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How do I tactfully handle this situation?

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Mogs43 · 27/02/2022 00:05

I am going to visit my home town soon. I had arranged to meet up with a family member and her children- had offered to pay for a meal (she's been very kind since my lovely father died). Another family member got in touch to say she had heard I was coming and having a meal - could she and her children come? It would be nice for them all to catch up etc I agreed. She then said it was her birthday that week but she would rather come to the meal than arrange something else. I said okay and didn't think anything of it.

She has just texted to say she has invited other family and friends (15 so far!!). I have also received text messages from others (not included in the 15) saying they hear I am around and organising a meal etc..So it could be more!

I have in the past couple of years organised meals etc to mark my fathers death/key anniversaries. I have been happy to pay for them as a sort of memorial to him -it has mostly been really nice to see everyone. However, for the last two events I found that the individual whose birthday it is has 'hijacked' the meal, hardly spoke to me and didn't acknowledge that I paid (I wouldn't normally expect any kind of acknowledgment at all but on the last occasion she physically froze me out and left me sitting at the children's table- I felt completely pathetic : fortunately another family member saw what was happening and insisted that the woman's child move to the children's table so I could sit with the adults). Throughout the meal she hardly spoke to me and at the end said all those with children were going somewhere else for ice cream etc. She left without even asking about the bill and nor did she even once acknowledge that the meal was in memory of my father. I haven't heard from her since - just the recent texts. To be honest. she has hardly been there since my father died. She appears to have money- drives a 4x4, regular plastic surgery, hair and nails - so I dont think she is broke :its just how she operates.

I had just wanted to concentrate on those who have been kind to me but its hard to invite some family and not others? Is that unfair?

I could possibly stretch to paying (although money is very tight) and it would be lovely to see (some of) them but I do resent how this has been done. I feel like a mug. The restaurant that I had originally booked can't accommodate such a large group and to be honest I don't fancy spending hours of my time looking for an alternative venue. I did ask her how one of the people she had invited (who had only just phoned asking to lend money) would be able to afford it. She responded that one extra wouldn't make much difference - that the restaurant would probably offer me a deal for such a large group. She clearly expects me to pay.

The individual is a drama queen who falls out with lots of people and I don't want to create a fuss (everything goes on social media and I couldn't bare all the ' let down on my birthday and I'm a single mum etc'). I would also not like to inconvenience the other family members (especially those I had initially invited). I value their friendship and would like to see them . I could do with the company as, to be honest, since my father died I often feel isolated and lonely.

How can I change this situation: should I say I cant go (but then would I have to cancel my whole weekend) or should I just suck it up? What would you do? Thank you- and sorry if I sound a bit pathetic. I am aware of this.

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HollowTalk · 27/02/2022 07:26

And I don't think you have to do it tactfully either. Why should you when they are treating you like this?

UnsuitableHat · 27/02/2022 07:26

If the meal goes ahead with the increased numbers you need to make it clear who you're paying for and who not. Perhaps (if you know everyone) you could message people individually to clarify this and to ask them to confirm attendance on that basis. Could you even ask for a set contribution per head? Obviously cancelling is another option.

StoppinBy · 27/02/2022 07:27

You really need to just contact the person who invited herself and everyone else and make it clear that there is a misunderstanding on her end, that you never intended to pay for everyone and that you wont be.

Honestly though, I would cancel and reorganise something at a either a different time or different venue with the people you originally wanted to catch up with.

Beseen22 · 27/02/2022 07:29

This situation arises when you are anxious in social situations to make it clear what's acceptable and she has taken advantage of that. It is NOT in any way rude for you to clarify the details of the dinner. You should NOT be feeling social pressure to pay for this meal.

Send a WhatsApp to the group, pick a world buffet or carvery where you pay up front.

'Hi all, looking forward to next Saturday. The meal will be at x farm carvery and it will be £16.99 per adult and £5.99 for kids. Looking forward to seeing you all and celebrate x's birthday together'

autienotnaughty · 27/02/2022 07:33

Why would you be paying? You and one friend were going out as a treat. I'd either back out and rearrange something with first friend separately or if first friend is happy with bigger do go but pay for you and your friend only, leave rest of bill for others to figure out.

Maggie178 · 27/02/2022 07:33

Tell her you can't make that weekend now hope she enjoys her birthday.
Arrange to go a different weekend and meet the actual ppl you originally planned to visit.
She sounds utterly vile.

KindredKeely · 27/02/2022 07:36

The proper way to handle this is bluntly and unambiguously op.

You need to copy and paste one of the short, direct text messages from the suggestions here and reset boundaries.

