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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

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cansu · 27/02/2022 09:32

Contact them all and say the meal is off. Reorganise the meal you wanted with just your immediate family. Be clear when inviting these people what the deal is. Eg I am treating x family to a meal. You are v welcome to join us but I am unable to pay for all. Alternatively stick to the restaurant you planned with the people you can fit in. Send an email or message clarifying the costs. If they need to pay for themselves.

cansu · 27/02/2022 09:35

By the way don't feel cowed by this woman. Put something like unfortunately like most money is tight so am not able to foot the bill this time. Menu and prices are here and put restaurant address. You will then only get those who actually want to see you. Dont let these people take the piss out of you.

olympicsrock · 27/02/2022 09:36

Oh OP I’m sending you a big hug . This must feel tough to deal with and read.

Perhaps let this be a turning point where you realise that being a people pleaser is not always the best way. Try to stand up for yourself and what you want x

Monr0e · 27/02/2022 09:37

OP I'm sorry for the loss of your dad. You sound very kind and thoughtful however it also sounds like if this meal goes ahead you would probably end up paying.

This woman is not your friend in any way shape or form. I think the best thing you could do is cancel altogether as others have suggested. Make up an excuse if you feel you need to. But make it clear you are no longer visiting that weekend. And rip the plaster off and do it today otherwise it will be on your mind till its done.

Then contact the original friend and say you will arrange something another time, see what her response is, she obviously told CF you were coming in the first place. Is she likely to tell her again if you make other arrangements?

Bouledeneige · 27/02/2022 09:37

It is CFuckery. You need to say what you said in your opening para - 'I'm so sorry I was only planning a small meal with dear ...... because they have been so kind to me since my father died. The restaurant doesn't have room for a larger gathering and I can't afford to pay for a large group. Last time it cost £££. '

Dee00 · 27/02/2022 09:39

You poor thing op, if I were you I would call the original family member who you wanted to see and be completely honest with her. She obviously cares for you and will completely understand. Tell her you just don’t have the money to pay for everyone, and you are so stressed about the situation that you are thinking of not coming. She must of played a part in telling the cf you were coming, she needs to step up and help diffuse this. Don’t slag anyone off to her just be honest, this time you can’t afford it.
Hope you sort it out and manage to go and have a lovely time.

1AngelicFruitCake · 27/02/2022 09:39

Also, would your kind family member be meeting you for a meal if you weren’t paying? You need to have relationships on more equal terms.

InTheNameOfAllThatIsHonest · 27/02/2022 09:39

Some people's sense of entitlement is astonishing.

LittleWins · 27/02/2022 09:40

She’s outrageous. I’m conflict avoidant so my options would be…

1.) Message saying ‘Having thought about it, I’m going to have a quiet catch with lovely friend that evening as originally planned but I’d love to meet for a drink later to celebrate your birthday. I’ve left the restaurant booking in your name x’ Switch restaurants for your meal & choose to meet for drink or not on the night.
2.) ‘I have covid and can’t make the weekend. Have fun!’

0nTheEdge · 27/02/2022 09:41

It looks like as you paid the last couple of times that people think this had set a precedent, especially the cheeky cow who got away with so much last time that she now feels she can push the line even further!
I understand how hard it is to stand up for yourself, especially when you're in a vulnerable place. I'm so sorry for your loss. If it were me, I'd cancel the whole thing saying there was a misunderstanding and everything had snowballed out of control. I'd then talk to original person and say you'd love to see them, maybe another time so the two plans don't get messy? Maybe offer to go to their house and pick up an m&s family meal and treats. If a million people then turn up, people will be hungry and you can buy yourself a sandwich on the way home 😆

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 27/02/2022 09:42

Option 1 is to cancel the whole thing and re arrange with your initial family member in a few weeks time.

BUT - Why should you do this and miss out

So I would do Option 2-

Contact CF person and explain you're not quite sure how a very small gathering has escalated so quickly and make clear the venue cannot accommodate such a large group of people.

Tell her she and her kids are still welcome to join you and other family member BUT YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR HER.

If she wants to join you she will have to Tell ALL the people she invited the mass gathering has been postponed/ cancelled.

If she doesn't then she needs to find ANOTHER venue to host her birthday meal.

Explain you won't be able to make it on the same day, but are happy to (if you are) go and celebrate with her on another occasion.

Unfortunately given the background info you have provided it sounds like you're going to have to be blunt here. She obviously thinks you're paying for god knows how many people (please dont be taken advantage of) and I can't quite believe her level of CFK -ery !!
Good luck OP.

Rainartist · 27/02/2022 09:42

You need to be blunt with people like this. State you will not be paying for anyone, so there is no doubt. I'm sure the cheeky fuckers will drop out if they were expecting a freebie! Just send a friendly text saying great to see everyone but you're only paying for yourself.

Arrange a small meal for the friend you want to treat but say explicitly it's just you and them, don't invite xyz.

MyPretttyRedDress · 27/02/2022 09:43

Oh my word. Birthday girl clearly has the rind of a rhino! It sounds like, not for the first time, you have been bamboozled into doing something you don't want to do.
But here's the good news. You absolutely do not need to do it again.
If you just want to have lunch with your one good friend then that's what you should do. Cancel the other 'friend'. You don't have to explain yourself - just repeat that it no longer works for you. I would not send a message to anyone else as you did not invite them.

