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Child Neglect? Relative.

118 replies

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 18:58

My sister have two children; 13 and 11. Both will turn a year older this year. Only a few years ago was I allowed to visit my sister home, when I did I could see why she didn’t ever invite us around. It was trashed; you couldn’t see the floor in the kids room or hers, kitchen was an absolute tip with bags of things on the counter tops. It looks chaotic. The dining room table where I presume the kids did their homework was pack to the rafters with rubbish. I spend days hauling out the trash and organising the entire home into a liveable condition.

My mum used to have them on weekdays a few times a week and each time she would check their lunch boxes and they would both be untouched. They pretty much hadn’t eaten since breakfast and picked at their dinners. We mentioned this to her and she defended their actions.

Fast forward a few years, my mother and I noticed my nephew had lost a considerable amount of weight, he has no muscle tone in his arms, it’s actually skin and bone. Dark circles around his eyes and he hasn’t grown; still wearing the coat I brought him 4 Christmases ago, in addition, he still wears the same size school uniform since he started in year 7 (currently year 8). He avoids meals and becomes upset when it’s time to eat. We mentioned this to her and she said he eats at home, hasn’t taken us seriously. Recently he told her he has an eating disorder and he needs help, she lied and said she made an appointment with the doctor and recently admitted this indeed didn’t happen. He only eats about 2-3 mouthfuls a days and a few sips of water. He’s been experiencing severe anxiety. He has a phobia of food; thinks he’s going to be poisoned / allergic. Growing up she’s told us all he has allergies to certain foods, he actually isn’t any. Her and the dad (before they separated) use to tell him when he starts big school he’s going to have to get a taxi because he might get kidnapped. On top
Of this, they haven’t ever had any friends around it’s always been them. He has been having panic attacks he now avoids car journeys, new experiences, doesn’t like the bus so walks to school every morning (not close by), he had a breakdown yesterday asking why his life has to be this way. He’s very unwell, you can see it. My sister smokes cannabis everyday, she works in a school for a few hours in the afternoon and then goes to her second job 5pm to 11pm, which means the kids are alone that entire time. She doesn’t cook so pops back on her lunch at 9pm to bring their chips. They never have fruits or vegetables. I’ve now become aware of this and have had to start spending time there until 11pm to make sure they’re looked after. My niece said she doesn’t like to be home alone with her brother as she doesn’t know how to help him as he becomes emotional at times and grabs his throat. I have a 5 month old baby so going around there and staying until 11pm
Is difficult and beginning to impact my sons routine.

Im sure I’ve missed a lot of stuff. What should I do?

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HeyGirlHeyBoy · 12/03/2022 19:02

I'm afraid you need to report to social services OP. This is a very distressing situation I'm sure. You know you have to do right by your children and hopefully your sister will be helped also. She clearly needs support also.

bloodywhitecat · 12/03/2022 19:02

You know what you need to do, you need to call social services. I would imagine school must have their concerns too so it would be worth calling them too.

HairyFeline · 12/03/2022 19:02

Sounds like you need to contact social services, OP. I would, even if the mum was my sister. Those kiddies deserve help.

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 19:03

My mother and I have told her that it won’t end well if she doesn’t seek help for her son. He’s scared of everything, even to use the bathroom at home by himself and occasionally climbs into bed with his mum. At the moment the only foods he will eat are micro chips and hash browns. It’s only a matter of time before he goes off them and becomes nill by mouth. Something he expressed he too is afraid of happening.

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HeyGirlHeyBoy · 12/03/2022 19:03

Do right by the children I meant. Yes school might be worth a call also.

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 19:04

Thanks guys. I am going to report her. I’m just afraid I might temporarily exacerbate his eating disorder and he stops eating entirely. Very scary situation.

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CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 19:08

Is it abnormal for the kids to be wearing the same coats 4-5 years later and it still fits exactly the same?