I'd suggest avoiding the idea of rearranging or telling people you're not paying. Tell them all that you're meeting with your actual invited family and this cheeky cow hijacked it.

Honestly, just tell the truth - she has told everyone something that's not happy and won't be happening.

If you don't do this you're going to have the same situation again. Might as well be now.

Duracellbunnywannabe · 27/02/2022 07:36

@singlepringlenotbychoice

I wouldn't even be tactful. I'd reply back say there's been a misunderstanding, you're not paying, it's getting out of hand and that if she wants a birthday celebration she can organise that with all the extra people and that you're sticking to your original plan. She's a massive CF
I’m with this one but change your planned restaurant for you and your original friend.
Sswhinesthebest · 27/02/2022 07:36

You need to make it explicitly clear that you are not paying.

Lightheartedly text everyone saying you can’t make it now, but perhaps suggest everyone can bring a picnic and all meet in the park over the summer as that will be a better chance to catch up with so many people and keep the kids entertained.

That will change the dynamics of being expected to pay.

NobodysGonnaKnow · 27/02/2022 07:37

So you think the expectation is that you will have to pay for upward of 16 people to have a restaurant meal? That’s going to cost you at least £15 a head, possibly more like £25 a head. Depends how bad a CF they might be. Can you afford over £300? Could you afford £500 for a meal? If so crack on.

Sharrowgirl · 27/02/2022 07:40

@Snog

I think you need to be direct with the birthday friend here. Say you didn't expect for her to invite other people along and ask her to clarify whether individuals will be paying for their meals or if she is expecting you to fund the meal for everyone.

If she says she is expecting you to pay for everyone, tell her you certainly haven't agreed to do that and find it strange that she would think you would want to host and pay for a birthday meal for her and her friends. Suggest she goes ahead with her birthday meal if she wishes but that you will not be attending or paying for it.

Then make a separate new arrangement with family X

This. Be direct, don’t bother with faux-innocence, or passive-agressive messages. Ask her straight out.
rookiemere · 27/02/2022 07:41

I would joint message the two sets of people you originally invited.
"Hi I've been getting messages from xyz that they are coming to lunch on this date. I didn't invite these people and I'm not able to pay for them. Also this restaurant isn't big enough for them.

Please whoever invited them can you let them know that there is no big party.
Friend A - shall I take you somewhere else then PM her another restaurant? Friend B - think this may have got mixed in with your birthday celebrations so shall I let you sort out with your friends. I'll cancel the original reservation. "

ememem84 · 27/02/2022 07:42

Send group WhatsApp and say how kind birthday girl is for organising hosting and treating everyone

EmbarrassedAllOver · 27/02/2022 07:42

Don't pay, they're taking advantage.

I would probably text them something like...

"Hi! I'm looking forward to catching up soon. Just wanted to let you know I've had messages from various people about attending the lunch. As it's getting big I think it may work best if I meet with (family member) seperately as I'd like the opportunity to have a quiet meal and catch up with her properly. So I'll rearrange my original lunch with her on another date.

If you'd like to make the meal we have planned a birthday meal that's absolutely fine, I'd love to attend! I won't be able to pay for anyone else but will obviously bring a treat for the birthday girl 😉

I'll rearrange a date for (family member) now. Look forward to seeing you all!"

Don't let people take advantage of you.

PrinnyPree · 27/02/2022 07:43

@BeckyWithTheGoodHair010101

You reply "what do you mean the restaurant will do me a deal? I'm not going to be paying for everyone" She won't come then. Grin
Say this! Cheeky bitch.

So sorry for your loss OP x

rookiemere · 27/02/2022 07:46

Or actually as the restaurant won't fit everyone. Say to CF "I didn't realise how many folk you'd invited. The restaurant won't fit them all and there seems to be some misunderstanding as I only wanted to pay for relative A and treat you for your birthday- not pay for everyone.

Best if I just catch up with A and you make your own birthday arrangements, and ( if you're feeling kind) I'll send you a cheque to cover the birthday meal for yourself, like I'd originally planned."

bucketsoflove · 27/02/2022 07:49

Sorry you're in this position OP

Who are all these other people expecting you to pay for a meal they were invited to by word of mouth? They're a whole lot of CF if you ask me.

Unless you really do want to see them all at a large gathering (but not pay for it) I would get in touch with the original guests, rearrange to new venue and tell the others there's no meet-up happening.

