House guest sneakily adding your wifi to their phone is rude yes?

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I mean, I don't mind any guest accessing my wifi BUT at least ask right?

The card with the WiFi password is on our coffee table and the bedside table in the spare room.

I think it's well sneaky to just grab someone's router and enter the code without asking.

I think it's rude to not offer a guest the code for the WiFi.

What is the problem? How did they get the password?

@sparepantsandtoothbrush I didn't compare it to the Ukraine situation. I told her to not volunteer to host a refugee family

When you say house guest do you mean overnight?
I would expect an overnight guest to help themselves to the WiFi code, coffee, the shower etc.

Yup - this, hence 'sneakily'. Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation

Perhaps you aren't as exciting to talk to as you think you are?

Sorry realised they got it from the router, not sure why you're policing if grown adults should have their phone or not for the evening. You sound a very reluctant host, are you?

I don't think it's sneaky to get it from the router - I expect they thought they were using their initiative to save you a bit of time. It's not like they had to rifle through your cupboards to find it!

I'd be embarrassed they hadn't felt comfortable to ask me for the password and had 'sneaked'.

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. And I certainly wouldn’t mind if they saw the password as opposed to asking for it.

Look, it's 2022. We all rely on the bloody internet. Using your phone is pretty much as ubiquitous as using the toilet.
Do your guests need permission to pee? Wash? Walk upstairs to the room you've allocated them?
If someone is a guest in your home using the wifi is standard - and as for 'doing without their phone for an evening', you don't know if they are checking on someone vulnerable, updating a work thing, looking at the progress of an order, looking at a disturbance at their front door, you literally don't know what they're doing.

If you go into a cafe the wifi code is displayed usually. In this day and age can it be the same in people's homes please? If you like them enough to host them, just give them the bloody code when you show them where the bathroom is and tell them to feel free to make themselves a drink. FFS.

I think it is rude. You don't go to somebody's house and just help yourself to stuff. You'd ask.

Guest was rude to use the wifi without asking, host was rude not to offer the wifi in the first place (assuming the guest was staying overnight).

Not unless you refused to tell them the password, and they discovered it on a card at the bottom of your knicker drawer.

Why didn’t you offer?

Why are you having people over you don’t like?

I'd feel embarrassed that I'd forgotten to give it to them tbh. OP, you've only responded to the poster who agreed with you yet most of us think you're BU.

YABU for having not changed the details from those that came with the box. If you can't be bothered with that, they can assume you don't care about people using it.

Unless your router is hidden in your knicker drawer, I really don't get the problem? Would you be annoyed if they plugged in their phone to charge without asking as well (and weirdly, that would actually cost you money whereas them using your wifi is unlikely to)

I think it's a bit cheeky based on the OPs update.

There isn't anything else you would just help yourself to in a host's house i.e. you wouldn't go rooting in cupboards to find a glass and stuff to make a drink etc.

Just because the WiFi is free doesn't mean you should go digging around behind the router - in our house it wouldn't help anyway as we changed the password from the default - Just ask!

So you’re annoyed because you didn’t want them to have internet access for some reason?
Is it because they’ve come to visit and are spending all their time on their phone ?
If so I can see why you’re upset , i had a friend visit once and they picked up a book that was on my couch and proceeded to read it while ignoring me , it left me feeling like “well why are you here”
I guess it depends on your relationship with the person and the purpose of their visit

I agree that they should ask.

@AlisonDonut

Don't tell me they also got a cheeky glass of water from the outside tap and craftily absorbed heat from the radiators without permission?

Shocking behaviour.

Unless they are planning on streaming / gaming to an extent that slows the wifi down for everyone else, I really can't see the problem.

If your paying for something think its polite if a guest asks to use it.

@Giveaschitt

Unless your router is hidden in your knicker drawer, I really don't get the problem? Would you be annoyed if they plugged in their phone to charge without asking as well (and weirdly, that would actually cost you money whereas them using your wifi is unlikely to)

I would be annoyed unless they brought their own charger and even then, I'd expect a quick 'do you mind...?'

Treating other people's houses like your own is just weird.