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Is there something in the air?

155 replies

mashville · 02/03/2022 21:30

My 8 year old daughter came in from school and literally had a breakdown because I couldn't put up her LED lights in her room tonight. I have never her seen her like that before. We have spoken since and as far as she says there is nothing bothering her at school, or anything but boy oh boy. She had the tantrum of all tantrums, she was slamming doors, crying, screaming she wished she was never born, hates her life, hates me, hates her auntie, hates her cousin, I'm the worst mum ever. Crying and hyperventilating. Swinging between screaming hysterically, breaking down crying apologising and then storming away screaming insults again. I tried to help her regulate her emotions but there was no calming her down. She wasn't allowed tv tonight due to her behaviour and thankfully went for an early night without much of a fight. I am in shock with how terribly out of character she behaves tonight.

Upon speaking to my sister, her daughter was the same, complete nightmare all night. I then spoke to my friend and both of her sons have been really challenging since finishing school also.

Anyone else's acting up?

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SouperNoodle · 02/03/2022 23:38

Definitely something in the air. My 2 have been utter horrors for the past few weeks but have been little angels for the last few days. It's very unsettling 😂

GatoradeMeBitch · 02/03/2022 23:38

Actually I have been a tense moody bastard all day, and it can't be hormonal, wrong time of month.

I feel agitated and like I need a good cry or something to punch, and I have no reason to be feeling that way.

SunscreenCentral · 02/03/2022 23:39

Since she's been conscious it's been Brexit and Trump, Pandemic and now War.

Isaidnomorecrisps · 02/03/2022 23:39

There have been studies on the moon’s cycles - Dr Robert Becker The Body Electric. Incredible book and doctor, worked with physicists & discovered tons of interesting things (magnets in birds’ heads for homing). One of his research projects was the psychiatric wards and lunar (?) cycles.

You don’t have to believe me - but a fascinating read.

Libraryghost · 02/03/2022 23:40

@saraclara they don’t want to see it. It upsets them and they cannot go there, There are actual adults who are starting threads about hiding the triggering war subjects. It’s horrid but you have to face up to it because if it’s bad for us it’s far worse for kids. I probably was rude but I don’t care, blaming it on the moon is an easy way for a parent to excuse themselves from doing a bit of parenting,

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 02/03/2022 23:40

Yeah I don't know if it's the new moon, Nostradamus, or the fact that the road had been repaved, but i woke up this morning unable to stop myself laughing, like almost hysterical laughter, then I've been meh all day, anxious, feeling like whats the point. Very much feeling nihilistic.

I think that so much has happened globally in such a short span of time, we've finally got to the point we can't process anymore bad things happening. And it's coming out as anger, frustration, unease, anxiety, hysteria almost.

BoredZelda · 02/03/2022 23:42

Is that moon thing real or a joke?

It’s all just confirmation bias, but it’s as good a thing to pin it on as anything else.

Chakraleaf · 02/03/2022 23:42

Do age 9 was like this earlier.

saraclara · 02/03/2022 23:44

[quote Libraryghost]@saraclara they don’t want to see it. It upsets them and they cannot go there, There are actual adults who are starting threads about hiding the triggering war subjects. It’s horrid but you have to face up to it because if it’s bad for us it’s far worse for kids. I probably was rude but I don’t care, blaming it on the moon is an easy way for a parent to excuse themselves from doing a bit of parenting,[/quote]
I feel for their kids, to be honest. They are literally crying out for security and to be listened to.

I prefer to think that I was blunt rather than rude, but I don't care if it came across as the latter. It's just bizarre to me that scared and distraught kids are being ignored, while their parents post laughing emojis and woo moon stuff.

Libraryghost · 02/03/2022 23:47

@saraclara irresponsible parenting at best. Is there something in the air - yes potentially WW3. It’s really not difficult is it?

mashville · 02/03/2022 23:48

@saraclara yes, yes, our kids are all horribly neglected. Can we move on now?

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silverspiral · 02/03/2022 23:49

Yes, both of mine and it isn’t the moon in their case as they don’t usually get like this.

Vitani · 02/03/2022 23:51

Well seeing the moon controls entire oceans surely it's not impossible to imagine that it could possibly have some subtle effects on a human brain that is over 70% water

It's not impossible to imagine, no, but it should be provable. The position of the moon at the time of your birth is supposed to change your personality (moon signs that go alongside sun signs in astrology), yet nobody has been able to prove it does. If there are quantifiable changes in humans (more violent, more prone to cry, more excitable, more angry etc) then multiple studies should be able to show that.

Everything I have seen says it is a myth, with studies finding no correlation or, if they did find something worth noting, they were unable to replicate the results in further administrations of the study. Replication of results is important for proving a theory.

Studies have failed to find a correlation between the Moon and mental health. An analysis of ‘lunar-lunacy’ research published in 1985 concluded that there was no connection between the Moon and incidents such as crime, suicides and mental hospital admissions. A recent study in 2019, analysing the data of 17,966 individuals treated at various psychiatric wards over a period of 10 years (substantial sample size, longitudinal study) also found "no evidence that our celestial neighbour influences our mental well-being."

