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AIBU?

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Grannie feeling a little left out.

427 replies

Hall35 · 14/03/2022 21:07

My first GC was born 7 months ago I have a wonderful relationship with both the parents. Initially I was welcomed round had lots of cuddles allowed to feed them etc.
Then something changed and I'm at a loss as to what....I'm now not allowed to hold GC I go round a few times a wk (when it suits parents I don't just turn up!) and at first they clung to their parents but now they get smiley when i go in and reach for me only to have M distract them or move them. They also invite me round at naps times or times when I cant even ask for a cuddle. Gc sleeps at other GM often and they do lots of nice things together (I'd kill for a 10 minute walk round the block ha) I'm not demanding or judgemental with them and havent brought this up as dont want to cause tension but its breaking me.
I brought up my children well and have good relationships with them but baffled as to why I'm being excluded. At first I thought M was just overprotective as all is new mums have been (I was a nightmare ha) but everyone can hold my GC friends family etc just not me.
I have a lot of experience with children due to a huge family and have always been the go to person to have peoples children so I know I am trusted in this respect. OH thinks it's so GC bonds with other GP first and more. If that makes sense? AIBU?? Really struggling without having it out and causing arguments. Do I just keep doing as I'm doing and hopefully all will come good?

OP posts:
alltheapples · 15/03/2022 10:52

Honestly is it surprising some parents end up having little to do with their grandchildren when the parents are so difficult?

PleaseBeSeated · 15/03/2022 10:54

@UniversalAunt

‘ I'd give my kids to the childcatcher if I thought I could get a cup of tea in peace. ’

Brew 😀

If anyone’s in north London, and San Daniele del Friuli in Highbury is still open, the staff once or twice took five-month-old DS off to the kitchen to eat tiramisu and play with knives to let me eat my pasta in peace. I loved them as I have never loved anyone other than the anaesthetist who did my epidural.
2022HereWeCome · 15/03/2022 11:02

I used to get annoyed with MIL because she never asked about me and she used to say things that made me annoyed when doing baby chat with DS - stupid stuff like 'oh you love granny cuddles, I bet they are better than mummy cuddles, aren't you a proper little boy, why isn't mummy letting you do x' - it wasn't advice but it was undermining nevertheless. I would ask her not to do things eg - please don't give DS your key ring play with, it's not suitable. She wouldn't say anything but her expression said it all and I knew she would be moaning about me to her friends at the first opportunity.

So have a think to see if you could've done something inadvertently and then have a chat with DIL - say you are worried you've done or said something inappropriate or upsetting and you'd like to fix it.

WetLookKnitwear · 15/03/2022 11:05

Also I often take my baby back from someone when she’s crying, because I make the assumption (rightly or wrongly) that it’s best for me to take her back. I wouldn’t actually be offended if my DM or DMIL said “do you mind if I see if I can settle her?” But to THEM it probably looks like I’m anxious and won’t want to be challenged. They never ask but I honestly wouldn’t mind!

Unless there’s something weird you’re not telling us that they’re afraid of you doing then I think it’s ok to ask. It might not go as badly as you think!

alltheapples · 15/03/2022 11:13

@2022HereWeCome what is wrong with a key ring?

Joystir59 · 15/03/2022 11:15

She feels more comfortable with her own parents, that's what this is. Unfortunately a mil you aren't as close to Dil

Stroppypeople · 15/03/2022 11:16

@PleaseBeSeated…same here .Daughter took our grandchild to see a Dr at GOSH just before pandemic .She was so hungry,went to a cafe in Covent Garden and a lovely Spanish waiter took baby off her so she could eat fry up in peace ! She said it was the most enjoyable meal she had had since giving birth !!

worriedatthistime · 15/03/2022 11:19

@Joystir59 i hate this attitude it is still her grandchild , I really hope my sons treat me with more respect

PleaseBeSeated · 15/03/2022 11:21

[quote Stroppypeople]@PleaseBeSeated…same here .Daughter took our grandchild to see a Dr at GOSH just before pandemic .She was so hungry,went to a cafe in Covent Garden and a lovely Spanish waiter took baby off her so she could eat fry up in peace ! She said it was the most enjoyable meal she had had since giving birth !![/quote]
Those people deserve a special place in heaven/nirvana/Valhalla/your choice of afterlife. I think I actually cried into my penne from gratitude. (I didn’t have any family around to help, DH was working away, and it was really tough.)

MrsMiaWallacePF · 15/03/2022 11:24

They're being weird and unkind. Ask them

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 15/03/2022 11:26

Sorry but I think you're being disingenuous here, making out like you're the long suffering grandparent with no idea why you're being sidelined by your overprotective DIL. But you know full well what the issue is because you say yourself that they've told you what they expect to change. You've also said that both parents are in agreement over this, so no DIL being overprotective at all.

This post of yours gives us a glimpse of what's really going on:

Took gc straight off me before I had chance to settle them

You don't express it as passing the baby back to their mother, but as the baby being taken away from you. A subtle but very important distinction. It's also interesting that you mention not having had the chance to settle them. Why would that even cross your mind for a baby that isn't yours? Because you're the 'go to' baby expert in the family?

