & protected, most Royals are. People are so angry at him but I don't understand why.

Pixiedust1234 · 18/03/2022 16:46

@EmpressCixi

If his offer of payment had been accepted it would open the floodgates for all VIPs, foreign and domestic, to have the right to "buy" our police protection squads. Yea, no thank you.

Didn’t we pay for Justin Trudeau’s security recently? And Trump when he visited? In my opinion it would be better to provide the security but for the VIP or their tax payers to fund it instead of us.

When I said foreign vip I was referring to pop stars and actors, and those with lots and lots of money who feel really important, not present leaders of foreign countries who actually use their own secret service and protection squads during state visits rolls eyes
Pyewhacket · 18/03/2022 16:46

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cherrycokr · 18/03/2022 16:47

He could get a job.

He has one, he's a celebrity. I mean I'm not sure Prince William works any harder 🤷🏻‍♀️

cherrycokr · 18/03/2022 16:48

Doesn't he realise that the vasty majority of the people in this country simply don't care anymore.

They do though since these threads fill up & the Daily Mail always has stories about them. I'm surprised Meghan hasn't been blamed for the war tbh!

cherrycokr · 18/03/2022 16:49

I don’t see why you’ve decided that it’s all her fault they aren’t living a private life with no publicity at all.

misogyny & racism

neverthenot · 18/03/2022 16:49

@Peaseblossum22

Nobody is saying he can’t have any protection just that the police will decide if the threat level and act accordingly , as they do for every high profile individual . After all Salmam Rushdie had police protection for years and I have a friend whose father was the subject of a credible threat and he had protection for several years . Just that he doesn’t get to decide and also the police won’t share ingii or Rangoon with private security and he can’t pay for the police and choose the shots that way.

Of course he would be protected if he came here , can you imagine the outcry if something happened to them .

That's not comparable. The STATE put Harry in a position where he is at risk, so the state should pay for it.

I suppose a more analogous position would be if someone were to give evidence in a court case which put them at risk, and they were given witness protection and a new identity and life all state funded as the STATE was asking them to put themselves at risk, so the state pays for it.

OMG12 · 18/03/2022 16:49

If he had just moved to America, all of them lived a quiet life instead of constantly being in everybody’s face stirring up front page news, changed his name most people would have forgotten them, slipped in and out of the country probably unnoticed.

Nightlystroll · 18/03/2022 16:50

@speakout

Not sure why it's Meghan fault but why should he have to disappear? How else is he going to fund his lifestyle?

He could get a job.

But he has a job. It consists of telling everyone of how awful his life has been and portraying himself as an awful victim of privilege.
wordler · 18/03/2022 16:50

@Supersimkin2

Harry had to leave the Army in Afghanistan cos someone grassed his location so while he was still there his unit was in danger.

Security is not always just about the target - ask Dodi Fayed and Trevor Rees Jones. Or the murdered Mountbatten grandchildren.

Harry might be a dick but he’s right. He can’t help being a target, private person or not, and he might as well get the best protection there is. We should supply and pay for it.

We should supply and pay for it.

But should other countries also have to pay for his security? He's chosen to live in the USA - he's chooses to fly around the world on vacations etc. Do those countries have to pay for his security too?

If he's deemed an IPP by the UK then they will have to pay for our pampered prince.

The UK government has already said that they will judge his UK trips on a case-by-case basis and IF there is a significant security risk then he will get royal protection officers. So he's covered as far as the UK goes.

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neverthenot · 18/03/2022 16:51

@Alexandria12

There are numerous women in the UK right now who have left violent partners, have had threats made against then and are in justifiable fear for their lives. Very few of them (with the odd exception like Princess Haya) are in the position of being able to pay for security.

None of them asked to be put in this situation. Where is the 24 hour armed police protection for them?

(OMG, I quoted the wrong PP in my previous post. I was meaning to reply to this one. Here it is again!)

That is not comparable. The STATE put Harry in a position where he is at risk, so the state should pay for it.

I suppose a more analogous position would be if someone were to give evidence in a court case which put them at risk, and they were given witness protection and a new identity and life all state funded as the STATE was asking them to put themselves at risk, so the state pays for it.

SoItWas · 18/03/2022 16:51

"People are so angry at him but I don't understand why."

Because he wants to have his cake and eat it too? He seems to want to keep all the perks, but opt out of the shitty bits.

cherrycokr · 18/03/2022 16:51

@wordler & we all know how convoluted the royal finances are. I mean Andrew lived a billionaires lifestyle but wasn't paid that.

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