Harry suing the home office

[TooEarlyForMe]

Does he realise where the money they would have to pay him if he was successful in suing, would come from?

The British public

Thanks Harry.

@HRTQueen

Now we are playing down the paparazzi involvement in Diana’s death

How low shall we go …

This also. Disgraceful. Yes, Diana wasn't wearing a seatbelt but it's also doubtful that her driver would ordinarily drive a couple on date away from a venue at such a 'wreckless' manner if they weren't being pursued by paparazzi.

@Migrainesbythedozen, you may wish to look at MN guidelines. I have said nothing even remotely racist and you have absolutely no basis to make that accusation. I won’t hold my breath waiting for an apology but you certainly owe me one.

@thebellsesmereldathebells

I've got not time for him - for any of them - but in this, I think he has a valid point.

He didn't have a choice about being born into a high-profile family who are undeniable targets for terrorism etc. He has made a choice to reduce his involvement with the "work" of that family, but he doesnt have a choice to take the target off his back (and the same applies to his wife and children).

If something terrible did happen to him and his family because the British State decided to prove a point by not giving him protection, MN would be full of people bleating about whose fault it was.

The protection he is entitled to when he enters the U.K. is based on a counter terrorism assessment by the Home Office (the home office is run terribly btw so not sticking up for them) so not sure why he thinks he knows better.

If he wants to pay for British counter terror police to protect him I say fine, but pay for additional officers to be hired and trained.

It’s all very well saying ‘how would we all feel if something happened to him’ but what about how parents and friends would feel if we had another Manchester Arena because already run down services are being used on a celebrity who contributes very little to public life?!

[quote GirlsTalk250]@pleasehelpwi3

Given the nonsense spouted in your post, it’s hard to imagine anyone less capable of a ‘sensible conversation’![/quote]
If you can't formulate a decent facts based response, resort to name calling.....

But he is not short of money! He chose to leave this country.

@Blossomtoes As a black woman, putting aside how deeply and utterly offensive your minimising what Meghan went through - thus I myself deserve an apology from you, let alone Meghan - when you minimise the affect of racist abuse, you are, in affect, legitimising racism. I owe you no apology, however the fact you cannot see just how hurtful and offensive your 'so what?' belittling is, I won't wait for the apology you owe me as that would suggest a self awareness on your part.

I also think that the pandemic was a bad time for him to complain and now the war in Ukraine is also a bad time to complain. He does understand the mood of the nation in the same way Diana did or his Grandmother does. Also, Diana genuinely empathised with ordinary people whereas Harry finds the British public a mild inconvenience at best.

*doesn't

@iklboo

Harry opted out of that life but he is still a massive terrorism target, and even more so at the moment. He didn't choose to be born and he didn't choose to be put at constant risk by his parents and grandparents.

Which is why the British tax payers shouldn't fund his security. Especially when he is far better off than most of us.

I agree with this. He gave up his royal duties and wants independance from them. He can’t expect taxpayers money to fund him now.

I like Harry and think he needs to be able to visit the uk and have the security he needs if and when he wants to visit, did he not offer to pay for it. They are protecting Andrew and does he have armed security?? Just because he decided to live a different life away from the uk does not mean he should not be able to visit. Once the queen passes away the royal family should be gone as outdated now and so much scandal and even Andrew protected which is sick.

@berlinbabylon

He didn't have a choice about being born into a high-profile family who are undeniable targets for terrorism etc. He has made a choice to reduce his involvement with the "work" of that family, but he doesnt have a choice to take the target off his back (and the same applies to his wife and children

I agree with you to an extent, but does Zara Tindall have paid-for protection. And if not, why not? And if not, why does Harry need it?

Because the bunch of racists who are obsessed with him and his wife’s every move might pose a danger to them. The level of preoccupation with the Sussexes is utterly terrifying.

And he has offered to pay for the protection.

@Tilltheend99

I also think that the pandemic was a bad time for him to complain and now the war in Ukraine is also a bad time to complain. He does understand the mood of the nation in the same way Diana did or his Grandmother does. Also, Diana genuinely empathised with ordinary people whereas Harry finds the British public a mild inconvenience at best.

That's part of the problem though, no time would be a good time for him to complain. Perhaps everyone should not complain no matter how valid their complaint is, because 'the pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the starving in Ethiopia, etc etc'. Harry put this complaint in place before the war happened. Bottom line is we can't silence someone because it's 'not the right time'. It never will be the 'right time'.

Has he explained why he doesn't feel unsafe in any of the other countries he's visited? He's being very foolish and badly advised.

