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To think fcuk all is being done to combat climate change

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getdown2021 · 06/03/2022 15:48

Most people don't seem to care and I rarely hear of it anymore despite being told months ago of the dire warnings. Aibu to think no action is being taken either by governments or by the average person?

OP posts:
fungh · 06/03/2022 17:51

@michaelball why do you think UK life expectancy has continued to increase?

"As well as the number of years lived in good health shrinking, the rate of improvement in overall life expectancy is in decline in almost all parts of the UK. Office for National Statistics data show that a long trend of rising life expectancy for men and women in all parts of the UK slowed sharply after 2010 and declined in the latest three-year period, with those born between 2018 and 2020 expected to live shorter lives than those born in the previous three years."

Awkward....

mummykel16 · 06/03/2022 17:51

The best individuals can do is ignore climate doom mongers and decide what they can do themselves, if anything.

As it is one of the best markets to get into is wood burners, because energy prices are ott, in part because of green tax

Tulipomania · 06/03/2022 17:55

Change is happening OP, just not fast enough.

10 years ago only 10% of the electricity we used in this country was from renewables, now it is 43%. The government's aim is to decarbonise ALL our power by 2035.

There are global agreements to limit the temperature rise to 1.5 degrees, although at the moment we're heading for 2.5 degrees, because governments still aren't doing enough.

Electric cars are now outselling petrol & diesel cars in the UK.
New petrol & diesel cars will be banned from 2030.

Gas boilers are being banned from new homes from 2035.

Many people are reducing their meat consumption voluntarily.

Many businesses are also taking a lead, e.g. on reducing plastic packaging and buying only renewable energy.

And one of the good things - maybe - to come out of the Ukraine crisis is that governments are realising that relying on Russia for their gas supplies is a bad idea, and they should be developing more renewable energy, more quickly.

MagicFox · 06/03/2022 18:00

And one of the good things - maybe - to come out of the Ukraine crisis is that governments are realising that relying on Russia for their gas supplies is a bad idea, and they should be developing more renewable energy

Absolutely this. But also I think this is a mood thing. I have worried a lot about climate change but now I'm so consumed with worry about war and the fact we might not have a world to save it's slipped back a bit!

MattHancocksPrivateNurse · 06/03/2022 18:04

I do worry about climate change but I find when people try to push the issue and how awful it is I just have to disengage as it’s too stressful. I recycle, walk and cycle everywhere and use minimal plastic. I can’t spend day in day out crying and worried about the climate- especially with all the other stuff going on. Personally I’m scared of the war currently, the economic impact of rising gas and electrics and the stability of our economy and mine and DHs job security. I can’t take on the environment too, it’s too much. We need huge changes being done at government level.

PinkSyCo · 06/03/2022 18:09

Yep you only to have to look on here at all the people proudly boasting about the 2 or 3 showers they have per day, the 15 or more wash loads per week and the fact that they have their heating on day and night. YANBU.

Dreamstate · 06/03/2022 18:15

What more do you want people to do when they are already recycling their waste.

As a country we only ouout 1% of worlds carbon emissions yet we are pushing people into poverty and misery with the green agenda to be net zero meanwhile other countries continue to pump out over 30% of the world's co2 emissions and they are showing no signs of reducing it.

Why should we be put under such burden when other countries aren't even doing their bit?

People can't afford electric cars, they can't afford to spend thousands upon thousands on air source heat pumps.

So what do uou expect peolle to do more of then OP? Magic money out of things air to afford to be greener?

mummykel16 · 06/03/2022 18:26

@Dreamstate

What more do you want people to do when they are already recycling their waste.

As a country we only ouout 1% of worlds carbon emissions yet we are pushing people into poverty and misery with the green agenda to be net zero meanwhile other countries continue to pump out over 30% of the world's co2 emissions and they are showing no signs of reducing it.

Why should we be put under such burden when other countries aren't even doing their bit?

People can't afford electric cars, they can't afford to spend thousands upon thousands on air source heat pumps.

So what do uou expect peolle to do more of then OP? Magic money out of things air to afford to be greener?

They don't care
mummykel16 · 06/03/2022 18:30

I believe I have done what I can but the government added a third to energy bills doesn't help

Tulipomania · 06/03/2022 18:33

The rise in energy prices isn't the government's fault, it is because we rely too much on gas.

I don't normally share articles in the Mail or by Tory ministers, but for once they've got it right here:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10581569/KWASI-KWARTENG-Switch-power-supplies-win-win-except-Putin.html

mummykel16 · 06/03/2022 18:34

[quote Tulipomania]The rise in energy prices isn't the government's fault, it is because we rely too much on gas.

