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would your DS join up

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mariamari2 · 25/02/2022 22:51

Hypothetical but if you have a DS aged 16-25 would they join up in the event of the government requesting volunteers to go and fight in Ukraine. If they did would you try and stop them. I have hear stories about so many young men in Ukraine volunteering and it got me wondering what would young British men do?

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alltheapples · 25/02/2022 23:32

If tanks were rolling down your local high street, surely people would have to fight?

RJnomore1 · 25/02/2022 23:36

I have daughters but, I’d be proud if they chose to fight for our freedom. And yes I’d go myself if we were in the situation Ukraine is.

If our ancestors had not stepped up, goodness knows what would have happened in previous wars. I’m a pacifist at heart; I hate violence; but neither could I sit back and watch other people be subdued while I did nothing.

BeforeGodAndAllTheFish · 25/02/2022 23:37

@Quincythequince

You asked what that poster meant by saying Ireland is neutral. I'm guessing they meant that ireland wont be joining this fight unless it's hits our shores.

Not neutral like the Swiss, but I'm guessing she meant they're not in Nato so their citizens wont be called on as early as ours. If it comes to that.

Clymene · 25/02/2022 23:37

No. Thankfully they would be exempt

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Justkeeppedaling · 25/02/2022 23:44

What about DDs? There's No sed discrimination these days. Our DDs will get conscripted along side our DSs.

alltheapples · 25/02/2022 23:46

10% of Ukrainian army is women.

BeforeGodAndAllTheFish · 25/02/2022 23:53

@Justkeeppedaling

What about DDs? There's No sed discrimination these days. Our DDs will get conscripted along side our DSs.
Probably not. Or at least, it wont be a blanket policy.

Women are still overwhelmingly the main care giver to children and the elderly. They cannot conscript women the same way as they did with men during the world wars.

Theyll be the protected industries, but there will also need to be protected status for caregivers or some other solution of what to do with children and elderly. But if they conscript millions of women as well as men, then what happens to kids and elderly?

People have to stay available home to work in essential industries. People have to stay available to care for children.

Chloemol · 25/02/2022 23:58

You do realise women fight as well

alltheapples · 26/02/2022 00:00

They would do what the US did with Vietnam. Young men first, nowadays women as well - without kids under 18. Then older ones without kids under 18 - 19 and 20-year-olds are better fighters than 58 and 59-year-olds. Then with those with teenagers 1 adult in the couple, then 1 adult with younger kids.

Pumpkinstace · 26/02/2022 00:02

If tanks are rolling down our high street the war is probably already lost at that point.

Gasfire · 26/02/2022 00:03

Well, if mumsnet is representative of the whole country, most of the dc would have asd, adhd, dyspraxia or anxiety, so wouldn't be eligible anyway.

Rest easy.

Lollypop701 · 26/02/2022 00:05

My dh would go first, and honestly me next. my ds is 18 and bloody inept compared to me same age. I wouldn’t want him to go but I’m bloody sorry Ukrainians don’t want to either. I really don’t want a world war, but I don’t think sanctions have gone far enough

Harmam2020 · 26/02/2022 00:06

Yes my 16 yr old son told me yesterday he would sign up if they got as close as east Germany, to help protect the U.K. and joining the forces have never really been on the cards until now.

PerditaPerdita · 26/02/2022 00:06

Under no circumstances would I allow my son to go.

An entirely pointless loss of life.

Someone else's fight.

No way.

CPL593H · 26/02/2022 00:07

Why DS not DS/DD? It is 2022. OK, this week feels more like the '40s, but still.

DearlyBeloathed · 26/02/2022 00:18

Under no circumstances would I allow my son to go

Why would it be your choice?

AledsiPad · 26/02/2022 00:30

So he says… but he is 15. He thinks he knows everything and understands this war far more than anyone else. He thinks he will live forever. No way on earth would I allow it.

His great grandfather (my grandad) lied about his age and joined up at 16. I remember how broken he was, despite surviving.

Yeahthat · 26/02/2022 01:05

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ChaoticWoman · 26/02/2022 01:11

Mines already in the army and has been since 18. (22 now) same age nephew is also in the army and has been since he was 20.

Very proud of them both but worried

ChaoticWoman · 26/02/2022 01:12

And not just because of Ukraine. Worried full stop

AuntTwacky · 26/02/2022 01:12

@mariamari2

Hypothetical but if you have a DS aged 16-25 would they join up in the event of the government requesting volunteers to go and fight in Ukraine. If they did would you try and stop them. I have hear stories about so many young men in Ukraine volunteering and it got me wondering what would young British men do?
It's not going to happen
elliejjtiny · 26/02/2022 01:15

I hope not. Ds1 is the only one of mine who is old enough but he also has asd so am hoping he would be exempt anyway.

Toocooltoboogie · 26/02/2022 01:22

Yeahthat
So he'd sit at home and expect others to fight for him and his family? If so, I'd hope someone would beat him senseless.

Christ calm down. Its a hypothetical question.

SmellyOldOwls · 26/02/2022 01:24

@Gasfire

Well, if mumsnet is representative of the whole country, most of the dc would have asd, adhd, dyspraxia or anxiety, so wouldn't be eligible anyway.

Rest easy.

But what about all the strapping 6ft + young men with hollow legs? They'll be perfect for the army surely, although I hope they'll have access to at least a full loaf daily, and an entire fruit bowl.