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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

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Angelswithflirtyfaces · 27/02/2022 09:59

Blimey if you organise any meal for these freeloaders I bet you on the day even with advance warning that you are not paying, they will 'forget their purses' or thought it was a misunderstanding etc.
Easier to not organise at all as I bet you end up lending it to most of them who never pay it back causing more ill feeling. Just keep to original family member.

HeadingForHome · 27/02/2022 10:02

What have I read??! I can't believe cheeky fuckers like this roam the earth. Be direct with the OP, no tactful about it. They won't take any subtle hints so you have to be completely honest.

RealBecca · 27/02/2022 10:03

I'd tell her there's clearly been a misunderstanding and the one to one meal you had booked with a friend doesnt work with the birthday extravaganza and the restaurant cant accommodate that many so it's better to seperate the two- she can keep the restaurant and tour and friend will rebook elsewhere and hopefully you can meet up with her another time. Tell her you're cancelling the booking tonight but you can pass on her details if she wants to keep it. Oh- and that you never offered to pay for extended family so she will need to pay full costs inc deposit with restaurant.

zingally · 27/02/2022 10:04

Just cancel it, and catch up with the original family privately, or some other time. Sounds like you've got some cf'ers in your family/extended circle.

But... Playing devils advocate here... How many memorial events/dinner do you REALLY need for your deceased father? Your post made me think you weren't in the UK, so perhaps it's culturally different there?
It sounds like he's been deceased a number of years, so actually I'm not surprised extended family are "hi-jacking" the event for other celebrations, such as birthdays.

In the UK, the events after a death consist of a funeral and wake, and MAYBE a celebration of life/small gathering of immediate family, a year after the event. Multiple events, multiple years after the persons death seems... a lot.

Nordicwannabe · 27/02/2022 10:06

Forcing them to pay is much harder than just cancelling

Given what has happened the last few times, you need to be realistic about your own ability to say no. If you ask everyone to pay for themselves - or try to reduce the numbers - they'll ignore you and you'll end up paying anyway.

It's not fair, but I think you need to reschedule your weekend.

Cancel the restaurant booking (changing it to your relatives name is ambiguous, and she'll probably go ahead and send you the bill, which you'll feel guilted into paying)

And you do need to send a message to everyone saying that you hadn't arranged a family get-together - not sure how that was miscommunicated! You've unfortunately had to cancel your visit that weekend anyway. Hope to see them next time you're there.

If you're feeling evil, you can add that you think DRelative is organising a birthday get-together so maybe they'll all see each other anyway. Let her see what it feels like to be set up! But I suspect you're too nice to do that, so you can just imagine doing it Halo

Then next time you're there, arrange to see people at their homes. Bring a few nice treats, and enjoy each other's company Smile

Continue that until the expectation that you'll pay for big meals out (wtf!?!) has gone.

PinchOfVom · 27/02/2022 10:06

Rearrange it on the quiet

Then cancel your attendance

Whatsonmymindgrapes · 27/02/2022 10:09

Don’t pay for them all. That’s not fair

ThanksItHasPockets · 27/02/2022 10:10

Cancel the trip.

Rearrange for another date.

Don’t tell this person and have as little do with her as you possibly can in the future.

WTF475878237NC · 27/02/2022 10:11

You reply "what do you mean the restaurant will do me a deal? I'm not going to be paying for everyone"

^ this.

Flickflak · 27/02/2022 10:11

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WetLookKnitwear · 27/02/2022 10:11

Can you be honest with the first family member? Call them - don’t text, it can be misconstrued. Say look, I want to meet up with close family but I can’t afford to pay for a meal for everyone who wants to come!

You don’t sound pathetic, it’s just an awkward situation which isn’t your fault.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 27/02/2022 10:11

That’s just crazy. Stand up for yourself and say you’re not going.
Rearrange a different date with original invitee and tell them not to blab about again it to CF

SpilltheTea · 27/02/2022 10:14

Why are you letting these people walk over you? Tell her she's uninvited and to sort her own bloody events out. You have to be blunt with people like this because they will choose to ignore every hint under the sun.

