Drag Queen at a Primary School - continuation thread here - https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4490413-Drag-Queen-at-a-Primary-School-Thread-2?watched=1

[Lennyllama]

What are your views on a drag queen visiting a primary school for the day? Think thigh high leather boots with short revealing dresses and a dance show. The drag queen spent the day at school. Did a show for KS2 and then went around to individual classes to read a story book. The school had a themed dress up day. The theme was This is Me. Parents were not informed that this would be happening and were not given the option to opt in or out of the experience. The school has a very diverse mix of cultures and religions. This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

YANBU- It’s inappropriate
YABU- It’s appropriate

I have name changed for this.

It isn't diversity at all because it's always Drag Queens.
It's just grooming & about breaking down childrens boundaries to leave them more vulnerable to predatory adults.

It's never a blind child musician or an elderly mountaineer, or a wheelchair bound athlete, or a gender critical lesbian busker, or a refugee from somewhere there is a war on right now (all of whom if they did turn up would probably be expected to do it for free).

It's always some Drag Queen who usually has an online presence & stage name that are appropriate anywhere near children & they get paid to do this.
How a school has the nerve to ask for donations when they are paying Drag Queens instead of buying pencils with that money I don't know.

It's not even remotely diverse when only one group (who are hardly the majority of the population) & I can see no good reason why children should be intentionally forced to acclimatise to Drag Queens.

I'm really not comfortable with the new attitude in schools of forcibly exposing children to all sorts of sex related topics while hiding them from the parents of those children.

I actually enjoy going to live drag queen shows, but having one at a school wouldn't sit well with me at all.

@Casheeeew

Re-read Op. It's too hard to believe. I'm guessing the DQ invited is actually child friendly performer and OP is just trying to stir the pot.

Why is it too hard to believe? Our local Waterstones had a Drag Storytime last year, where some big bloke turned up in Ann Summers cheapo suspenders and read a story to whatever utter fuckwits decided to take their kids along to it.

I wish I could find the photo of the guy, it was shocking. I posted it here at the time I'm sure.

@Movingonup22

1. it’s more acceptable for girls to dress in ‘male’ clothing.

I’ve never heard of a girl getting assaulted by their parents or strangers for wearing trousers or a hoodie but many boys would if they wore something ‘feminine’.

1. I can guarantee they speak about women’s rights etc but it’s not possible to bring someone in every time they’re trying to make a point.

I’m sure they have plenty of visits throughout the year of women doing masculine jobs.

Dislike drag in general as it’s so often sexist.

Women (however we look or dress) are rarely invited to do these kinds of things.

Some of the men who enjoy drag get a sexual kick from it. Not appropriate in a school!

If this is the schools way of showing the kids look you can enjoy make up and clothes not designed for your gender but it doesn’t mean you were born in the wrong body - then surely that’s a positive thing.

Then they could have done it with a less sexualised individual! Any transwoman, any transman could have given the same message, without all the sequins, glitter, exposed skin and unsuitable SM presence.

When you look at what some professors are saying in and around universities this is just a drop in the ocean of propaganda being poured on children.

It's as if pie has suddenly become the norm acceptable and even beneficial, it's a sad old world

It's funny how lesbians are never invited to these kind of events to read stories to children isn't it? If you truly wanted to raise awareness of diversity and LGBT people (rather than just virtue signal and try to look cool) why wouldn't you do that?
Diversity only ever seems to be celebrated and shown to children in one particular way.

Personally I dislike drag and wouldn’t dream of going to a show, so the thought of that happening at school is gross.

If I went - autocorrect FFS

One PP said this was "nice". It is in fact the absolute opposite of nice, which as well as meaning pleasurable also has the meanings of fitting and appropropriate. As well as subtle. How is forcing sexualised parodies of women down small childen's throats "nice"?

I personally hate drag but accept that it is a valid form of adult entertainment which has a long and complex history. I also accept that stripping and live sex acts are valid forms of adult entertainment which have long and complex histories. They had better not be provided in my child's school.

@Lemonyfuckit

Would they get a female stripper in, dressed in her work clothes, to read a story?!

Cos that ain't no Modern Emperor in His New Sexy Clothes.

It's a boring old (can I say a tart?) of the female persuasion.

Somehow sex and sexualisaton doesn't count when it's a man in sequins, or very nearly not, as the case may be!

The only reason parents aren't told is to deny them choice.

@SexyLittleNosferatu - where is this video? I can't find it

It has already been linked - on page 2 I think - the guy is called Kitty Demure.

Let's drag down girls' expectations and encourage misogyny why don't we! Horrible.

Lily Savage for adults and a traditional Panto are OK on stage, at a distance.
NOT in a school and close-up.

[quote Movingonup22]@WonderfulYou - well even if that is the message it’s only a message for boys isn’t it? What message is there in this for girls?? The message for girls in drag is that you don’t even exist in the drag world…[/quote]
Well, you do exist in Drag World if you're a girl. As an object of grotesque parody.

[quote WonderfulYou]@Movingonup22

1. it’s more acceptable for girls to dress in ‘male’ clothing.

I’ve never heard of a girl getting assaulted by their parents or strangers for wearing trousers or a hoodie but many boys would if they wore something ‘feminine’.

1. I can guarantee they speak about women’s rights etc but it’s not possible to bring someone in every time they’re trying to make a point.

I’m sure they have plenty of visits throughout the year of women doing masculine jobs.[/quote] Hmm. Funny how it's always MEN who are the only acceptable messengers.

Men in drag have their place, I guess, but school isn't one of them.

I would not be happy with this, drag is adult entertainment, the outfit is wholly inappropriate for a school setting and its just a really lazy way of inclusion and diversity in schools.

I noticed on a family festivals schedule we as a family are attending in the summer there's DQST on the kids list, I'll be avoiding that like the plague.

What's next, sending sex workers and strippers in for careers days?

Not primary schools thankfully, but in universities yes, for girls, marketed as a great way to pay their tuition fees, sickening.

The school have done this to show you don’t have to change your gender just to wear certain clothes

But the only people who dress like this out and about are drag Queens.

I'd be furious so I think YANBU! This is becoming more and more common an occurrence and I think parents need to get together to put a stop to it or children will be made vulnerable to predation and at least, loose some of their innocence.
I also do think there is evidence of a creeping agenda to sexualise children at an earlier and earlier age, using the LGBT and especially now, the Trans agenda, as an "in" and an excuse, because then when people object, they can cast the usual slurs at them! If I had young kids at that school, I wouldn't care what names they called me, I would be causing uproar over it! Childhood is short, kid's innocence is precious. They need to be protected from this creeping sexualisation. It's motives are malevolent. Raise Hell about it OP!

I’m a fan of drag but no way is this appropriate. Drag is for adults (see also: Ant and Dec dragging up), not children.

If all primary school teachers turned up to work tomorrow dressed like the dq ( male and female) I wonder if the governors and HT's would comment.

Think they might.