Harry suing the home office

[TooEarlyForMe]

Does he realise where the money they would have to pay him if he was successful in suing, would come from?

The British public

Thanks Harry.

Wasn't it more that Hazza wanted his US security detail to have access to the intelligence/counter terrorism info from the Met?

that was my understanding

When he's here with Charles he would get protection anyway.

Today H and M have announced they have given donations to charities.

I fail to feel that sorry for someone that is born into it. Its all luck of the draw, some children are born to addicitcted parents and never get the choice to choose a different lifestyle. He has no idea about reality, he doesn't know how lucky he is.

@TheHoptomist

If that is your theory, that he needs protection because of birth etc, etc, can you explain to me why Princess Anne, her children, Edward, Sophie and their children don't have police protection unless they are on official engagements?

Which is why the British tax payers shouldn't fund his security. Especially when he is far better off than most of us

That argument should apply to all of them then.

How any father or grandmother could risk the life of their child and his children is appalling. Harry has always been just the spare in the royal family and clearly this shows. I don’t blame him for leaving the toxic family and the racist press who hounded his wife. Or the stalker Morgan who doesn’t like women to say no to him.

@SamphiretheStickerist

Quotes like this

"'failing to afford the necessary measure of respect' to Home Secretary Priti Patel and Ravec."

😆😆

That argument should apply to all of them then.

I agree, he's still a Royal & if we funded Prince Andrew all these years why not Harry?

@cherrycokr

That argument should apply to all of them then.

I agree, he's still a Royal & if we funded Prince Andrew all these years why not Harry?

Is Prince Andrew still getting protection? His daughters don't, do they? Wasn't that part of his argument when Harry wanted it?

These are questions Harry & Megs should have considered before making their seemingly hasty poorly planned exit from the RF.

If Harry returns to this country, and while he is with other members of the RF, he will receive the same high level of protection as them. It is the times when he is out and about pursuing his own projects that he is demanding UK funded protection for.

It seems to me that he should pay for this himself, or ask his Granny or Dad to pay for it. He must pay for his own protection at all his high profile appearances in the US, where with their lax gun laws he must be at more risk than in the UK. So he should do so here also.

I don't think that he realised all the implications and results of his decision to leave The Firm, for instance at first he hoped to still do foreign tours, and to keep his honorary military appointments.

So no doubt the way he has been stripped of privileges that he had been entitled to all his life, has come as a shock to him.

But he made his choice, and now must live by it, and pay his own way, with private self funded security.

girlmom21

“He knew what he was walking away from when he stepped back from the RF.”.

I’m not convinced he did know or, at least , understand. In the beginning they didn’t want to walk away , they wanted the half in , half out option but when that was ( rightly) refused H threw a tantrum and left . It was pretty clear from his comments to OW that he thought he would retain his security and funding from his father.

He could have quietly exited the RF, become a private citizen as was his choice, still enjoying a very privileged lifestyle with the millions he got from his family (oh but it’s not enough) and everyone would have forgotten about him and his wife by now.

Instead by doing interviews, writing books whining about what a tough life he’s had rubbishing a respected institution around the world (and selling himself to Netflix), he’s kept himself in the public eye and made himself a hate figure to rabid royalists. He needs his connection to the RF to keep the millions coming in but doesn’t want to be part of it or do any work for it. Something he should have thought of before he flounced.

He should be treated the same as any other ‘celebrity’ and sort out his own security.

@Laiste

Don't be fooled with these 'I dont feel safe in the Uk' lies. He's trying to use our government with these lies to acquire IPP Status, hence never to have to pay for security anywhere in the world, saving him millions per year. It's another underhanded manoeuvre...

Just read this online.
Is this true? What's IPP status?

IPP status is International Protected Person status. That means they are entitled to state protection in whatever country they are in rather than having to sort it out themselves.

What issue is he specifically suing over?

Is it the decision not to give security?
Not allowing him to pay for it?
Not giving his security the intelligence he says they need?

A combination of these?

He isn't suing the Home Office (unless he's launched yet another case and I blinked and missed it)

He has applied for a judicial review of how RAVEC makes decisions on close personal protection.

Im not sure if his application has been granted. Anyone know?

So will have millions more done so today for Red Nose Day and many others to Ukraine supporting charities over the last few weeks. Perhaps we should all make announcement.

I can understand the perspective of someone who is a potential terrorist target, born into the role rather than choosing it, whose mother was killed on a route away from photographers.

The answer is to disband the monarchy: then no-one has to endure this nonsense and we don't have to pay for it either.

@SickAndTiredAgain

What issue is he specifically suing over?

Is it the decision not to give security?
Not allowing him to pay for it?
Not giving his security the intelligence he says they need?

A combination of these?

The decision not to give him security.

He only offered to pay for it after it came out in the press. He tried to have it kept out of the public domain but the court rejected his application for an injunction.

His security wouldn't need the intelligence he says they need. If there was intelligence to say there was a serious / viable threat to him then the MET would step in and protect him.

@girlmom21

According to the Guardian

"As a senior royal, he has round-the-clock Scotland Yard protection. Security costs are never discussed by Buckingham Palace or the Metropolitan police. But it has been reportedly estimated that the annual cost to the taxpayer of guarding Andrew could be up to £2m."

His daughters don't, do they?

They did have tax paying security at a 500k a yr cost. now it's privately funded...

Get rid of them all once Queenie dies, they do nothing for us. Before you start talking about Charles charity etc, do you not think others would step in to fill the need?

Info on internationallly protected people

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Diplomats_Convention

As he no longer represents the Monarch (having quit RF duties) he no longer automatically qualifies

@TheHoptimist

He wants protecting- you cant but the protection he needs in the UK.

He was born into a society base don a monarchy where his life was at risk from the moment her was born (relatives of his were killed in IRA bombings)

He is a victim. Just look at the images of the Queen, Charles, William and George. George has been born into a life that in other contexts might be called modern slavery. He has no choice in how he will live his adult life, like his father and grandfather.

Harry opted out of that life but he is still a massive terrorism target, and even more so at the moment. He didn't choose to be born and he didn't choose to be put at constant risk by his parents and grandparents.

He has security in the US and I'm sure he could afford to buy similar security in the UK. If he were to attend the functions associated with his Grandmother's Platinum Jubilee he would be receiving the same protection as other members of the Royal Family. Who will be protecting him in the Netherlands a months after his 'dear' Grandfather's memorial service which he ahs decided not to attend. They, Harry and his wife, need to realise that life isn't a pick and mix as it suits the needs of their latest/next 'expose' (can't do acents!).

I can understand the perspective of someone who is a potential terrorist target, born into the role rather than choosing it, whose mother was killed on a route away from photographers.

Absolutely, of course he has anxiety & paranoia. Who wouldn't!

The answer is to disband the monarchy: then no-one has to endure this nonsense and we don't have to pay for it either.

Absolutely, it's ridiculous

Isn’t this about him wanting access to intelligence, which his private security guards won’t have, rather than wanting police protection per se?