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H4ppyC4mper · 12/03/2022 19:08

You're more understanding as a sister than I would be if these were my niece and nephew. Tell everyone and anyone who is able to step in and do right by these kids then give your sister a reality check. Those poor kids 💔

Featuredcreature · 12/03/2022 19:10

Yes this sounds like a critical situation and they all need urgent support, good for you for actually supporting when you can. Once they get the proper official support they need it will lighten your load. How has school not flagged anything up? Although I suppose all of that is disrupted with the whole pandemic thing.

girlmom21 · 12/03/2022 19:13

Please get those poor children help OP.
There'll be people who can monitor his eating and get him immediate help if he needs it.

Fuckitydoodah · 12/03/2022 19:19

You must report this situation. Your nephew needs professional help and ASAP. It won't end well if there isn't an intervention.

Babadook76 · 12/03/2022 19:23

None of this is normal. You know that. You need to report it.

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 19:25

I asked to have them today, they’re here now. I wanted to bring him to the hospital and he had a panic attack. I want to report to SS. However, I need to know swift support with his eating will be given as I know he will end up nill by mouth otherwise. I have no clue why his school hasn’t noticed anything. Yes, the pandemic but his primary school before that. Why didn’t they realise he and his sister were not eating or even touching their lunches?.

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OutdoorHousePlant · 12/03/2022 19:28

Please call social services. You're understandably worried about his eating but you report he's barely eating and that he and you fear this will get worse. With intervention he will be monitored and if he stops eating will be hospitalised if needed. Whilst that may not be comfortable for him it will be in his best interest. Social care don't act unless needed and this will take time,at this stage you are raising concerns so can have a consultation and they will take it from there. At the very least they will pressure mum into taking him to the gp and/or CAMHS

Ilostit · 12/03/2022 19:28

They will intervene as necessary OP your nephew might need admitting to hospital.

I could not have left it this long if it was my niece and nephew and I can see you’re trying to help. Call the school and SS.

User310 · 12/03/2022 19:30

It’s not just help for the children, it’s help for your sister. They will help her to try and turn her and the children’s life around. They all need help.

Babadook76 · 12/03/2022 19:31

Tbf you don’t know what the school has or hasn’t noticed. Your sister is obviously a liar. She might already be on the radar. Your nephew is only going downhill right now. He needs help op

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 19:35

I’m going to make an urgent referral to CAMHS, I just read up on their website. They have an out front of hours mobile number and also report so SS. I will give the school a ring Monday. My sister is a liar, she lied about finally making an appointment and even fabricated blood tests and things, then admitted when it amounted to nothing. The kids used to talk to me about things and she’s put a stop to this now. It’s a dire situation. He’s not growing and he said his peers are beginning to notice. When I mention things to my sister she disappears and ignore us.

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Fuckitydoodah · 12/03/2022 20:13

Thank goodness they have you OP. I really hope your nephew gets the help he needs. It's going to be a long road.

Xpologog · 12/03/2022 20:28

That poor lad. This has obviously been going on a long time if he’s still wearing clothes from a few years ago.
There will be an emergency number for SS if you don’t want to wait til Monday. I think he might need hospitalisation if he’s not drinking.
It’s lucky they have you to help them.

SafelySoftly · 12/03/2022 20:33

Yes, contact CAMHS and potentially the school as well? You have to step in now with authorities and not stop - they need specialist help urgently. Poor poor kids.

SylviasMotherSaid · 12/03/2022 20:51

I know social worker services in our area have an out of hours service if you have one in your area might be worth calling tonight for advice

sweetbellyhigh · 12/03/2022 21:16

My god this is awful, those poor children.

Do whatever you would if they were your own children.

Even if it means involving police for child neglect/abuse.

It may be what it is needed for your sister to get the support she clearly needs, she sounds very unwell.

NOTANUM · 12/03/2022 21:19

What really comes across is how you and your mum can advocate for these kids by getting them the help they need. Kids will generally need new winter costs every 2 years so not growing at all is a problem. His mental health also seems shot.
Thanks for calling SS and CAMHS. It can’t be easy to do that but it’s the right thing.

HELLITHURT · 12/03/2022 21:37

Oh this is awful, we'll done OP for taking action. Keep those little ones close and safe.