I'm not usually one to avoid facing up to an issue but if your home town is small and you don't need to go that particular weekend I think I'd be tempted to cancel the entire visit to avoid all the drama. Then you can quietly arrive another time and catch up with those you want to see.

hellithurt · 27/02/2022 07:51

Hi X, couple of things I need to clear up. Firstly the restaurant can only accommodate x amount, so you'll need to ensure your guests don't exceed that number. Secondly, whilst I've previously generously paid for the meal, this year it's everyone paying for themselves, I'm sure you understand that as the event is expanding my purse isn't.

See you on the xxx date.

Flickflak · 27/02/2022 07:52

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SarahBellam · 27/02/2022 07:52

“Dear CF, thank you for the invitation. I can’t make your birthday party now, but hope you all have a great time.” Deliberately misunderstand her because that’s what she’s done to you.

Tell your friend that you don’t want to go to the birthday party but you do want to see her and her family separately and see what she comes up with. You don’t have to resolve this yourself.

sweetbellyhigh · 27/02/2022 07:53

Oh boy that's just awful.

What do you really want to do? Just have dinner with the original family member and children? Revert to that.

WhatsApp the others and say look as much as it'd be lovely to see you all you're not going to be able to do the dinner after lol but next time.
Just go with the ones you want to.

And definitely stop paying for the others/everyone, you really don't have to

UniversalAunt · 27/02/2022 07:56

The easiest & most straight forward thing to do is cancel the whole event or as pps have said send your apologies now. It is non-negotiable. There can be no misunderstanding or wheedling round that by anyone. You will have immediate relief from your dilemma.

Before the next step, you need to resolve a few things.

How did news the you were going out for lunch with the original family get round? Obviously the family grapevine. One casual comment by one person went round like wildfire that @Mogs43 is in town & there is free food & drink is flowing.

You need to break the family expectation that you are the source of free banquets. There may be a low slung assumption that you are loaded because of an inheritance.

One of our family has a business here, went to home country for extended work visit & met with distant family. He went out for dinner with them & when the bill came they looked to him. He paid on his credit card & reasonably expected to be paid back. When I visited host family years later, the story was still circulating about the paid for meal only it had been embellished with some grumbles thrown in. I know how generous my relative is so I took it all with a pinch of salt. When I spoke with him, he said how much he regretted his generosity as the bill was outrageous, trashed his budget & he’s never heard from them since. Lesson learned about picking up the tab: it comes at a literal cost, your goodwill is misinterpreted, recollections of your generosity may vary & your pleasure fades with time.

Explain to the original family group that you have had to cancel as everything got out of control & is too £££, that the plan for a nice meal with them was a specific invitation as a treat from you to show your appreciation. It was never meant as an open invitation. Let the penny drop.

If they get how specific your generosity was then rearrange a dinner date at another place. If this not possible on their part, e.g. everyone must be invited, then let the whole matter go & chalk it up to experience.

It’s understandable that you feel some loneliness after your loss & as you are generous, you like to treat people to show your appreciation. But you need to guard yourself when you are vulnerable from being taken advantage of, particularly when you are splashing cash. Some discretion on your part when treating people is required. Particularly with family where there are CFs around who hoover up other people’s goodwill & £££, & as instance throw in their birthday so that they get a free jolly playing upon your generosity & possible embarrassment.

Some family dynamics hinge on everyone being treated fairly all the time otherwise there may be a war of attrition. Whereas we know that being treated fairly does not mean being treated the same, some people just cannot understand this so there is a blanket rule of no individual consideration when it comes to treats or spends.

Hope you get to enjoy a nice time at a special meal with your family.

florianfortescue · 27/02/2022 07:57

There is absolutely no need to be tactful in this situation. She is being incredibly rude.

Personally I would pull out of the whole thing - just text the birthday girl and say "unfortunately I can't make it any more, hope you have fun!" and let her pay the bill herself. Then have a separate conversation with your nice friend so you can arrange an alternative catch up at a different time.

Dguu6u · 27/02/2022 08:08

Don’t be such a pushover! Tell her she’s not coming and just invite the people you wanted there originally. I can’t believe you’ve not told her yet to do one.

Metalguru22 · 27/02/2022 08:12

If you do any half measures, like for example putting a limit on numbers and saying they pay for their own, it will backfire on you. At the very least the CF will leave without paying.
Hi CF. I think this is getting a bit out of hand, bearing in mind it started out with me going for a meal with X. So I'm messaging everyone who I know was planning to go now to tell them I'm cancelling. The restaurant wouldn't have been able to fit them in anyway and somehow there seemed to be some misunderstanding that I was going to pay for you all. I suggest that you arrange your own birthday celebration, we'll get together another time.

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