Drag Queen at a Primary School - continuation thread here - https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4490413-Drag-Queen-at-a-Primary-School-Thread-2?watched=1

[Lennyllama]

What are your views on a drag queen visiting a primary school for the day? Think thigh high leather boots with short revealing dresses and a dance show. The drag queen spent the day at school. Did a show for KS2 and then went around to individual classes to read a story book. The school had a themed dress up day. The theme was This is Me. Parents were not informed that this would be happening and were not given the option to opt in or out of the experience. The school has a very diverse mix of cultures and religions. This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

YANBU- It’s inappropriate
YABU- It’s appropriate

I have name changed for this.

Why does one have to dress up as a gross parody of women to read stories to kids?

I think most people are missing something here.

Same goes for you too eee. It's a little scary that some people like yourself are so insistent that it's just fine for DC to be exposed to sexist stereotyping, in addition to being so keen to downplay and dismiss the undeniable sexual elements
Wearing a dress and high heels and a wig and reading a story.
Not getting how that's sinister.
If were putting on an adult show, absolutely, we'd be on the same page opinion wise.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

Do beekeepers perform adult entertainment now? confused

Where has the drag queen in the OP done that for kids?!

Keep up! It’s only a few posts back.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

Same goes for you too eee. It's a little scary that some people like yourself are so insistent that it's just fine for DC to be exposed to sexist stereotyping, in addition to being so keen to downplay and dismiss the undeniable sexual elements Wearing a dress and high heels and a wig and reading a story. Not getting how that's sinister. If were putting on an adult show, absolutely, we'd be on the same page opinion wise.

Exactly! Drag isn't all sexualised nor is it making a mockery of women, they acknowledge that they mostly look ridiculous, laugh about it themselves and rip the bag out of men! From what it seems this DQ wore an above the knee sparkly dress, no huge fake boobs from what I could see and thigh high boots, fs people wear those doing shopping, they don't look slutty strutting around tesco they look like their legs are warm

I believe they're asking where the DQ from the OP did an adult performance for children

@Bintymcbintface

I believe they're asking where the DQ from the OP did an adult performance for children

Then I suggest they answer my question first, without chucking in red herrings.

do beekeepers perform adult entertainment now?

believe they're asking where the DQ from the OP did an adult performance for children
Yes, was asking where the OP said it was an adult performance? As missed it if so, doesn't seem to say a few pages back, happy to be corrected though if so

do beekeepers perform adult entertainment now?

No.

Where has the OP's drag queen done an adult act for the Children?
Now answer mine.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

believe they're asking where the DQ from the OP did an adult performance for children Yes, was asking where the OP said it was an adult performance? As missed it if so, doesn't seem to say a few pages back, happy to be corrected though if so

And it's still not relevant! You are trying to bog us down in minutiae of what this drag queen may have done at one school.

You brought up beekeepers and seemed confused at why the beekeeping profession might be treated differently to drag queens.

So I ask, do beekeepers perform adult entertainment?

@EeeICouldRipATissue

do beekeepers perform adult entertainment now?

No.

Where has the OP's drag queen done an adult act for the Children?
Now answer mine.

We don't know. We do know that This particular queen is easily found online, the kids were told their stage name and their content is rather steamy.

You seem certain the kids will have loved it. So now, any kid who loved it and who has access to an ipad has been signposted to that content.

Which is what kids do. An author came to child's school and gave a talk about her books. My child searched for her website to read extracts from her children's books. Drumming up enthusiasm for reading is fine.

Do we want to direct children to recordings of adult drag routines?

Now do you see why beekeepers aren't the same as drag queens, or are you going to ponder whether we'd think a visiting vet was different?

P.S. if you don't like my "tone" you could always try apologising for trying to sexually shame me for noticing the noticeable bulge on those photos.

You could also acknowledge that even if I had had to zoom in, these photos are a visual record of a children's event. Children are pictured in the audience, in front of the stage.

If you can see it when zooming, that means the children actually present a few feet away saw it with no difficulty whatsoever.

You brought up beekeepers
Just to be clear, it wasn't me who brought up beekeepers

Sod it, let’s just not give a toss about what kids are exposed to in school, GG, scouts, church, etc.

It’s all totally harmless.

Must remember to tell my friend, who’s hosting a sleepover for 8 year-olds at the weekend, that it’s absolutely fine for her husband to chuck on some thigh high boots, a skimpy dress, a naff wig and some makeup. Am sure they’ll all have a ball and no parent would worry. The fact that he’s a farmer should help alleviate any niggling doubts.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

You brought up beekeepers Just to be clear, it wasn't me who brought up beekeepers

But you did support the comment. No wriggling away from that.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

You brought up beekeepers Just to be clear, it wasn't me who brought up beekeepers

Ah, you just parroted it, in between trying to imply that having safeguarding concerns was evidence that I was sexually deviant?

We're talking about children's wellbeing. The stakes are too high for playground chants of "he who smelt it, dealt it".

@Furries

Sod it, let’s just not give a toss about what kids are exposed to in school, GG, scouts, church, etc.

It’s all totally harmless.

Must remember to tell my friend, who’s hosting a sleepover for 8 year-olds at the weekend, that it’s absolutely fine for her husband to chuck on some thigh high boots, a skimpy dress, a naff wig and some makeup. Am sure they’ll all have a ball and no parent would worry. The fact that he’s a farmer should help alleviate any niggling doubts.

Tell him it's okay if he sets up a vlog channel strictly for over-18s, and tells them his stagename for it.

But you did support the comment. No wriggling away from that.
I'm not trying to, and I know I did.
Was just clarifying as posters were doing the same thing that always happens, either misreads, twists or appropriates others posts as your own.

Just to re-clarify. My posts are NOT a crusade against drag queens in general (my views on that, in relation to adults, are for a different thread).

My point is that, for children, lines should not be crossed and boundaries shouldn’t be blurred. We are old enough and, in my case, ugly enough to separate thought processes. Children should not be exposed to this.

@EeeICouldRipATissue

But you did support the comment. No wriggling away from that. I'm not trying to, and I know I did. Was just clarifying as posters were doing the same thing that always happens, either misreads, twists or appropriates others posts as your own.

Nope, that’s not how it went.

It's up to parents to make sure their DC don't see inappropriate things online by supervising them and having parental controls in place to filter out adult/explicit content... If a kid sees a more adult drag show online that's not the fault of the performer but the parents who should have been more careful about their kids online activity. Why the fuck would a primary school kid be given unsupervised Internet access in the first place?

I mentioned the beekeepers, in hindsight maybe daft but still a visitor to a school, like the DQ who would be doing an age appropriate activity. Just because drag can be inappropriate for kids doesn't mean it all is and they'd all be subject to the same vetting and checks.

People queue up and beg online for tickets to little mix for their DC and they bounce around in what is essentially lingerie and sing about their ex being shit in bed. How's that not worse than a man in a dress reading a book?

Anyway, have derailed this thread enough. Have made my position clear, won’t be justifying it further with some posters as it’s not worth taking up the thread space.