Many a study has been done to try to prove a link between the full moon and abnormal human behaviour, but the results have been murky at best. In fact, when a trio of researchers looked into more than 100 of these studies, they found none that could conclusively establish a connection between the full moon and human behaviour.

What they found instead was a subpar body of research that was conducted poorly or did not properly account for variables. For example, one study they analyzed showed car accidents are more likely to occur on the night of a full moon. But the data used for the study was collected on full moon nights that occurred on the weekend, when a higher incidence of car accidents occurs no matter the stage of the moon.

Also, the pull of the moon only creates tides in open bodies of water, like oceans and lakes (but only to a very small, almost unmeasurable extent in even our largest lakes). Closed bodies of water, like the water in our bodies, are not affected by this gravitational force.

Furthermore, while we are made up of a lot of water, the amount is actually miniscule compared to the oceans

Illusory correlations exist because we tend to remember events better than non-events. If something unusual happens during a full moon, for example, we take notice and even tell others about it. When nothing of note happens during a full moon, there's nothing to remember or tell others about, so this non-event fades from memory.

It's also possible that many moons ago, the full moon did, indeed, affect human behavior and that's why this idea still persists today. Some researchers believe the moon did lead to abnormal human behavior in the days before electricity allowed for indoor lighting and streetlights. In the days when many humans lived outdoors and slept under the light of the moon, the bright full moon could have made sleep more difficult, making people act different than normal or even exacerbating mental illnesses.

GooGooMorning · 02/03/2022 23:54

Dc2 was like this Sunday/Monday a week ago and I have felt awful since last Tuesday, a potent mix of anxiety and anger, which peaked on Friday and over the weekend but has actually eased up now. Am I out of touch with everyone else Confused?

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 02/03/2022 23:57

I've worked in a Middle School (ages 11-14) for 20+ years. I absolutely believe the moon can effect people (Full Moon especially), BUT I dont believe for a second that is what is SUDDENLY making kids different. If the moon made your child emotional this would not be the first time you noticed it. It's the anxiety of what is going on in the world right now. Pretending its "just the moon" is not going to make things better.

ItsDinah · 02/03/2022 23:57

There are genuine and valid studies that show testosterone levels in humans vary according to temperature and daylight hours. In Norway, there were two peaks in testosterone levels, one in February and another, much bigger one, in October/November.

cuno · 02/03/2022 23:58

@saraclara

I don't think it's the moon either, yes I think it's a load of woo. But I highly doubt the parents who believe that are laughing in their kids' faces and telling them IT'S THE MOON then ignore them to post on here about it. Sounds like the children are already settled in bed and parents are on here for a bit of a rant or light relief after giving them love, attention and comfort. Whereas you come on here to look down your nose at parents who are trying to laugh off a shit day.

Shuffleuplove · 03/03/2022 00:01

My 11 year old was like this at Christmas. Absolutely no talking to him, off on a massive giant rant that went on for ages and ages, screaming fits, throwing things, the lot. I have never seen anything like it. Then he threw up, still shouting. He had a temp which was hardly surprising given the tantrum he had, but later tested positive for covid. I think as the virus hit he just got the arse.

wtfisgoingonhere21 · 03/03/2022 00:02

I've been really flat since Sunday. Really tired and emotional at times.

Today I just feel meh and so do my dc.

Dramas at school are normal at secondary anyway so I'm just putting it down to the shitty weather and my friggin insomnia that has come bak this week to haunt me.

MoFro · 03/03/2022 00:03

Forget the kids I’ve had an awful day today!! Been a right stroppy cow and full of negativity

TheMagpie · 03/03/2022 00:03

DS12, DS10, DD8, DD8 and DD8 have been fine, they know about the situation in Ukraine because I explained it in a way they understand.

Not knowing and merely hearing whispers makes them more anxious.

NoSleepNoSleep · 03/03/2022 00:04

The past few days my usually very pleasant, well behaved 6 year old has been a total nightmare, honestly it's like she's been swapped with another child. I know they watch newsround at school and I asked her what did she know about what was happening, she actually gets whats going on but didn't know why (I don't properly know why!) She said Russia must be mad with the Ukraine, why are they mad? It could be that unsettling her and maybe other kids?

The moon thing has something in it too though, I go a bit mental when there's a full moon, my husband noticed years ago I always have a fallout with him when there's a fullmoon (which is me starting it over nothing), he'll go "ooo full moon"

GooGooMorning · 03/03/2022 00:04

That's so interesting @ItsDinah

SmellyOldOwls · 03/03/2022 00:04

My four year old has been a bit difficult this last week. He's tired and I think he's picking up on our anxiety about the state of the world.

imornowt · 03/03/2022 00:08

@TheMagpie

DS12, DS10, DD8, DD8 and DD8 have been fine, they know about the situation in Ukraine because I explained it in a way they understand.

Not knowing and merely hearing whispers makes them more anxious.

You've got your hands full 😅
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