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To tell my neighbour not to re-attach her twigs to my fence?

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crowsfeet57 · 20/02/2022 16:59

We live in a detached house at the end of a cul de sac, we generally got along well with our next door neighbours until a few years ago when she became obsessed with the fence between our gardens. There is a 8 foot wall around the other side of our garden and the back, with a 6 foot wooden fence between us and them. The fence isn't new, it was there when we moved in over 20 years ago. It's not leaning or falling down anything. There were about two or three small chunks out of the top of it due to her gardener's and my DH's enthusiastic pruning.

Before they moved in (12 years ago) we had climbers all along the fence and the previous neighbour had the same. It was glorious! The climbers on their side gradually disappeared and some of ours died off, so we knew they weren't fans. About 4 years she knocked and told us we had to dig up the ivy that was growing on our fence because it was killing her plants. The ivy was only growing on a small part of the fence where there is no light between the two houses. We told her to cut it back on her side if it was bothering her. A few days later her gardener knocked to say the ivy was damaging the soil quality and again DH said they could cut it back if it was bothering them. A few days later she knocked again and said we had to dig up the ivy as it was damaging the fence. DH told her it was our fence and if it was damaged we would deal with it. She seemed surprised but appeared to take it on board.

Because they were so persistent, DH dug up the ivy two weeks after this conversation and that was that - or so we thought.

About 13 months ago she had her garden 'landscaped.' Cowboys does not adequately describe the people she got in and as I was wfh I was alert to make sure they were no issues with the fence.

One night she knocked and complained that our 'poisin ivy' had killed her trees. She showed me a picture of some sad looking plants which had been planted between her house and our fence and pointed some dead twigs coming out of the fence. I told her the twigs were the from ivy plant that DH dug up when she complained and that her trees had died as they never got any light. She then told me that she was taking the fence down putting a new one up and none of our plants were allowed to touch it. I told her in no uncertain terms that it was our fence and she was not to touch it. She then told me that the people living on the other side of her had told her it was her fence. (Presumably because her fence is covered with plants and climbers coming from their garden.) She pointed to our wall and said "that's yours." After I had explained that in a row of houses one end would always have two fences, I showed her the deeds which clearly show the fence is ours. I even let her have a photo of the relevant document so she could show her husband. She said she would build a new fence on her property.

A few days later I looked out of the window to see two men attaching some twig screening to our fence. I went out and told them to stop as it was our property. They refused and laughed when I threatened to call the police. I knocked next door and despite having 4 cars on the drive nobody answered. I left a voicemail telling her they had to stop.

Twenty minutes later she came to the door and literally screamed at us for 20 minutes. It was awful. she said she had paid them £400 to put these twigs up as our dreadful fence was ruining her garden. Finally we agreed they could finish putting the screening up but nothing else was to be attached to our fence. A few days later I found someone doing something to the screening which had caused a chunk of the crossbeam to fall off. Again he refused to stop when I asked him, but this time I was so upset that my dog came out barking and growling. Faced with 10 stone of unhappy dog he stopped, but came back and did it a few days later while we were out.

Now (finally) to my AIBU. Storm Eunice has ripped most the screening off the fence taking a plank with it. It has definitely damaged it in a few places. I want to avoid another row, but | am not replacing the fence at the moment and I am NOT being told what I can and can't grow by the fence, so I am thinking it might be best to send her a text saying that we notice the screening has blown down and as it damaged the fence when it was put up and again when it blew down, we no longer agree to it being attached to our fence and she needs to put up some posts on her side to attach it to. I don't want to wait until they come back to start hammering into the fence again and then have another row. AIBU?

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MsAdoraBelleDearheartVonLipwig · 20/02/2022 21:45

Our lovely elderly neighbour had a huge hedge growing up against our fence. Over the years it started to push the fence over. Unfortunately we didn’t notice for a while as it was hidden behind outbuildings. When it finally went over it was blown down and it fell their side. We had someone round to replace it and the lovely elderly neighbour’s snotty daughter in law informed our workman that we ought to pay for the hedge it had landed on. He told her that as the overgrown hedge had weakened the fence in the first place she could pay for half of the new fence, totalling about £1.5k. Funnily enough she shut up.

Another fence of ours faced another neighbour but there was an access track in between us. He told me one day that he was thinking of replacing part of the fence. I said that’s incredibly generous of you but we’ll leave it for now and replace the whole side at some point. He said well the bit that faces my house is mine, it’s on my deeds. Nope, definitely our fence. He clearly thought the access track that leads to the field behind us, which is owned by the farmer that sold the land that the houses are built on, also belongs to him. 🙄

Tigersonvaseline · 20/02/2022 21:51

I must admit ivy is a real bugger.i ve just got rid of a huge ivy fence and I won't let it grow again.

I also understand her frustration of her fence looking nice.
Each person has a different perspective don't they and fences can make a huge impact. O feel sorry for her as it's clearly been driving her mad.

However as pp said it's legally your fence
And you kindly did try and meet her demands.

Pompom2367 · 20/02/2022 22:11

Yanbu don't agree to It

whumpthereitis · 20/02/2022 22:29

The problem is that in wanting to avoid confrontation early on, you’re finding yourself facing a bigger one further down the line.

