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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

OP posts:
Sunsetmom · 28/02/2022 20:33

Apologies just seen OP update!

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 28/02/2022 20:56

Please do not pay!!!!! Your CF friend or relative is relying on your politeness not to tell her to do one. That is how people like this get away with this crap. So, I would rebook for your original party somewhere else. Then email CF and tell her that it seems to have turned into a massive birthday bash and you feel it would be better if she hosted it so you are bowing out to ensure she really has the attention she deserves on her birthday. And point out that when this has happened before it ends up with you not really able to spend time with her anyway. So you will catch up with her at some other time when you are there and wish her a happy birthday. She may well kick off, but it is that or lay down and let her walk all over you. Please look after yourself.

Italiangreyhound · 28/02/2022 20:57

Tell all those hangers on that the meal will not be happening now and make plans with just the ones you want to see.

"I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me " Then do that.

"...its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?" It's 100% fair to invite those you want to and not others and NO ONE should be expecting you or other people to pay for them.

What would you do?

Speak to the organizers and re-arrange either date or time or venue and tell everyone else. Not happening,.

Whoever sat you at the kids table - block!

AliceVHerts · 28/02/2022 21:00

I think it is time for you to stop caring as much about what people who do not deserve your time and energy think about you. As someone guilty all to often of this myself I know this is far easier said than done. Clearly you are feeling taken advantage of, and if you go ahead and pay for all those jumping on the free wagon to people please again you’ll resent those who did, and probably yourself for letting them.
If you want the additional people there, create an event on Facebook outlining the details, the deposit the venue will need, menu and price. If you don’t want these add ons attending, politely advise you’re just planning an intimate meal. Use covid and numbers as an excuse if it makes it easier for you. And do yourself a huge favour and be proud of being assertive and decisive afterwards 😀

murakamilove · 28/02/2022 21:08

I’m really sorry you are in this situation. Please don’t pay for everyone. You are being used and most of these people sound like free loaders. They should be treating you for the times you’ve treated them. Please stick to your original plan with the one family.
I’m sorry for the loss of your Dad.

Italiangreyhound · 28/02/2022 21:09

I just read your update. Well done. You rock.

You deserve way better.

Thanks
MrsJBaptiste · 28/02/2022 21:12

FFS, I hope this thread doesn't continue for another 350 posts with most people not reading the updates from the OP... Angry

Bethany7 · 28/02/2022 21:14

Well done O.P. for not allowing yourself to be taken advantage of.
Am sorry for your loss and wish you happiness moving forward

downbythewoods · 28/02/2022 21:24

Under no circumstances should you go ahead with this meal. I can't believe you're even considering it. Life is too short to waste with people who make you feel shit, no matter how lonely or isolated you feel. Company like this won't help you feel better, you'll feel worse, because you know you're being taken advantage of, which id terrible for self esteem. Cancel the whole thing, even if they offer to pay. The rude cold shouldering and ignoring is enough of a reason.
I can't believe you are even considering paying for them/ her. No no no no no no no no no no. Get some boundaries, seriously, life is just to short for this shit.

bluepeacock · 28/02/2022 21:30

I just don't get situations like this.

On what planet would anyone be expecting you to pay for them? Who has cheeky fuckers like this for family/friends?

Whenever I get together with family and friends it is always assumed everyone pays for themselves, no matter what the occasion or who has organised it.

I wouldn't be tying myself in knots texting/whatsapping everyone either, I'd just turn up on the day and pay for myself and the original family member you were going to pay for. You don't need to explain a damn thing to anyone.

What are the others going to do: demand you pay for them?? Why would they expect such a ridiculous thing?

KrystalKendal · 28/02/2022 21:56

@MrsJBaptiste

FFS, I hope this thread doesn't continue for another 350 posts with most people not reading the updates from the OP... Angry
Chill out
Hotchic · 01/03/2022 05:20

The best option

Superhanz · 01/03/2022 06:15

You sound absolutely lovely @mogs43. I'm glad you have a family member being kind as the main one you've mentioned doesn't sound particularly nice.

Sorry about the loss of your Dad, I hope you can continue building relationships with the family member who has been kind to you, don't let your want for companionship be taken advantage of by some not well intended people, its better to have a very small circle that you can rely on rather than a large circle of people where most just use you for what they can get. Unfortunately in life some people are just like that! I hope you enjoy your catch up with your nice family member Smile

AlisonDonut · 01/03/2022 06:30

Before I informed everyone I appreciated that it was her birthday and just wanted to check whether she wanted to organise something with them instead? She has just responded saying that it is up to me - she will go along with whatever I decide

I read this thread with jaw open before I signed up here, but this line has me completely baffled. Why is it up to you what she does on her birthday?

I think in future you need to just keep visits low key and let whoever know you are meeting know that you are just planning on meeting them, and them alone. Also stop offering to pay for everything, you are getting yourself into a pickle with it all. Just pay your way in future.

PufferFish · 01/03/2022 06:59

Haven’t had time to read the full thread. If it hasn’t been suggested already, I would send out a mass message asking those that you haven’t invited for a ‘deposit’ and see what transpires.

Coffeepot72 · 01/03/2022 08:14

Before I informed everyone I appreciated that it was her birthday and just wanted to check whether she wanted to organise something with them instead? She has just responded saying that it is up to me - she will go along with whatever I decide

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*I read this thread with jaw open before I signed up here, but this line has me completely baffled. Why is it up to you what she does on her birthday?

