Drag Queen at a Primary School - continuation thread here - https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4490413-Drag-Queen-at-a-Primary-School-Thread-2?watched=1

[Lennyllama]

What are your views on a drag queen visiting a primary school for the day? Think thigh high leather boots with short revealing dresses and a dance show. The drag queen spent the day at school. Did a show for KS2 and then went around to individual classes to read a story book. The school had a themed dress up day. The theme was This is Me. Parents were not informed that this would be happening and were not given the option to opt in or out of the experience. The school has a very diverse mix of cultures and religions. This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

YANBU- It’s inappropriate
YABU- It’s appropriate

I have name changed for this.

Actually what's pissed me off about the DQ's social post about the school visit is him saying that the kids made him feel loved and appreciated.

It really isn't the kids job to do that?! Isn't he there to give something to them - it's just yet another way in which we all have to applaud these men. For dressing like us. Which, we're often told, is what gets us raped and killed.

@Bintymcbintface

That was in response to saying that teachers wouldn't be allowed to wear what the DQ did... That's because they're held to uniform standards and dress codes in their place of employment, like millions of others all over the country... If you're in tesco you don't have to wear their uniform just like the DQ doesn't have to conform to the school's dress code when they're visiting, like the parents too i guess

There are no safeguarding issues involved in who enters a supermarket though. Schools have different standards. Anyone invited in as a guest in a primary school is deemed to have the approval of the school.

As far as I'm aware, when my DC were at school and now my DGC, whenever there's a 'special' day with people coming in to do extra curricular stuff it's flagged up and the parents and children know about it in advice,

Why not this time?

@Nanny0gg

As far as I'm aware, when my DC were at school and now my DGC, whenever there's a 'special' day with people coming in to do extra curricular stuff it's flagged up and the parents and children know about it in advice,

Why not this time?

Yes agreed it seems a little odd.
I actually presumed that it had been organised last minute when I saw it on social media at my kids school.
Now it's happened at other schools too in a similar manner it's making me wonder if it's something more insidious.

I'm sure all those arguing that performers of sexualised adult content are integral to the National Curriculum are totally winning over the lurkers with their reasoned debate.

Can the school explain why a This Is Me day involves a guest doing the exact opposite- pretending to be someone else?

@Bintymcbintface

The DQ didn't have everything all hanging out, they wore a sparkly dress... See through clothing and chilling in your underwear in the middle of waterstones would get you pulled and rightly so.

It's not because it's a man that they're getting away with it, there's nothing to get away with because they aren't doing anything wrong

What? So you're saying it's not okay to hang out in see through clothing in Waterstones, but it's just fine to do that in a primary school?

Could you talk me through your thinking, here?

I'm confused. Dolly Trolley hasn't posted on twitter since 2017? Only references I can see to her / primary school on twitter is references to this thread

He posted on Facebook yesterday

@Squidgames4U Instagram? Facebook?

The DQ wasn't wearing see through clothing, they had a sparkly dress the pic is somewhere further back in the comments and they had several different outfit changes. Nowhere says the dress was see through nor does it say that they actually did or said anything risqué or inappropriate with the head even saying it was a lovely show. There's a world of difference between an invited guest doing a performance in a sparkly costume and wandering about with your bits on show in public

you shouldn't be surprised if they get a transvestite in to speak to your children?

Ok, so forget drag for one minute, for this comment... Because transvestitism is not just drag...

I wouldn't care if a transvestite came in. As far as I'm aware that term is just an outdated way of saying "cross-dresser". If someone came into school, who was a man and wore dresses, to give a speech about, say, how clothes are for anyone and they can wear whatever they like, that wouldn't be a bad thing. Actually that would fit "this is me" as it would be someone wearing what they want despite society telling them it's wrong and they should "be a real man".

Transvestite is not synonymous with drag or with autogynephilia and kink. It's literally just someone who wears clothes unhindered by stereotypes, or maybe even just prefers the clothes for the other sex. And they were thought of as weird and deviant because why would a man want to wear women's clothes? Must be nefarious.

Taking issue with someone for being a transvestite/cross-dresser (if what they are wearing is appropriate!!!) just reinforces sex stereotypes.

I wouldn't even say a drag queen is a "transvestite" as they don't live their everyday lives wearing women's clothes etc, it's an act.

But no, what would be the issue with a cross-dresser specially, if they were talking about how you don't have to be confined to traditional clothes for your sex? Boys are still shamed for wanting to wear princess dresses ffs.

This is the outfit worn... Shows a bit of leg and loads of sparkles, no massive comedy boobs, no exposed anything, how is this offensive or inappropriate for a performer?

[quote Lennyllama]@Squidgames4U Instagram? Facebook?[/quote]
Twitter was specifically mentioned though. And she hadn't posted since 2017. Hence my comment.

@Nanny0gg

As far as I'm aware, when my DC were at school and now my DGC, whenever there's a 'special' day with people coming in to do extra curricular stuff it's flagged up and the parents and children know about it in advice,

Why not this time?

Well, from the reaction on this thread it's pretty obvious they'd have had almost no kids in class that day, which could have left the school in an awkward position - and we can't have that can we?

Well you may think that's an acceptable outfit for a grown man to wear on school grounds, but it is 100% obvious that if this person wasn't a drag artist, and just turned up at the gates like that to collect the kids, or if a female teacher dressed like that for example, the response would be wildly different.

So tell me why we should treat drag acts as inherently good and safe for schools, in a way that no other ordinary citizen gets treated?

As has already been said... That dress is see through and is one of a number if outfits worn. OP posted one of the other outfits upthread.

If you have to repeatedly ignore what actually happened you really don't have much to say that is worth reading.

I've seen parents dressed WAY worse than that for school pick up! Only time there has been an issue was a mum, literally, in a strappy vest top and knickers!

Yeah. Sure you did, aye!

@Squidgames4U

I've seen parents dressed WAY worse than that for school pick up! Only time there has been an issue was a mum, literally, in a strappy vest top and knickers!

Things that never happened number 43

Did you see the picture I posted, please tell me how they're horribly exposed in that outfit, the other pics were other DQs like the monkey or the person in the jumpsuit with the unfortunate cock outline. The picture the OP posted was of that outfit above...