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Child Neglect? Relative.

118 replies

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 18:58

My sister have two children; 13 and 11. Both will turn a year older this year. Only a few years ago was I allowed to visit my sister home, when I did I could see why she didn’t ever invite us around. It was trashed; you couldn’t see the floor in the kids room or hers, kitchen was an absolute tip with bags of things on the counter tops. It looks chaotic. The dining room table where I presume the kids did their homework was pack to the rafters with rubbish. I spend days hauling out the trash and organising the entire home into a liveable condition.

My mum used to have them on weekdays a few times a week and each time she would check their lunch boxes and they would both be untouched. They pretty much hadn’t eaten since breakfast and picked at their dinners. We mentioned this to her and she defended their actions.

Fast forward a few years, my mother and I noticed my nephew had lost a considerable amount of weight, he has no muscle tone in his arms, it’s actually skin and bone. Dark circles around his eyes and he hasn’t grown; still wearing the coat I brought him 4 Christmases ago, in addition, he still wears the same size school uniform since he started in year 7 (currently year 8). He avoids meals and becomes upset when it’s time to eat. We mentioned this to her and she said he eats at home, hasn’t taken us seriously. Recently he told her he has an eating disorder and he needs help, she lied and said she made an appointment with the doctor and recently admitted this indeed didn’t happen. He only eats about 2-3 mouthfuls a days and a few sips of water. He’s been experiencing severe anxiety. He has a phobia of food; thinks he’s going to be poisoned / allergic. Growing up she’s told us all he has allergies to certain foods, he actually isn’t any. Her and the dad (before they separated) use to tell him when he starts big school he’s going to have to get a taxi because he might get kidnapped. On top
Of this, they haven’t ever had any friends around it’s always been them. He has been having panic attacks he now avoids car journeys, new experiences, doesn’t like the bus so walks to school every morning (not close by), he had a breakdown yesterday asking why his life has to be this way. He’s very unwell, you can see it. My sister smokes cannabis everyday, she works in a school for a few hours in the afternoon and then goes to her second job 5pm to 11pm, which means the kids are alone that entire time. She doesn’t cook so pops back on her lunch at 9pm to bring their chips. They never have fruits or vegetables. I’ve now become aware of this and have had to start spending time there until 11pm to make sure they’re looked after. My niece said she doesn’t like to be home alone with her brother as she doesn’t know how to help him as he becomes emotional at times and grabs his throat. I have a 5 month old baby so going around there and staying until 11pm
Is difficult and beginning to impact my sons routine.

Im sure I’ve missed a lot of stuff. What should I do?

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DissidentDaughter · 12/03/2022 22:04

Sounds like your sister has been in crisis for some time, and it’s impacting her kids big time. The situation won’t get better without meaningful/professional intervention ASAP

LottyD32 · 12/03/2022 22:12

I'd keep the kids and let her call the police to get them back 🤨

Meandmyhamsterheadagain · 12/03/2022 22:19

There should be some kind of MASH or on call SS number where a duty officer can take details this weekend rather than wait til Monday. They are so lucky to have you OP .Good luck with it all

CompressedNerve · 12/03/2022 22:20

I’ve taken into consideration that she could potentially be arrested. However, I do think it’s a risk il willing to take and I also believe she has mental health issues. I think she has some form of depression. Who knows. It’s still not an excuse.

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Icecreamandapplepie · 12/03/2022 22:37

Oh, please help him. Contact someone tonight, he has been and still is bring massively neglected. Sadly school will have even worse cases and its easy for children who are being mistreated to be missed.

This is just awful.

Icecreamandapplepie · 12/03/2022 22:38

Obviously she needs help too, but your priority is him and his sister.