It wouldn't be fair if they were saying he had no access to security. But that isn't the case. He has his private security and can stay with Charles and benefit from Charles' security on official business.

This is a non-problem that seems to serve three purposes - keep Harry in the media; try to gain a pay-out; give him an excuse for not visiting or filming his family presumably because they've introduced some stricter rules about communicating with him in light of the Oprah interview, his and M's books, etc

LuaDipa Because the bunch of racists who are obsessed with him and his wife’s every move might pose a danger to them. The level of preoccupation with the Sussexes is utterly terrifying.

Yes, Meghan and their own son Archie has had death threats. Meghan has had rape threats. People on here don't seem to appreciate how serious the situation is. They cannot empathise.

Criticism, and even hostility towards, people you find extremely irritating and obnoxious is not racism.
I have no sympathy with people who continuously court media attention and then feel the media are 'hostile' towards them.

Meghan was treated awful by the press the same way that Diana was and Harry did not want that for his family. The racist remarks within the royal family. Also that well known hateful person who calls himself a journalist who has made it a personal vendetta again Megan. Any wonder they wanted to leave the uk as Diana was hounded and now Megan and Harry. But maybe all of that was to try to deflect away from the paedophile in their family. Also wasn't Jimmy Saville friends with some in the royal family.

The thing that everyone has forgotten is that in their original statement when they said they were standing down as senior working royals was that they wanted a very specific half in half out royal life.

We know this because they published a big detailed website explaining exactly what they wanted.

• split time between North America and the UK
• earn their own money doing commercial projects
• spend part of the year doing Royal work supporting the Queen
• give up the five percent of their income which came from the Sovereign grant

They made it very clear that they wanted to keep the other 95 % of their funding which came from Charles - which was about 2 million a year. They expected to continue being IPPs which would mean security provided for them wherever they were. They wanted to keep the SussexRoyal branding - which we found out later that they had already applied for a trademark on Sussex Royal in the June of 2019.

We also know now - because Harry told us in the Oprah interview that Charles had asked him at the end of 2019 to put together a full proposal of how the Sussex exit would work so that they could discuss all the details before it was publically announced. Instead of doing that they just went ahead and published the website.

Obviously Charles wanted them to sit down and discuss all these details with experts such as the home office to work out stuff like funding, security, etc etc

They also never really said they wanted privacy or a quiet life. They said they wanted the freedom to choose their own media pool and not have to use the established royal rota.

Now they are mad because the Queen said they couldn't keep the Sussex Royal branding for commercial projects and could not be both working royals and take on commercial projects, the Home Office assessed that they didn't qualify for RPPs anymore, and Charles decided that if they were no longer doing the role of the working royals then they would not need to get the 2 million he was giving them from the Duchy of Cornwall money.

I honestly think that if they hadn't trashed the family in the Oprah interview, and the Omid Scobie book that eventually Charles would have started giving them some money privately again - and they would have been able to come and take part in family events and get almost what they wanted to begin with but I can't see that happening now.

@DrDinosaur

Criticism, and even hostility towards, people you find extremely irritating and obnoxious is not racism. I have no sympathy with people who continuously court media attention and then feel the media are 'hostile' towards them.

Please don't tell us what racism is and don't invalidate it. When the criticism and hostility is out of racism, as it so clearly is with Meghan, then it is racism.

I take it all the posters invested in painting multi-millionaires as victims and trying to justify them suing for money from the British public purse - missed the study that said a lot of the negative social media coverage of Meghan was generated by bots linked to conspiracy theories and Russia ... not to the UK.

Which is ironic considering Harry and Meghan originally fled the UK to a house linked to a Russian oligarch. Or perhaps that isn't a coincidence at all.

@ wordler

Excellent post.

Harry decided he didn’t want to be a senior royal, so why should he benefit from the Royal Protection Squad? He’s happy to kick the Royal Family down and complain how horrible they have been to him and Meghan, but then still expects to waltz in and demand special treatment! The Royal Protection Squad aren’t available for hire, to just anyone, they are there to protect senior royals. He doesn’t want to be a senior royal, he doesn’t get treated like a senior royal!

He would be safe if he came to his grandfather’s memorial service, as long as he stuck with the other members of the Royal Family, who are receiving protection. It would only be a risk if he (and whoever comes with him) want to go off and do things alone!

No doubt this will be another awful thing for him to cry about in his memoirs. I’m sick of hearing about how awful he and Meghan have been treated and just wish that they would crawl under the nearest rock and stay there!