Change the venue and enjoy the lunch as you wanted to. I promise you will find it liberating. It might be a bit scary if you are not used to being assertive but the thrill of not being pushed around will be worth it.

Rainartist · 27/02/2022 09:46

On the other hand I do like the response that said let them all get there expecting a freebie and you just ring to say you have covid and can't make it at the last minute so they have to pay! Grin

Caoimhe17 · 27/02/2022 09:46

I have recently split with my partner. Long story short is we moved to Devon to live with his family from Ipswich. We have a 3 year old together and I gave up my whole live in Ipswich to go there.
I have been studying at weekends so not been there for the last 8 months at weekends, so I know I've been absent. This is all being held against me. He and his family (who are very controlling and overbearing) don't want me to take my daughter with me. I know she is settled and happy there. I am heartbroken as I want to do what's right for her. I brought up my other daughter on my own but circumstances were different. I know I currently don't have much. Any advice would be appreciated, please no hate as I'm fragile enough as it is

Tillymintpolo · 27/02/2022 09:47

@Caoimhe17

I have recently split with my partner. Long story short is we moved to Devon to live with his family from Ipswich. We have a 3 year old together and I gave up my whole live in Ipswich to go there. I have been studying at weekends so not been there for the last 8 months at weekends, so I know I've been absent. This is all being held against me. He and his family (who are very controlling and overbearing) don't want me to take my daughter with me. I know she is settled and happy there. I am heartbroken as I want to do what's right for her. I brought up my other daughter on my own but circumstances were different. I know I currently don't have much. Any advice would be appreciated, please no hate as I'm fragile enough as it is
You need to start your own thread
SpiderVersed · 27/02/2022 09:49

that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group

“Good Lord, CF, I’m not paying for the meal. Whatever gave you that idea?”

Job done.

Rockdown2020 · 27/02/2022 09:50

OP, this is terrible. I’m sorry you are in this position at a vulnerable time in your life.

I’d honestly have no time for any of these people including the original family member you agreed to treat to lunch. What exactly was the purpose of them telling other people you were treating them. Having already paid their way multiple times I’d be really embarrassed to accept another meal on you no matter how kind I had been, I mean isn’t that normal whilst someone is bereaved?

Maybe save the time and money on these complete CFs and treat yourself to something nice. It’ll likely still be less than paying for upwards of 20 people (likely more) to eat and drink on your credit cards. I’m genuinely shocked.

You are worth far more than this treatment. If I was feeling really mean I’d cancel due to a stomach bug half an hour before....

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 27/02/2022 09:51

Also how did CF person know you were visiting? Did your family member mention it? - would they be likely to do this again? With the situation escalating again ?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 27/02/2022 09:52

Bugger that!!

'hi CF, so sorry, plans have changed and I'm not able to meet you for lunch when I come to x, we'll have to meet for a coffee next time I'm in town.'

'hi, original family, meeting you for a meal seems to have morphed into a party for x with me footing the bill. I shan't be going, but would love to meet just you and the kids at alternative restaurant - does that sound OK to you? Really looking forward to seeing you, hope you can make it.'

Depending on how much anarchy you want to cause, you could send the message to the person you actually want to meet first, swear them to secrecy, and cancel on CF last minute so she doesn't have time to cancel and has to pay for HER guests herself!!

ivykaty44 · 27/02/2022 09:53

I’d set up a whatsapp group for everyone

Call it family meal

Then put this message…

Hi everyone I thought it would be easier to have a group chat to organise family meal

I can book restaurant and put down a deposit for meal. So can all those that want to attend send deposit if £15 per adult and £7.50per child by 7th March. Then I’ll book table with numbers. If I’ve not heard from you by 7th I’ll understand you’re not able to join us on this occasion and hopefully see you another time. Message me separately for bank details for money transfer.
Looking forward to seeing so many of you kiss kiss

This makes it clear you’re not paying
Those that want to see you will contact and pay deposit

Contact your original family that you invited for meal and explain you’re paying their deposit and meal

TenRedThings · 27/02/2022 09:53

I think you have to be blunt. ' you seem to have confused your birthday celebrations with a small lunch I was organizing. I am not in a position to pay for or organise your party but it would be lovely to see you, perhaps I could drop by for a cuppa.´

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 27/02/2022 09:55

More mature course of action would probably be to message CF and say 'CF, why are loads of people contacting me about a meal out? I'm not organising a big thing for your birthday?! I'm happy to come to something you organise (if you are, I wouldn't be!) but I'm not organising it, and I'm certainly not paying for everyone. Please let me know what's going on.'

Lifeismeh · 27/02/2022 09:56

You don’t use tact.
You’re brutal and honest… apologise that it’s not the event she thought it was but you were planning a catch up with X friend. Anyone else coming should pay there way.

brainhurts · 27/02/2022 09:59

I second a what's app " hi all , so pleased you all want to catch up , it's X amount a head plus your drinks . I think it's easier for everyone to pay the venue direct rather than forward me there share "
They will all drop out .
Also a separate message to your original guest that you will pay there bill but as it's snowballed your not in a able to pay for everyone.

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