would your DS join up

[mariamari2]

Hypothetical but if you have a DS aged 16-25 would they join up in the event of the government requesting volunteers to go and fight in Ukraine. If they did would you try and stop them. I have hear stories about so many young men in Ukraine volunteering and it got me wondering what would young British men do?

Why only sons? Lots of women in the army, would anyone's daughter want to fight for, not even Ukraine, but their own country?

Sorry, seen it answered

But yes there are women in the Ukrainian army

I'm a single mum so I wouldn't go out fighting if it means leaving my child. I would want to he with her. If I had to defend her, of course I would.

I've seen this around on twitter, Instagram, Facebook etc. It's a joke but I sort of have the same sentiment. I don't want to be drafted the same as men.

Not that I would be, due to health reasons.

Not to be soilders no. Thankfully my children would volunteer as medics or for aid deliveries but would never commit murder even if it was state sanctioned. Borders are fake human creations it's about time more humans said no to war.

I don't have DC but I would fight for the UK and Finland in whatever way a 52 year old could.

I'm half-Finnish and have many relatives who died fighting Russia, including my grandfather and great-grandfather. I was brought up to be proud of this, that you don't roll over, you fucking go down fighting.

inews.co.uk/news/world/russia-ukraine-women-volunteers-enlist-ukrainian-army-russia-invasion-threat-escalates-1442651

15% of the Ukrainian army was made up of women before this invasion. There will be more volunteering.

Totally different issues.

1. Signing up to.defend the country your living in from attack that is taking place now.
2. Sign up to defend someone else's country

If your asking if we lived in Ukraine and my adult children - women and men wanted to sign up to defend their country. I would go with what they wanted to do. It's not my place to dictate my grown up childrens decisions.

Thankfully my children would volunteer as medics or for aid deliveries but would never commit murder even if it was state sanctioned

I’ve raised mine to all be pacifists so I highly doubt it.

My children are far too young (and we are in NI and have Irish passports), but I can't imagine the horror of conscription. If it came to it I suppose we would all have to do what was needed.

Signing up to fight in Ukraine - no. If it was happening here and we needed to defend our county then probably yes.

Although I would volunteer before him as I can actually load a gun and am not a bad shot.

I was somewhat and surprised when on Thursday, ie. Day 1 of the invasion, ds started talking to me about the possibly of conscription. He was adamant he didn’t want to do it.

(Not sure how he would have felt if it were the UK being invaded).

Would your DD join up?

Men are a different breed in Ukraine. I doubt many young men here would be brave enough to sign up for hand to hand combat.

@Onlyforcake

Not to be soilders no. Thankfully my children would volunteer as medics or for aid deliveries but would never commit murder even if it was state sanctioned. Borders are fake human creations it's about time more humans said no to war.

Lol

I wonder if it would all seem like a "fake human creation" if Russian (or Chinese) soldiers were marching in with kill lists, in order to install a puppet government.

Borders are fake - if you're happy to be governed by anyone. You can have your toxic passivity, until someone stronger decides to march in and take over.

The only reason people like yourself can fart around with such naive and stupid ideas is because other people are prepared to do the hard work which enables you to live with such a self-indulgent and decadent mindset.

@StormBaby

Same goes for you.

@Onlyforcake what a horrible way to put it - ‘commit murder’. DH has been to Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, and who knows where next. DF was in the Falklands. Nobody comes back from these places unaffected by the things they have seen or done, but they are putting their lives on the line for the freedom of others. Don’t tar them with the ‘committing murder’ brush while you enjoy the comforts and freedoms of the life indirectly provided to you by those who have committed said murders.

He wouldn't want to and he carries an epi-pen which appears to disqualify him.

Why just DS what about DDs... I think people forget equality at times like this !

I think Ukraine has quite a large number of women in their military

But what we have seen on tv is young men declaring that they will fight for their country and returning to fight for their country

It’s not about equality it’s what is being reported

The only reason people like yourself can fart around with such naive and stupid ideas is because other people are prepared to do the hard work which enables you to live with such a self-indulgent and decadent mindset

Bang on.

I think we are certainly privileged in this country that we can choose to be pacifists

That isn’t really a choice in many other countries (unless your money allows you to be)

My ds is 20 and very worked up about the whole thing, but I'm not sure his mental health would allow him in the forces at the moment, he's had a tough couple of years.

If it were our country I'd find it very hard. My kids are 18 (dd2), 20 (ds) and 22 (dd1). Personally I'd be most afraid of dd2, she's little but fierce! I've been a pacifist all my life and would find my children fighting to be awful beyond thinking. My dh is 51 and a doctor, so likely they'd want him too. If we lived in Ukraine id be set to lose them all. I'm so badly disabled I wouldn't make it to a bomb shelter without them to help me.

I don't pray much any more, but I'm praying for Ukraine right now. And for the brave Russians who are out on the street protesting the war.