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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

OP posts:
oakleaffy · 27/02/2022 01:24

@Mogs43
Imagine your dear Dad at your side.
He would be desperately hurt to see you abused in this way by these cheeky scroungers.

You can do it!

Just have your get together with your chosen friend, and leave the drama queen out of it.

mrsbitaly · 27/02/2022 01:27

Oh OP what an awful situation and you are clearly being taken advantage of your kind nature. It's really cheeky you are being expected to pay if anything they should be offering to pay considerably you have done it last time.

I get stressed easily so I would probably cancel the whole thing and arrange a get together another time making it absolutely clear that it's just for certain people.

But if you have bigger balls then me you need to be clear that there isn't enough room and you are unable to pay for everybody's meal this time.

Yellownightmare · 27/02/2022 01:39

@DifficultBloodyWoman

WTF???
  1. Contact EVERYONE with a group email/text/WhatsApp.

Dear all,
First, I want to say that I’m so looking forward to seeing everyone soon and catching up with you.

However, I understand that lots of people have been told I am hosting a dinner at /restaurant name/ on /date/for /x number of people/. That is not the case!

I’m not sure quite how that happened but, unfortunately, I already have plans then and /the restaurant name,/ wouldn’t be able to accommodate so many people at that time anyway.

That said, I really do want to see everyone so please can we make other arrangements? I’m not planning a big party because I really want to spend quality time with you to catch up and I’ve found that just doesn’t happen with a million people around.

Lots of love - Mogs

  1. Then contact your original invitees and tell them it is still on.
  1. Then (optional) contact Cheeky Fucker Birthday Girl and say you’ve no idea how a meal out with her snowballed to you paying for x number of people at a restaurant so you’ve had to email everyone to put a stop to it. Good grief - can she imagine the bill?!? But you’d love to celebrate her birthday with her so she should let you know when and where her party is so you can give her a birthday card.
  1. Have a laugh with everyone about it and point out how ridiculous it is to expect you to foot the enormous bill for a catch up with so many people when you only get to spend. 3 minutes talking with each person. You’d much rather have a cup of tea (at someone’s home ) and a ‘proper chat’.

I suspect that there is more than one cheeky fucker in the group and they will be suitably ashamed of taking advantage of your hospitality in the past. If they grumble about it, they clearly prefer your credit cards to your company.

Absolutely this! It's brilliant.
Yellownightmare · 27/02/2022 01:43

Oh and the woman whose birthday if it is is spectacularly rude and entitled and I'm sorry she's treated you so shabbily in the past. Don't give her the opportunity to repeat her poor behaviour.

VivX · 27/02/2022 01:43

Awful situation for you. What CFs. Do what other PPs have suggested and cancel birthday CF and everyone she invited just meet the original person and her children.
Have a lovely dinner and catch up and do not worry about being tactful to a bunch of CF freeloaders.

Decemberly · 27/02/2022 01:58

OP, you sound like a lovely and considerate person, and you know this family member is completely taking advantage of your good nature.

I would firstly contact your original family member to say that it seems that the arrangements have got out of hand and you had no intention of a big gathering so plan to put the others off, is she still happy to meet up with you, and perhaps you could book a different restaurant?

I would then send a message to your cheeky relative and say that it seems that the original plans have now evolved into a much larger party which is just not at all what you wanted on this trip back home, and so by all means if she wants to deal directly with the restaurant to arrange it as a birthday meal for herself please do so but you will definitely give it a miss, and perhaps catch up with her another time for a coffee. I wouldn’t give the reason that the restaurant can’t accommodate the numbers (even though that is true) as she is clearly very determined to freeload and so may well find an alternative and expect you to pay if you aren’t very clear that you will not be attending a large group gathering.

OP, I struggle with anxiety around situations like this and in the past have tended to try to ‘make things alright’ when someone massively oversteps boundaries, even though I have ended up being unhappy with the situation. I find now that clear communication helps a lot - ambiguity around everyone’s expectations only leads to second-guessing and frustration for me - and I am surprised how liberating it has been at times to just say no, and let the other person deal with it.

I hope you are able to resolve it with minimum fuss and still enjoy a nice meal with your lovely family member and her children.

bluebird3 · 27/02/2022 02:22

Let her go ahead and then don't turn up,
Leaving CF with the bill. When she calls/texts to complain say you're very sorry, you're ill and unable to attend. Play dumb that she expected you to pay as that was never discussed and you never offered.

Flickflak · 27/02/2022 02:38

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ChippyTea16 · 27/02/2022 02:39

You really need to just reply to her text message and say ‘it seems you’re wanting to do your birthday thing after all, I was only looking to catch up with ‘original family member and kids’ so il leave to you organise your birthday meal and re-arrange with other family member for another time’ then just text the person you were originally meant to be taking for a meal and see if they are free another time.

If the CF goes on about being ‘let down’ you need to be straight with her; she’s obviously organising everyone to come to the meal so she can fucking well pay if that’s what she’s promised them!

