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This is just shocking (trigger warning -racism)

659 replies

iloverock · 15/03/2022 18:19

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/department-for-education-metropolitan-police-services-scotland-yard-hackney-b988292.html

Please read the formal review.

Essentially the teaching staff called the police because a black 15 year old girl smelt of cannabis. She was taken to a room and strip searched. She was on her period. Her mother wasn't notified. She was not given the opportunity for an appropriate adult to be present.

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Comefromaway · 16/03/2022 14:16

[quote Maggiethecat]@purpleboy - think the MP is Diane Abbot[/quote]
We don’t know which part of Hackney the school is in. It could be Diane Abbot who is MP for Hackney North, or Meg Hillier who is Hackney South.

Comefromaway · 16/03/2022 14:21

Child Q was doing exceptionally well at school, top of the class and getting praised every day for her good work and good conduct. She was even the prefect of her year at one stage. She was progressing well, a happy go lucky child, well loved, and cared for. Then for whatever reason, cracks crept in and she appeared to be singled out by the teachers repeatedly for various things.”

Time and time again I read on mumsnet posts where parents are complaining about unfair treatment of their child by teachers and others jump on them saying the child MUST be at fault.

Those who have children who are different in some way, whether black, other global majority, neurodiverse etc sadly KNOW that children are being treated like this on a daily basis but no one believes us.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 16/03/2022 14:28

Someone at the school hated Q. It is clear.

They did this on the day of an exam. That is something you would only do to a pupil for the scent of weed if you wanted them to do badly.

purpleboy · 16/03/2022 14:29

@RedWingBoots

Sorry *@purpleboy* Ms Abbott MP is aware and in my post above I put a link to a Guardian article.
Thank you. I'm going to email her anyway, the more voices she hears the better.
IDidntFloatUpTheLaganInABubble · 16/03/2022 14:29

Diane Abbott has tweeted about this, maybe if those with Twitter respond to her she can raise this with someone... i dont know who, the commissioner, the mayor, someone. I'm so bloody angry about this I feel the need to do something.

If it was the academy group my DC were at I'd be taking direct action and removing them from school.

Ncwinc · 16/03/2022 14:35

It’s not going to help this girl but the management and staff at every senior school in the U.K. should be talking about this case. They should be looking at how to protect the children in their care and their policies for interacting with the police.

I find it astonishing that the teaching staff and management at a London school behaved in this way. They’ve not only allowed this child to be assaulted, they’ve also broken the trust of parents and students. How will any child at that school or other schools in the U.K. feel now about disclosing something to a teacher?

ComDummings · 16/03/2022 14:38

Every adult involved in this assault needs to be in prison

DetailMouse · 16/03/2022 14:40

@Ncwinc

It’s not going to help this girl but the management and staff at every senior school in the U.K. should be talking about this case. They should be looking at how to protect the children in their care and their policies for interacting with the police.

I find it astonishing that the teaching staff and management at a London school behaved in this way. They’ve not only allowed this child to be assaulted, they’ve also broken the trust of parents and students. How will any child at that school or other schools in the U.K. feel now about disclosing something to a teacher?

I expect the vast majority are thinking it couldn't possibly happen here. There's no way the head, teachers, pastoral staff or even the office staff would have allowed that where I work.

We call the police quite often (that kind of school/area). When they come, which is by no means a certainty, they are never left with a child without another adult. It just wouldn't happen.

SamphiretheStickerist · 16/03/2022 14:41

@RichPetunia

Seems extreme. Where’s the evidence this happened?
READ.THE.THREAD

It's a fucking review, a legal review

chscp.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Child-Q-PUBLISHED-14-March-22.pdf

FFS!

JamieNorthlife · 16/03/2022 14:49

Some news :

Met officers under investigation over strip search of girl at London school

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/16/met-officers-under-investigation-over-strip-search-of-girl-at-london-school

Maggiethecat · 16/03/2022 14:54

@SamphiretheStickerist

A review that almost never happened!

This was the Safeguarding Practice Review Panel's suggestion in 2021:

'We noted your decision to carry out a local child safeguarding practice review (LCSPR) but would encourage you to think carefully about whether one is necessary as we felt that this case was not notifiable and did not meet the criteria for an LCSPR.’

Any surprise that @RichPetunia is keen to dismiss the abuse of this child?!

Ncwinc · 16/03/2022 14:57

’We call the police quite often (that kind of school/area). When they come, which is by no means a certainty, they are never left with a child without another adult. It just wouldn't happen.’

That’s exactly how I would expect a school to behave. I just can’t understand how they could have left her alone with the police.

LotusCheesecake · 16/03/2022 15:00

Dianne Abbott doesn't say that this happened in her constituency, does she. Which makes me wonder whether Meg Hillier may be person to write to.

Comefromaway · 16/03/2022 15:08

I’d just like to urge caution that trying to identify the school increases the risk of identifying the child. Much as we are all appalled and would like to know I would not like things to be made even worse for that poor girl.

purpleboy · 16/03/2022 15:13

[quote JamieNorthlife]Some news :

Met officers under investigation over strip search of girl at London school

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/16/met-officers-under-investigation-over-strip-search-of-girl-at-london-school[/quote]
This is encouraging, but I think we need to make noise so the police know they can't sweep this under the rug. With bullshit about lessons learnt Angry

JamieNorthlife · 16/03/2022 15:20

The story was not really well covered and its almost disappearing from the news.

Diane Abbott did write an article
Police strip-searched a 15-year-old black girl at school. When will these abuses end?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/16/police-strip-search-black-girl-school-east-london-racism-misogyny

ChimbarasiKotapaxi · 16/03/2022 15:22

How was this allowed to happen? How was it that an appropriate adult was not called in?

DetailMouse · 16/03/2022 15:23

Are police allowed to strip search children? I mean is there ever a situation when this might have been correct, even with an appropriate adult?

Empressofthemundane · 16/03/2022 15:26

Horrendous.

The met protocols need to be reviewed and updated, so this doesn’t happen again.

The victim needs psychological counselling.

emuloc · 16/03/2022 15:32

I agree @Purpleboy, we should still be logging a complaint with the Met as a poster upthread did. The more complaints they receive, the better. They have to see the level of outrage this has caused.

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/03/2022 15:35

The met protocols need to be reviewed and updated, so this doesn’t happen again.

For this not to happen again, the Met need to weed out all their revolting, disgusting, racist, misogynist, abusive officers, sack them and strip them of their pensions and charge them with Racially Motivated sexual assault.

Stockpot · 16/03/2022 15:38

Yes, but it will be easier to prosecute them if there are clear protocols we can show they are breaking. It’s a tool to be able to move forward without anyone being able to claim they didn’t know, they were following the rules, etc.

carefullycourageous · 16/03/2022 15:44

I do not think it is about protocols, it is about organisational culture.

RedWingBoots · 16/03/2022 15:44

@DetailMouse

Are police allowed to strip search children? I mean is there ever a situation when this might have been correct, even with an appropriate adult?
Only for class A drugs, weapons or if the child is a danger to themselves.

The strip search shouldn't have happened in the school. It should be in a medical facility or a police station.

Simonjt · 16/03/2022 15:47

It is sadly highlights why parents of none white children can’t teach their children to approach a police officer if they need help.

Black women and girls are always at the absolute bottom of the pile.

So the MET have raped and murdered a white woman, they posed and took photos with dead black women, they’re now sexually assaulting black children. Genuinely are there any laws they won’t break?

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