MissMaple82 · 12/03/2022 22:51

Of course you know its not normal. Report your concerns. You'd be a just as bad if you didn't

Crikeyalmighty · 12/03/2022 22:58

I’m so upset thinking about this poor lad and his sister who clearly need help — please do call social services ASAP OP. I’m sorry for your sister too as she clearly has issues but she’s an adult - they are not

Girlmumdogmumboymum · 12/03/2022 23:06

My god I'm so glad you're making referrals. This is terrible.

Your poor nephew.

DissidentDaughter · 12/03/2022 23:06

I think you’re courageous to share this here. It must be worrying, and you’ve been trying to be supportive, while being a mum yourself. It can feel hard being direct with family members because of long-standing dynamics.

Hope you’ve got sound people round you to talk this thru/keep you grounded. Time’s up now for your sister. She probably knows things are critical, but it’s too painful to admit.

(Long ago my family were going to contact SS re me/my son. Just in the nick of time I admitted I was in crisis & asked for help. Best thing that ever happened).

Icanflyhigh · 12/03/2022 23:09

Please report this ASAP, don't wait until Monday- those children need your support and care. SS is available 24/7 for urgent referrals and you will be taken seriously - it sounds like your sister needs some help too in a MH capacity.

Thank god they have you xx

ThreeLocusts · 12/03/2022 23:12

Just to say good job these kids have you in their lives. I'd be tempted to make another attempt to take the boy to the hospital, his situation sounds dangerous. Please do report to all relevant authorities. Could it be that your sister needs MH help too?

mummymayhem18 · 12/03/2022 23:16

Aww this is heartbreaking. Must be so hard for you seeing them like this and even harder knowing it's your sister.

Nannyamc · 12/03/2022 23:16

Please go with your gut..the poor children. They need to be minded.

Kuachui · 12/03/2022 23:22

this is really sad. this needed to happen years ago. she needs to be reported. its a sad thing but she needs help to see its wrong or to lose them if she wont

justasking111 · 12/03/2022 23:39

So glad he will finally get help. The school should have clocked this years ago

CompressedNerve · 13/03/2022 18:27

4% of voters said I was being unreasonable. I wonder what their reasons are???

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HereBdragons · 13/03/2022 18:49

The coat thing will be useful info for your nephew’s dr OP. Even better would be any record or his weight gain over time - his red book if you can get hold of it for example will show projected growth charts based on his height/weight as a young child and if his current height/weight is miles off what it was predicted to be then that’s a useful indication to the drs of how serious his lack of weight gain/growth could be.

AwayInMyMind · 13/03/2022 19:03

If you can, I'd take him to hospital... tell them your suspicions and ask them to call SS... that way it wasn't 'you' that made the report.

Babadook76 · 13/03/2022 19:38

@CompressedNerve

4% of voters said I was being unreasonable. I wonder what their reasons are???
There’s idiots on every thread op. There’s a reason why that people like that don’t bother to comment why.
girlmom21 · 13/03/2022 20:32

@CompressedNerve

4% of voters said I was being unreasonable. I wonder what their reasons are???
They're the kind of knobs who will say "I voted YABU because you should have had them removed from their mother ages ago" or other such idiocy
sweetbellyhigh · 13/03/2022 20:37

@CompressedNerve

4% of voters said I was being unreasonable. I wonder what their reasons are???
Please don't expend energy on something like this. You know you are doing the right thing.
Upyouranty · 13/03/2022 20:47

Op - your sister will probably be allocated a family worker to do an Early help assessment where they will evaluate the dc needs and get some protective measures in place.
I’m really surprised school hasn’t red flagged this though… maybe some interventions ha e taken place and your sisters kept it from you?

Player001 · 13/03/2022 20:49

Thank God you are there to help those kids. Recovery is a long road but with the right support, like you and your mum, it's achievable.

If your sister gets arrested it will likely turn out to be a good thing. She will get the wakeup call and help that she needs.

I do hope everything works out. Your MN family is here to support you the whole way xxx

HumptySumptious · 13/03/2022 20:58

This is one of the worst things I've read on here - please help them.