Also stop offering to pay for everything, you are getting yourself into a pickle with it all. Just pay your way in future.*

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This just gets more and more strange, I really wonder if there's some weird history the OP isn't telling us? Its very sad that the OP lost her father, but I'm not sure why this led to her paying for so many meals?

Chandimum · 01/03/2022 09:25

@DifficultBloodyWoman

WTF???
  1. Contact EVERYONE with a group email/text/WhatsApp.

Dear all,
First, I want to say that I’m so looking forward to seeing everyone soon and catching up with you.

However, I understand that lots of people have been told I am hosting a dinner at /restaurant name/ on /date/for /x number of people/. That is not the case!

I’m not sure quite how that happened but, unfortunately, I already have plans then and /the restaurant name,/ wouldn’t be able to accommodate so many people at that time anyway.

That said, I really do want to see everyone so please can we make other arrangements? I’m not planning a big party because I really want to spend quality time with you to catch up and I’ve found that just doesn’t happen with a million people around.

Lots of love - Mogs

  1. Then contact your original invitees and tell them it is still on.
  1. Then (optional) contact Cheeky Fucker Birthday Girl and say you’ve no idea how a meal out with her snowballed to you paying for x number of people at a restaurant so you’ve had to email everyone to put a stop to it. Good grief - can she imagine the bill?!? But you’d love to celebrate her birthday with her so she should let you know when and where her party is so you can give her a birthday card.
  1. Have a laugh with everyone about it and point out how ridiculous it is to expect you to foot the enormous bill for a catch up with so many people when you only get to spend. 3 minutes talking with each person. You’d much rather have a cup of tea (at someone’s home ) and a ‘proper chat’.

I suspect that there is more than one cheeky fucker in the group and they will be suitably ashamed of taking advantage of your hospitality in the past. If they grumble about it, they clearly prefer your credit cards to your company.

This!! Particularly stressing to the birthday girl that you're only offering a card! Priceless! Enjoy.
Geranium1984 · 01/03/2022 09:37

I'd cancel the whole visit and tell the birthday girl she can continue with the lunch with everyone if she wanted to or you can cancel the table

Rearrange to visit at a later date and catch up with the original guests in their home and give a voucher and bring along some nice food for lunch or something. Tell them to keep it on the down low so all the CF's don't show up!

Dillydollydingdong · 01/03/2022 09:58

You're a bit of a softie, aren't you? I certainly wouldn't be paying for everybody. Why do they think you're in the chair? Do they think you've won the lottery or inherited some money? I'd let everybody know it's not convenient and you won't be attending (or paying). CF friend) is now organizing it and they should liaise with her.

Fraine · 01/03/2022 10:41

I can see why this happens unfortunately.

I am the youngest of 6 and for some reason it’s expected in my family that I pay for all meals and give gifts, with no expectations of it being reciprocated.

When I stopped paying for meals and days out for all, I was effectively sent to Coventry, with occasional messages. I’m not invited to gatherings at 3 siblings’ homes.

RobertsRadio · 01/03/2022 10:49

Well done Op, you've handled the situation so well, and without fisticuffs😀. Seriously do not meet that family member face to face, if you have to communicate with her again do it via text or email, like you have this time.

I just wanted to say how sorry I am about your Dad and emphasise feeling lonely and lost and wanting company. These feelings are entirely normal, loss of a loved one leaves one feeling very vulnerable and alone and you sort of want to cling to anyone who shows you kindness especially if they knew your Dad because then you have that connection. In time your equilibrium will return and you won't feel quite so desperate about it all, but that will take time, unfortunately you just have to go through these feelings in order to make it out the other side. I am glad you have some decent and kind relatives who want to see you for who you are and not for a free dinner and with whom hopefully you can maintain a close relationship. You sound a lovely and considerate person and I sincerely hope you will be feeling a little stronger by next Christmas. Good luck Flowers.

Fudgemonkeys · 01/03/2022 17:47

So glad you found the strength to cancel and just see the one who showed you kindness. Covid has effected everyone of us, I hope you find ways to bring you joy in the future. 🙏For now, GO YOU!! 🤗

cannockcandy · 01/03/2022 18:17

Don't let her or anyone for that matter, walk over you. Text all of these people suddenly coming out the woodwork. Explain firmly and clearly that the restaurant cannot accommodate everyone and that you will only be meeting specific people there. Explain you are happy to go to another restaurant on another day while you are there but that with recent events you cannot afford to foot the bill for everyone so they will be expected to pay their own way.
If she wants to go on a rant on social media then screenshot all your texts and post them!
Do not let this cf ruin your time back home.
I specifically don't mention to anyone but a select few when I go back home because I can't be dealing with that crap. Xxx

Daverl1980 · 01/03/2022 19:21

@Mogs43 She sounds like a right winner , don’t ever let anyone bully you into paying. She’s a massive CF , I completely empathise with feeling lonely as I feel the same a lot of the time, but at those times it’s easy for CFs to take advantage .

The fact she was involved in a physical fight says it all she needs nicking.

EliyanahM · 02/03/2022 19:10

Tell her no.
Cut this odious woman out of your life.

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