CrackerGal · 27/02/2022 10:14

@ThanksItHasPockets

Cancel the trip.

Rearrange for another date.

Don’t tell this person and have as little do with her as you possibly can in the future.

This

glitterfarts · 27/02/2022 10:18

Message the birthday girl: I'm not in the headspace for a party as still upset re Dad passing away, so will bow out of your birthday party and see you another time. Hope you have a great time with your friends.

Message for original supporting friend: I'm not in the mood for a party, so am not going to CFer's birthday party. Completely understand if you'd rather attend that and I will reschedule our meal out for a different day as I just want to catch up with you.

If she comes back and says she wants to see you, not birthday girl then you say either "shall we stay in for a catch up then and I'll get a takeaway in for dinner for the 2 of us and kids" or "I'd like to go to a restaurant with just you and the kids, let me know some dates that work. After what happened last time, I don't want a big family meal, due to the expectation I'll pay for everyone after being ignored and treated rudely all night. So please don't tell them all I'm coming."

Moooning · 27/02/2022 10:19

These people are not your friends

jytdtysrht · 27/02/2022 10:19

Well firstly I wonder why you feel the need to be tactful with someone who treats you like shit.

I would send a message to all saying that the restaurant can’t accommodate a large group and that you will just be going out with original person as planned and thank all these people for thinking of you at the anniversary of your dad’s death (they clearly are thinking of themselves).

You don’t need to fully explain.

AtrociousCircumstance · 27/02/2022 10:19

You’re feeling isolated and vulnerable OP so you need to take extra care of yourself, and ringfence your needs and feelings with even more attention than usual. In this instance it may mean pissing chancers off but their reaction to your boundary setting is not your problem.

If you want the original plan only, then that’s what must happen. Breezily let everyone know it won’t be an extended meet this time but you hope everyone is well and lots of love, or whatever - it is important you don’t get used by others. Look after yourself Flowers

jytdtysrht · 27/02/2022 10:20

I can’t imagine trying to get a free meal from someone this way, I suppose unless I really didn’t like them at all. But even then I just wouldn’t go.

AllOfUsAreDead · 27/02/2022 10:20

I would just change the original booking to birthday bitches name and tell her to handle it all, including payment.

Then rebook somewhere else for the original family member and make it clear that it's just for them this time, no one else.

If you let this go ahead, they'll just keep taking advantage of you forever. Use your voice.

RachelGreeneGreep · 27/02/2022 10:21

I know this thread is like the 'cancel the cheque' one, OP, and lots of good advice has already been given.

Tbh, when you come across someone like that, you don't go for tact. Protect yourself, you are still grieving, and I am sorry for your loss.
Rearrange a quiet meal, with the original person.

Tell the other one, and all those who contacted you, that it's not happening. As much as I like the idea of telling them it will cost x per head, you don't need that stress.

And block her on social media, people probably see straight through her nonsense anyway.

MoirasWigStand · 27/02/2022 10:22

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LostMyLastHatfulOfWords · 27/02/2022 10:22

You have universal support (a rare thing on Mumsnet) for NOT paying for this event.

If you feel strong - confront her and explain that although you would like to see CF and friends, you don't wish to pay for her party.

If (like me) you hate confrontation - cancel the weekend and the huge party. Rebook with your chosen few - on another date- and stay firm about not adding people to your booking.

WetLookKnitwear · 27/02/2022 10:23

Also I think you need to be blunt and spell it out that you can’t afford to pay for everyone’s meal this time. If you’re coy about it then the cheekier people will try to get you to pay again.

Briony123 · 27/02/2022 10:23

@Bouledeneige

It is CFuckery. You need to say what you said in your opening para - 'I'm so sorry I was only planning a small meal with dear ...... because they have been so kind to me since my father died. The restaurant doesn't have room for a larger gathering and I can't afford to pay for a large group. Last time it cost £££. '
Her ability to pay for the meal has absolutely nothing to do with it. She could be Bill Gates, she still shouldn't be tricked into paying for an entire town of freeloaders.