I don't normally share articles in the Mail or by Tory ministers, but for once they've got it right here:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10581569/KWASI-KWARTENG-Switch-power-supplies-win-win-except-Putin.html[/quote]
Utter tosh

woodhill · 06/03/2022 18:34

The electricity has gone up as well though and it is more expensive in the first place

woodhill · 06/03/2022 18:36

Yes totally agree, why not use our own gas supplies

mummykel16 · 06/03/2022 18:36

How much of your energy bill is tax - green tax?

Yes it's really that much

woodhill · 06/03/2022 18:37

@Dreamstate

What more do you want people to do when they are already recycling their waste.

As a country we only ouout 1% of worlds carbon emissions yet we are pushing people into poverty and misery with the green agenda to be net zero meanwhile other countries continue to pump out over 30% of the world's co2 emissions and they are showing no signs of reducing it.

Why should we be put under such burden when other countries aren't even doing their bit?

People can't afford electric cars, they can't afford to spend thousands upon thousands on air source heat pumps.

So what do uou expect peolle to do more of then OP? Magic money out of things air to afford to be greener?

Spot on
Tulipomania · 06/03/2022 18:37

Why should we be put under such burden when other countries aren't even doing their bit?

Historically the UK is the 8th largest emitter of carbon emissions - our contribution is only low now because we outsource so much of it to other countries like China (we buy their cheap imports and the carbon gets counted there not here).

woodhill · 06/03/2022 18:38

@mummykel16

How much of your energy bill is tax - green tax?

Yes it's really that much

Electric heating was always rubbish and gas radiators work well
Tulipomania · 06/03/2022 18:39

Electricity bills have gone up because in this country we still use a lot of gas to generate electricity.

Tulipomania · 06/03/2022 18:40

gas radiators work well - but not so great when the market price is driven by Russia as the world's largest supplier.

Tulipomania · 06/03/2022 18:41

The issue with our own gas supplies is that they are privatised not state owned so we have to pay the global market price.

stuntbubbles · 06/03/2022 18:41

Aibu to think no action is being taken either by governments or by the average person?
The average person has little to no power to turn the dial, and makes very little impact by making individual changes. Mitigating climate change requires sweeping reforms and tough legislation so in that sense, you’re not BU.

I work in the environment sector and a lot of the action being taken is just drivel reports and coalitions and signatories to commitments saying “something must be done” without actually doing it – look at the Glasgow Breakthroughs launched at Cop. It’s just a list of governments agreeing “we must decarbonise, it’s important, we all commit to it” without actually funding action or changing anything.

Last month’s IPCC report was a pure blind terror moment, tbh.

savehannah · 06/03/2022 18:43

Wow some of the responses here just sum it up really. People just think it's not their problem and someone else will have to sort it out, and it's only a bunch of whingers who want to stop everyone's fun who are worried.

Government decisions on this are mostly based on money. The meme about "only when there are no more plants and animals will you realise you can't eat money" has never been more true.

A huge proportion of people do have children and grandchildren, so it's astonishing that so many don't seem bothered whether there will be an inhabitable world for them to live in or not.

MistOverTheDowns · 06/03/2022 18:44

@Dreamstate

What more do you want people to do when they are already recycling their waste.

As a country we only ouout 1% of worlds carbon emissions yet we are pushing people into poverty and misery with the green agenda to be net zero meanwhile other countries continue to pump out over 30% of the world's co2 emissions and they are showing no signs of reducing it.

Why should we be put under such burden when other countries aren't even doing their bit?

People can't afford electric cars, they can't afford to spend thousands upon thousands on air source heat pumps.

So what do uou expect peolle to do more of then OP? Magic money out of things air to afford to be greener?

There is no proper argument against this post.

There may be shite emotive and ill informed rambling but there is no proper argument against it.

Theunamedcat · 06/03/2022 18:49

The aging population will no longer be a concern if the government cannot get a handle on the fuel crisis carers cannot afford to runthere cars like fuck can they afford electric card on minimum wage universal credit basic amount per month is less than £300 that's for food electric gas fuel and car if your lucky and have one bus and train if you don't Internet because you cannot claim without it these days council tax because you have to pay a portion of it ant rent that's not covered by benefits

People can't afford it they will get sick some will die but hey less people using resources right?

Theunamedcat · 06/03/2022 18:50

Electric CAR fucks sake not card 🙄

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