To think fcuk all is being done to combat climate change

[getdown2021]

Most people don't seem to care and I rarely hear of it anymore despite being told months ago of the dire warnings. Aibu to think no action is being taken either by governments or by the average person?

Nope. It’s all fucked.

It's too late to prevent it cos it's happening already. Arguing about the cause is pointless, we need to try to develop strategies to mitigate its worst effects. On a cheery note, I was reading an article the other week that said we have only got about 80 years left before the planet becomes inhospitable for human survival. I'll see if I can find the link.

It's too late to prevent it cos it's happening already

so what exactly happens and when?>

I think people's attention has been taken over by the pandemic and now the war in Ukraine, but I don't understand what you mean by 'months ago', climate change has been a big worry for decades.

There's been action in the move from coal fired power stations to renewable energy generation, but also the impact of improved living standards in developing countries with wider ownership of appliances like fridges that we've taken for granted for many years.

but I don't understand what you mean by 'months ago', climate change has been a big worry for decades

months ago the big warning came remember.

I don’t even know what this big warning was months ago

The pandemic made people realise that a virus could take over the world at any moment. One that might be a lot worse than Covid, one that can't be vaccinated against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has made people realise just how fragile our lives are. If Putin decides to press the nuclear button, and his military obey his commands, billions of us could be killed in a matter of minutes. Life as any of us know it could end.

People have a finite capacity for worry. In recent years they've filled this with concern about the climate, equal rights and so on. But in the last couple of years this capacity has been filled with much more important matters.

There's no point worrying about what the world will be like in fifty or a hundred years. Most of us will be dead by then. If you're concerned, don't have children and then you won't have to worry about a future with climate change.

We're not on this planet for a long time - less than many of us might expect, given the lowering of life expectancy and risk of nuclear destruction at any moment - so we may as well just enjoy what time we've got left, as individuals and as a species.

Put another way, to me it seems more sensible that people in a hundred years will be cursing us for not stopping climate change than it does for us to fret about a future that might not even happen.

They're not serious about it. It's just one huge fuck up.

I'll give you an example. My friend is a lorry driver and he drives overnight. He explained that road closures are organised by private companies and that he routinely encounters traffic jams with large tailbacks because the road has been closed overnight, yet no work is taking place. He said it's inexplicable why this happening, yet it keeps going on because the closures are not coordinated properly. Meanwhile, the stuck traffic are pumping out fumes and C02 etc. Wasting fuel and polluting the air.

This is one such example. I'm sure there are many more.

1. What type of climate do you want?
2. At what period in our 4+ billion year history did your preferred climate occur?
3. How do you plan to stabilise your preferred climate?
4. How are you planning to compensate for seasonal changes?
5. How big do you want the Polar ice-caps to be?

As for the 80 year timeframe? Hysterical nonsense.

@MorningStarling

The pandemic made people realise that a virus could take over the world at any moment. One that might be a lot worse than Covid, one that can't be vaccinated against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has made people realise just how fragile our lives are. If Putin decides to press the nuclear button, and his military obey his commands, billions of us could be killed in a matter of minutes. Life as any of us know it could end.

People have a finite capacity for worry. In recent years they've filled this with concern about the climate, equal rights and so on. But in the last couple of years this capacity has been filled with much more important matters.

There's no point worrying about what the world will be like in fifty or a hundred years. Most of us will be dead by then. If you're concerned, don't have children and then you won't have to worry about a future with climate change.

We're not on this planet for a long time - less than many of us might expect, given the lowering of life expectancy and risk of nuclear destruction at any moment - so we may as well just enjoy what time we've got left, as individuals and as a species.

Put another way, to me it seems more sensible that people in a hundred years will be cursing us for not stopping climate change than it does for us to fret about a future that might not even happen.

I think this is spot on. How much worry and stress are people supposed to shoulder on a daily basis? I see little point in putting more pressure on the little guys while massive companies like Amazon are still churning out massive boxes full of filler for tiny items, Tesla (and other moron billionaires) are still firing rockets up there and BP are screwing people over financially whilst boasting record profits.

It's up to the governments to start tackling the serious causes and make the people in power pay for the infrastructure changes the world needs. It would be significantly more helpful to the actual "cause" than cutting down my General Waste collection to once a month! That's not going to save the world but the alternatives might.

The point is, the government's won't do the hard work because the people in power are just that...too powerful. Far easier to pile more and more stress, cuts and responsibility on the common people and then it's our fault and not theirs.

There's no point worrying about what the world will be like in fifty or a hundred years. Most of us will be dead by then. If you're concerned, don't have children and then you won't have to worry about a future with climate change

Every time I hear or read about the climate crisis, I am just deeply grateful I don’t have gc, and am unlikely to. I feel sorry for my AC who will have to see this through, and we will soon see masses of climate crisis refugees. There are constant dire warnings but what good does it do? It’s come so much more quickly

The earths climate is controlled by the earth’s orbit not by man

Even Cop26 was a complete farce. Flying people in from all over the world in private jets, massive vehicle convoys to transport the VIPs and their entourages. All the press about them having acquired electric cars for the top guests to use...only for the actual truth of it to be that the location they were staying (Gleneagles) had limited electric charging points so they had to being in diesel generators to charge the electric cars!!

