House guest sneakily adding your wifi to their phone is rude yes?

[HDDD]

I mean, I don't mind any guest accessing my wifi BUT at least ask right?

This has got to be one of the stingiest things I've ever read on MN. I'd hate to be the kind of host who made people think they needed permission to use my WiFi.

Anyone who comes to my house is welcome to use my WiFi. In the same way they can use my bathroom, drink my water. I wouldnt expect them to ask. They are also welcome to charge their phone if they've bought a charger.

I always find these threads weird. Who comes round your house that's not a friend or family member?

We have a sign with the login so guests don’t have to ask if you like them enough to enter your home, why is this even an issue? You don’t pay extra per device!

I don't really have house guests so never been an issue but if I liked someone enough to let them stay I can't imagine I would begrudge them WIFI.

It would be hard for them to 'sneakily' add it though as we don't have passwords ect... you need the code that is on the credit card bit that is in the actual hub which is in the middle of the living room to add it to a new device.

I don't think it's rude. I'd be pleased that my guest had seen the router, got the passcode and did it themselves, thus saving me telling them or having to get the code for them.

Some of us have hordes of teenagers coming in day and night asking for the password and charging their phones 😅

However, if your guest chose to spend all evening on their phone rather than talking to you then that's pretty rude.

@Carrotten

Anyone who comes to my house is welcome to use my WiFi. In the same way they can use my bathroom, drink my water. I wouldnt expect them to ask. They are also welcome to charge their phone if they've bought a charger.

I always find these threads weird. Who comes round your house that's not a friend or family member?

work men... pretty much the only people that enter my house bar those who live here.

That said I have let them charge their phone and use the bathroom (thinking about the thread with the cleaner lol), its not really going to affect my life if they do or don't.

Yup - this, hence 'sneakily'. Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

Don't you ever have conversations that might involve streaming a song on Spotify, paying you money back or showing someone an Amazon link for something cool you've seen or bought ? Not everyone has a generous data allowance or strong 4g signal.

If it's open or you have an easily guessable password then you have more issues than your guest 'stealing' your WiFi.
They'd need to be given the password the first time here but subsequent visits I'd have no issues with them using it. Unless they were ignoring me/my family and only here to exclusively use the Internet - that would be rude!

If you don't want people to add your wifi then change the password so they can't.

YABU

Any guest should be given WiFi password on arrival. You sound odd to object to this.

@Billandben444

I'd feel embarrassed that I'd forgotten to give it to them tbh. OP, you've only responded to the poster who agreed with you yet most of us think you're BU.

Yes interesting that isn't it. 🤔 Op you are being totally unreasonable and I'm sure that you know it.

I always ask if I can use the host's wi-fi when I'm staying at someone's house, never just take it.
I'd be a bit shocked if they refused to let me have the password though - it's not like I'm accessing anything dodgy! No one has refused so far, though.

YABU

If I like someone enough to have them stay in my home they’re welcome to use my Wi-Fi, charge their phone etc. and if I was staying at someone else’s house I’d expect the same. My devices connect automatically at my best mates house, am I supposed to ask her each time? That would be ridiculous!

You don’t like your guest very much do you OP?

@babyjellyfish

To be fair, I wouldn't go anywhere without making sure it's appropriately charged anyway. Never had a phone run out of charge while I've been away from home. Ever.

Do you have a Nokia 3210?

Depends how long you stay out and what you use it for when you go out.

Sat Nav, working, nearest petrol station. I can understand if you never leave familiar settings or work in a place where you don’t need a phone but lots of people don’t work or live like that.

I don’t see why it is sneaky adding a WiFi code which is on display behind the router. I think it is good manners as a host to provide it.

Being judgy about people's phone usage doesn't make you sound any more reasonable OP. Phones use data even when you aren't using them anyway.

Maybe the guest has other things going on in their life that they need to keep in touch with, hence needing wifi.

Anyway, you sound controlling and should have offered wifi without them having to take matters into their own hands.

Guests shouldn't even have to ask for something as basic as wifi in 2022.

HDDD
Yup - this, hence 'sneakily'. Maybe I'm aghast that a grown adult can't live for an evening without their phone, and maybe have I don't know, a conversation.

I mean the easy answer is to keep your password away from your router to avoid issues like this in the future. It's a bit like keeping your PIN with your bank card and then complaining when someone spends your money.

Eh? How is this rude 🤣

I don't think it's rude!

They were staying with you. And, it's not like they can use it after they've left.

It's perfectly normal. You might as well complain that they 'sneakily' used the loo without asking.

We had a houseful of guests over the weekend. I'm sure some of them used our wi-fi. They would have walked into the (messy) study, picked up the router and looked on the back for the password. It's not a big deal. They were our guests and I want them to feel at home.

I cannot even start to fathom why you’d take issue with this or expect people not to have access to their phone when in your home. How very odd.

@BlindGirlMcSqueaky

This has got to be one of the stingiest things I've ever read on MN. I'd hate to be the kind of host who made people think they needed permission to use my WiFi.

Haha! Same here. It's akin to being 'aghast' they 'sneaked' a glass of water from the tap.

If I was visiting someone overnight, I'd charge my phone without asking in the same way that I would use a hairdryer without asking.

But if I was popping in for a coffee or whatever, I'd ask first. It feels different.

I don't use other peoples' wifi, I use my data. It's not unlimited, but it is enough to cope with the odd trip out.