If anyone else texts you just be honest and say you don’t know what’s happening as you’d only planned to meet up with so-and-so so any questions should be directed to the birthday girl! Cheeky fucking bitch!

Lougle · 27/02/2022 04:20

This is not your awkward situation to navigate. Group message: 'Hi everyone, I'm really sorry but there seems to have been some confusion. In the past we have had big group meals but this weekend I was expecting to just have low key catch ups. I can't host a big meal. You are all welcome to carry on but I won't be able to attend. If anyone fancies a cuppa, let me know and we'll sort something out!'

Then go back to your original plan.

Elbie79 · 27/02/2022 04:22

@Hugasauras

Shock CFers! I'd just say 'Sorry, turns out the restaurant has no availability for us all. Let's catch up some other time instead' and just go with your original plan to just meet the one family member and their DC. Definitely don't get forced into paying for dozens of folk who were never invited in the first place!
Yea, do this!!
CheesusTheSaviour · 27/02/2022 04:30

Stop being a mug.

Poppins2016 · 27/02/2022 04:45

I agree with the PPs who've said you should stick to the original numbers...

However, if the event does go ahead with everyone and you don't want to pay for the whole group, make sure you ask the venue to set up tabs for your different groups at the start (in your case, this could discretely include the family member you wanted to pay for initially). This will reduce the likelihood of anyone doing a runner 'because they misunderstood' and leaving you with the whole cost!

marble1 · 27/02/2022 04:48

I'd cancel the booking and go to the home of the lovely person,. Get really yum takeaway in and have a nice chat and relax .
With regard to bitchface - just text her I no longer have a restaurant booking. Enjoy your birthday. Maybe we can catch up another time.

MissMinutes24 · 27/02/2022 05:05

Cancel. You don't owe this CF anything. Her posting Sad Pics on social media is irrelevant. And you could always screenshot this post and put it in the comments of her Facebook post if necessary (lighthearted but also not)

Snog · 27/02/2022 05:09

I think you need to be direct with the birthday friend here.
Say you didn't expect for her to invite other people along and ask her to clarify whether individuals will be paying for their meals or if she is expecting you to fund the meal for everyone.

If she says she is expecting you to pay for everyone, tell her you certainly haven't agreed to do that and find it strange that she would think you would want to host and pay for a birthday meal for her and her friends. Suggest she goes ahead with her birthday meal if she wishes but that you will not be attending or paying for it.

Then make a separate new arrangement with family X

Cocogreen · 27/02/2022 05:35

Contact the first friend and say that the event has got out of hand - you'd like to see her but not the large group. Make a new arrangement at a smaller venue with her.
Contact cheeky person and say, I'm not up to a big occasion but I hope you all enjoy the time together. Contact venue, give them her details and say you won't be attending and Cheeky can confirm bookings and numbers from now on.

Coka · 27/02/2022 05:55

OP you sound lovely! Some of your family members however sound awful.

Cancel your booking and text the CF saying you are confused about the situation since so many people have been invited. Tell her you have cancelled your booking so she can make her own and organise her birthday meal. Say of course you will not be paying for any of it since she is the one organising it.

Then make plans on a different evening with the lovely family member, do not let the CF come or she will make a negative atmosphere I'm sure.

Although the suggestion above of letting it go ahead and then saying you are sick on the evening and not showing up does sound more fun!

mjf981 · 27/02/2022 06:01

Total CF.
She looks to you as her chance for a free catchup with all her mates/relatives for her birthday. I know its hard, but I'd call her out on it if you can. If she throws a hissy and goes NC, win win in my view.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 27/02/2022 07:17

Make a reservation at another venue in CFs name. Tell her to invite everyone to that venue.
The night of the party, send a bunch of balloons to CF at the venue, with a note "Happy Birthday, Wish I Could Be There!"
Let her pay the bill for her party.
Meanwhile -- you and your original group are at your original venue catching up and honoring your father's memory.Halo

NameGoesHere · 27/02/2022 07:19

Stop being a doormat. Just cancel the weekend. They are all rude gits. I’d even question the person you were happy to pay for ad it seems that have caused this problem. What a bunch of freeloaders.

JuneOsborne · 27/02/2022 07:20

Dude, woman up. Oh, this isn't what I'd planned and on reflection, I'm sticking to my original plan of a table for me and X. Restaurant can't even fit you and your gang in, so it works out well. You can go and enjoy your birthday and I'll see X. Maybe catch up later for a glass of wine if the timings are right!

Have a lovely evening.

nicesausages · 27/02/2022 07:23

You could just say thanks for offering to pay for it all ... and see what the response is!

20viona · 27/02/2022 07:24

You really need to stand up for yourself here
A- do not pay
B - step back and say your aren't responsible for organising any more attendees
C - dump this 'mate' quick time she's a CF

HollowTalk · 27/02/2022 07:25

I wouldn't even want to see any of them never mind to pay for them. I agree with the messages above. Just see the person you intended to see originally and if you see anyone else just see them in their own house and don't buy them anything!