Cop26 could have been a zoom meeting.

YANBU. I think the average person in this country cares more than the government, and the majority have made some changes in a bid to help the environment (even if it's only separating their recycling from their rubbish, which doesnt really have an effect on climate change anyway).

The sad thing is, at least in Britain we have so many renewable energy resources, wind (some of the best potential in the world), tidal power and even solar (which lots of people misunderstsnd and laugh at because they think solar panels need actual sunny summer days, rather than just daylight). We have the potential to completely run this country on renewable energy, and while we've come a long way, as long as the government's best mates are in the oil and gas industries, the willpower to make it a reality just isn't there.

I disagree with the prevailing attitudes that we will be wiped out by climate change in decades, however. Our ancestors survived various climates, including ice ages with rudimentary tools and skins for clothing. Human beings are incredibly adaptable, climate change isn't going to be the thing that wipes us out as a species, but it's still something that will probably lead to worldwide disruption, mass extinctions of other animals and a reduced quality of life for people, and that's the main reason to try and prevent to going too far.

@MorningStarling

The pandemic made people realise that a virus could take over the world at any moment. One that might be a lot worse than Covid, one that can't be vaccinated against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine has made people realise just how fragile our lives are. If Putin decides to press the nuclear button, and his military obey his commands, billions of us could be killed in a matter of minutes. Life as any of us know it could end.

People have a finite capacity for worry. In recent years they've filled this with concern about the climate, equal rights and so on. But in the last couple of years this capacity has been filled with much more important matters.

There's no point worrying about what the world will be like in fifty or a hundred years. Most of us will be dead by then. If you're concerned, don't have children and then you won't have to worry about a future with climate change.

We're not on this planet for a long time - less than many of us might expect, given the lowering of life expectancy and risk of nuclear destruction at any moment - so we may as well just enjoy what time we've got left, as individuals and as a species.

Put another way, to me it seems more sensible that people in a hundred years will be cursing us for not stopping climate change than it does for us to fret about a future that might not even happen.

These are the words I couldn't find.

Most of us can't afford electricity, gas and fuel for our cars so that's naturally cut down on the amount that's used. If I cut back any further I'm going to turn into worzel gummidge.

What is big business and industry doing?

@getdown2021

Most people don't seem to care and I rarely hear of it anymore despite being told months ago of the dire warnings. Aibu to think no action is being taken either by governments or by the average person?

What exactly do you want to 'be done'? What sacrifices are you personally prepared to make to combat climate change?

If we could really run the grid on renewable energy why arnt we? We are going into a huge energy crisis right now if we could really REALLY run all our electricity from the renewable energy sources and leave the oil etc for the cars why arnt we?

Because we fucking can't and yes the country will stagger and fall unless the fuel prices come down people are going to lose there jobs there ability to get to work soon and the government is sitting idle

Then we will hit winter heat or food people will choose food? Then get sick because they are cold its no good saying "we used to cope with no central heating" because we used to have open fires ffs most of us don't have a fireplace anymore my family used to collect wood from the forest year round buy it while it was cheap store it over the summer burn it in the winter save all the newspapers to turn into "bricks" use those too we can't do that in modern house

@Lookjaz

The earths climate is controlled by the earth’s orbit not by man

Ludicrous garbage. It is proven that industrialisation has massively increased global warming and is changing the climate.

Yes.

Fuck all even.

I'm afraid climate change doesn't even appear on my worry radar. We're on the brink of WW3 with a maniac who has the world's largest nuclear arsenal, a tank of diesel costs more than my car is worth, and the world has gone nuts over a virus. I don't really have capacity for a annoying Swedish teenager and some nutters blocking the M25.

It does make me sad, but as a small family of normal people I really don’t know how we (my family personally) can really help. I’ve decided to use reusebale nappies for my soon to be due baby. We sold our house to move somewhere more economical (although this was more for our benefit then the earths but still a bonus that it’s more eco friendly)
I always try and buy biodegradable everything, although I know most biodegradable things still aren’t that good!

I’d like to do my bit, but I just don’t know where to start if I’m honest. Perhaps it’s something I need to start reading into properly - I often think about climate change but I’ve never served into researching how to be more eco friendly. This could be a good starting point!

Things are happening but far too slowly.

Moving to electric cars is fine, but we need huge investment in renewable energy infrastructure. We need the govt to step up on insulating older houses so they can use ground source heat pumps.

We need to encourage people to wfh, not push them back to their offices. We need commuting to be occassional, not every day. We need to tax aviation fuel heavily. We need to look at farming and food miles.

It's as if the govt is waiting for the general public to work it out for themselves and of course they won't until it's too late.

@getdown2021

Most people don't seem to care and I rarely hear of it anymore despite being told months ago of the dire warnings. Aibu to think no action is being taken either by governments or by the average person?

We are being taxed to death for it, they haven't forgot to do that

Total carbon and per capita carbon emissions for this country have been falling for decades because people quietly make changes in their home and work lives, and will continue to do so.