Drag Queen at a Primary School - continuation thread here - https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4490413-Drag-Queen-at-a-Primary-School-Thread-2?watched=1

[Lennyllama]

What are your views on a drag queen visiting a primary school for the day? Think thigh high leather boots with short revealing dresses and a dance show. The drag queen spent the day at school. Did a show for KS2 and then went around to individual classes to read a story book. The school had a themed dress up day. The theme was This is Me. Parents were not informed that this would be happening and were not given the option to opt in or out of the experience. The school has a very diverse mix of cultures and religions. This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

YANBU- It’s inappropriate
YABU- It’s appropriate

I have name changed for this.

Surely it's better to educate them that clothes aren't gendered, and you can wear/be/do anything regardless of your sex, than to invite to school an adult entertainer whose act is mired in misogyny?

Absolutely but most places do this anyway and it doesn’t have much of an impact, especially if you’ve got parents at home saying the opposite.

We have an issue with lots of kids coming out as transgender.

Some of which are true and I fully support and I’m glad we’re slowly getting rid of the stigma behind it but many are just confused and can easily get caught up in something that they find hard to get out of.

If this is the schools way of showing the kids look you can enjoy make up and clothes not designed for your gender but it doesn’t mean you were born in the wrong body - then surely that’s a positive thing.

I wish you'd read the whole thread as opposed to rereading the OP.

Following the details of attire, the name used and the clear lack of safeguarding awareness by posting children's photos online. Its quite clear this is not the op "stirring the pot" its called safeguarding and its part of being a parent.

There's a thread or two on here about that.

If nobody has found them, and their screenshots, I'll have a look when I get back home.

I'd be furious. That the school thought it was appropriate in the first place and that there was no prior notice given, and hence no opportunity to discuss, complain or remove your child.
Drag is completely inappropriate for children. I'd be very angry if my children's school introduced an over-sexualised stereotyped regressive caricature of women, in any context. I don't understand why it's still deemed ok to create a persona stereotyping and mocking women in this way, when I think everyone understands by now that it's not ok to do it about any other group of people.

If this is the schools way of showing the kids look you can enjoy make up and clothes not designed for your gender but it doesn’t mean you were born in the wrong body - then surely that’s a positive thing

So why not invite a transman and a transwoman into school to meet with kids?

Why drag?

I would be livid this is wholly inappropriate for children and I can't see how this teaches the message "this is me" when drag is literally a costume.

Safeguarding.

It's just so old fashioned.

Those comparing DQs to pantomime dames - can you really not see the difference?

@Casheeeew

Re-read Op. It's too hard to believe. I'm guessing the DQ invited is actually child friendly performer and OP is just trying to stir the pot.

Have you seen the outfit the DQ was wearing?

It's utterly ridiculous. They're trying to be edgy and 'woke', and I'd be writing a formal letter of complaint to the governors.

If the school wants to challenge traditional stereotyped notions of gender, why not get a male nurse or a female firefighter to come in and talk to the kids?

We have an issue with lots of kids coming out as transgender.

Gee, I wonder why that is? 🤨

So why not invite a transman and a transwoman into school to meet with kids?

Because a drag queen doesn’t identify as a women.
There’s a massive difference.

The school have done this to show you don’t have to change your gender just to wear certain clothes.

I’m sure they support transgender people too but I do think it’s good they’ve not just focused on that.

I wouldn’t mind

I dont agree with the whole "woman face" thing but drag is adult entertainment and shouldnt be in primary schools which should be looking atless sexualised ways to break down gender stereotypes.

Womanface, but on the right side of history, apparently. I'd be furious. We should not be reinforcing misogyny and stereotypes in this way.

@WonderfulYou - well even if that is the message it’s only a message for boys isn’t it? What message is there in this for girls?? The message for girls in drag is that you don’t even exist in the drag world…

[quote Lennyllama]@rolypolydoly Oh my word! Do you have a link?[/quote]

Hope this works:

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1496464660710981636?s=21

What's a Pantomime Dame if not a drag queen? Doesn't stop me taking my kids to a Panto. I wouldn't bother me at all.

What's different is the sexualised content of drag shows. Have you ever been to one?
A pantomime dame- is dressed in sort of Victoraian frocks and overlaid with wigs makeup etc but not sexualised storiotypical female clothing .. not very progressive image of women.
picture is a drag event in a library for kids, King County WA USA for 10+ ages.

What everyone else said with bells on. This is utter woke BS and completely in appropriate for primary school (or secondary school). Drag acts are adult entertainment- they're highly sexualised, and also misogynistic. Why anyone thinks primary school children should be exposed to that is beyond me. And it's NOT transphobic to say so.....

Would they get a female stripper in, dressed in her work clothes, to read a story?!

@Lennyllama

This was the outfit the DQ wore to dance and read books to the younger children.

I would be complaining.

I think it's kind of hard to get a real sense of what the school was actually doing from this thread. We can't actually know and context is everything. In theory, and with a bit more communication about what the school was actually doing, I wouldn't instantly be frothy mouthed about this.

Even calling it "This is me" is dreadful for a school as the correct grammar is "This is I".