You’ve actually acquiesced to her temper tantrums every step of the way here, and so she’s not going to stop. You may think you’ve been nice in the name of neighborly harmony, but she’s just thinking you’re a pushover.

I suspect that she will just go ahead with what she plans to do, so you need to stand up for yourself strongly and don’t give her an inch. Also, don’t make threats you’re unwilling to see through as that just makes you look weak in her eyes. I would personally contact a solicitor.

crowsfeet57 · 20/02/2022 22:34

Thank you all for your comments, it's good to hear other points of view. Just a couple of points.

The deeds are perfectly clear that both the walls and the fence is ours. I can also see that the other fence is hers.

I only mentioned that the houses were detached because the ivy and her trees were growing in a place where there is almost no natural light. Her access is on the other side of the house and she generally dumps things on the side where the ivy was.

If our fence was an eyesore I would happily replace it, It isn't, it's actually very similar to the one on the other side of her garden which is actually hers and which she hasn't replaced. That fence is covered in all kinds of climbers and has bushes and trees all over it from her other neighbours. She doesn't appear to have a problem with that one, presumably because she is very friendly with the couple that side.

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Susu49 · 20/02/2022 22:36

Honestly...I don't think its worth it. She should pay for the damage caused to your fence by any screening she's had applied but the rest of it sounds like an unnecessary drama.

If she wants to put up screening her side, for the sake of a peaceful life I'd let it go.

LibrariesGiveUsPower · 20/02/2022 22:54

Your dog is 10 stone?Grin

But yeah YANBU

StatisticallyChallenged · 20/02/2022 23:05

I'd be wary about anything relatively solid being attached. Trellis etc fine, but after seeing what happened to our neighbours I'd not want anything which would block wind

All the fences on this estate are shared ownership. Also on a slope, so most gardens have at least one side where there's a retaining wall, metal fence posts embedded in wall, fence attached. So low side has wall with fence on top, high side only really has fence, plus maybe a row or two of wall bricks

Neighbours opposite, on high side of the slope, decided they wanted more privacy and had a company in who overboarded the fence to cover up the gaps. First big storm and the fence turned in to a big sail and the whole side fell down, taking most of the retaining wall with it. Of course it also fell in to the lower garden, who had done nothing to the fence at all but got a 6ft fence plus most of an 8ft wall as a bonus garden ornament

So for that reason I'd be pretty cautious

Abracadabra12345 · 20/02/2022 23:07

@HiJenny35

You've got a fence that's 20 years old, I can't blame her for being fed up of having to look at that state. She said she was going to replace it so it would have looked decent and you wouldn't let her. As someone who has plants, grass and parts of the fence destroyed by next doors ivy I can see her point of view, it's pointless cutting back to the fence line it's back within days, you could have been reasonable from the start and none of this would have happened. I'd never tell anyone they couldn't attach things to their side of the fence, it's 20 years old please stop with the "she damaged it". Let's hope the thing falls down completely in the wind and then she can have a nice new fence to look and and you'll have to pay for it.
I agree. Tbh I’ve never seen or heard of anyone who puts up a second fence, probably because they don’t escalate these issues
LoisLane66 · 20/02/2022 23:30

@fudging
There is no UK requirement for property to have fencing of any type, nor wall. There is only the requirement to keep animals (bar cats) within boundaries so they do not wander onto roads or other property.
A solicitor's letter will have no effect bar lining the pockets of the partners. They are not cheap and for the most part, have no value insofar as obtaining a resolution is concerned.
If it is wholly on neighbouring property there is nothing to be done unless it is attracting rats (unlikely) or in such poor condition as to be a danger or safety concern for anyone accessing your property.
In that case and if you have any proof of the length of your dissatisfaction regarding the fence, ie: texts, letter, notes to/from neighbour, then you can either make a formal complaint to your local council via the website YouGov UK or ring your LA Environmental Health department.
Many LA departments are not allowing visits to their offices without booking an appointment but a phone call should suffice.

BearOfEasttown · 20/02/2022 23:40

@Soubriquet OMG, I am sooo embarrassed for you, educate yourself, I am literally shaking, are you on glue, give your head a wobble, are you 5? how obtuse you sound!!!

Kidding Grin

Yep @crowsfeet57 you are quite entitled to tell your neighbour not to attach anything to your fence. Very cheeky!

Valeriekat · 21/02/2022 07:25

She is causing criminal damage by attaching anything to your fence.
She is also nuts.

fudging · 21/02/2022 09:10

@LoisLane66

There is though a requirement to reinstate an existing boundary if there was one previously.

Therefore, crap neighbours of mine must replace their fence when it broke/fell down with similar/something anything would do.

TheHumanExperience · 21/02/2022 19:25

@Soubriquet

Yabu. She can put what she likes on her side of the fence.
I think you totally missed the point. Yes, she the neighbour can put whatever she likes 'in' her garden but she has absolutely no right (by law) to affix it to a fence that isn't hers. That is the whole point here. The neighbour can (as I have done), erect my own fence 'within' my boundary, and then I may do as I wish with it, as can she
MsAdoraBelleDearheartVonLipwig · 21/02/2022 21:48

@TheHumanExperience oh dear, you didn’t read the thread did you? 🙈

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