So yeah, I think you know full well what the problem is, you just don't want to accept it.

worriedatthistime · 15/03/2022 11:27

@Stroppypeople i agree
I have sons and so hope I'm not treated like this by their partners and it seems almost sexist on here that mum gets all the say on what happens to a baby , last time I looked a father has equal parental rights
I wAs always happy for my mil to be involved , she chose not to and i see that as her loss as her lack of interest in dc has damaged my dh relationship with her

worriedatthistime · 15/03/2022 11:30

@BringBackCoffeeCreams talk about twist what has been said she hasn't blamed dil at all and you have taken the context of settling to fit your narrative , Op answered a question as wether baby criss when held and she doesn't give back and she explained once baby cried and they took them straight back
I am assuming you are a troll

worriedatthistime · 15/03/2022 11:30

@BringBackCoffeeCreams and also where did Op say they told her what to change , your just making things up so you can be nasty without actually reading

escapingthecity · 15/03/2022 11:33

Tbh I dread visitors who just want to cuddle the baby - feels a bit like they're taking the baby away from me. The most useful visitors are the ones who will happily sweep the kitchen/bring us food/do the ironing and not have any expectation of cuddles.

diddl · 15/03/2022 11:33

"I do wonder if it is your DS who is pushing you to visit and not your DIL. t seems odd that your invited but then baby is either asleep or your not allowed to hold them."

I find that odd also.

I mean Op's son might as well just pop to her!

It's hard to know really what has happened.

Nanny0gg · 15/03/2022 11:33

i really don't understand some of the dynamics on here unless the GM is genuinely awful

I would visit my DC with their babies and they'd give me the baby to hold (and often change !) I didn't have to ask. Or if the baby was fretting in their cot I'd ask if they wanted me to get them and the answer was generally 'Yes'. I didn't feed the bottle fed ones to start with as the parents wanted that bonding with them - fair enough. Was very proud when finally allowed to.
But there was none of this 'Keep Away' attitude. Obviously if the parent wanted to take them I'd hand them straight over, but I was trusted to cuddle, change and soothe with none of this, to me, strange attitude. And my GM friends have been exactly the same. It's only on MN that I've come across this Stay Away message

WeDontShutUpAboutBruno · 15/03/2022 11:34

I actually agree with @BringBackCoffeeCreams

My own mother, who I'm now NC with, would paint such a picture, leave out all the things she did and be all wide eyed and innocent wondering why I withold her grandkids from her.

There's no way that they said things would change and op agreed without any sort of discussion as to why.

bitemyarsenic · 15/03/2022 11:37

@Nanny0gg

i really don't understand some of the dynamics on here unless the GM is genuinely awful

I would visit my DC with their babies and they'd give me the baby to hold (and often change !) I didn't have to ask. Or if the baby was fretting in their cot I'd ask if they wanted me to get them and the answer was generally 'Yes'. I didn't feed the bottle fed ones to start with as the parents wanted that bonding with them - fair enough. Was very proud when finally allowed to.
But there was none of this 'Keep Away' attitude. Obviously if the parent wanted to take them I'd hand them straight over, but I was trusted to cuddle, change and soothe with none of this, to me, strange attitude. And my GM friends have been exactly the same. It's only on MN that I've come across this Stay Away message

Not really what the point of this post is? Ok you havent experienced this situation but many have. Its like saying on the cost of living threads. " Im fine, Ive got plenty of money" Pointless Confused
bitemyarsenic · 15/03/2022 11:39

I should add my own MIL was lovely, we had a great relationship.
It doesnt stop me understanding that its not the same for others.

Blossomtoes · 15/03/2022 11:40

Oh @MRex, my eyes are a bit moist after reading your post. That’s S beautiful.

Blossomtoes · 15/03/2022 11:40

So beautiful even!

basbousa · 15/03/2022 11:41

I feel like my MIL could have written this post- she would say she is excellent with children when in reality she’s actually very ott and it creates a stressful environment for everyone - i had PND and found her very hard to manage.

She used to be a teacher and so would say she was excellent with children but in actual fact she just is very overbearing - i really don’t like having her around that much because she riles the children up a lot (case in point when i came back from hospital with my second after a c section and was desperately trying to get a latch for bfeeding and she began to blare one song i hate on repeat whilst chasing my toddler around the room, knocking into me, climbing over me and just generally being incredibly over the top and every time i asked her to stop she would tell me that everything was in good fun and then a lecture on how my daughter needed attention too). i can accept that she wants a relationship with my children but it always felt very dismissive of anyone else’s feelings because she knew better.

She also fixated on my parents and would constantly ask questions like ‘do your parents like your children more than your siblings because you’re their daughter/do you think your children like them better than me’etc etc etc and would keep tabs on visits so that it felt so uncomfortable when she came round because she was trying to catch you out as to how much time had been spent with who…

She would always try and question/correct our
parenting, she felt we were very young when we had them (late 20s so no) and my husband would try to appease her by inviting her round. if she held the baby would always manage to wonder off into another room but it would always be for a reason e.g to look out the window so even if it wasn’t done maliciously it often felt it was.

My in laws are strange and the relationship
my husband has with them used to be incredibly codependent- i’m not saying this situation is anyway similar to yours but my husband would often feel stuck between how it made me feel and the responsibility he obviously felt to them- he’d invite them round not expecting to be taken up on it everytime and then be surprised when they did.

Personally i’d just talk to your son and ask him if everything’s ok, express how you feel (without focussing on how it all massively impacts you- remember there are other people involved and ultimately it’s not your child) and give them an opportunity to explain and if they do explain, listen and take it on board without arguing or trying to justify anything.

Blossomtoes · 15/03/2022 11:49

Same here @Nanny0gg. My bloke’s grandson was put in my arms before I had the chance to take my coat off the first time we visited. The second baby arrived just before lockdown at the end of 2020 and exactly the same thing happened again. We didn’t see that baby again for five months so that hour of holding her was huge.

Songoftheseas · 15/03/2022 11:50

You sound wonderful! I would sell a kidney to have grandparents close to and involved with DD. DH’s parents died years ago and mine live abroad, plus have health issues. I really hope you can resolve this situation soon 💐