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AIBU?

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To tell my neighbour not to re-attach her twigs to my fence?

115 replies

crowsfeet57 · 20/02/2022 16:59

We live in a detached house at the end of a cul de sac, we generally got along well with our next door neighbours until a few years ago when she became obsessed with the fence between our gardens. There is a 8 foot wall around the other side of our garden and the back, with a 6 foot wooden fence between us and them. The fence isn't new, it was there when we moved in over 20 years ago. It's not leaning or falling down anything. There were about two or three small chunks out of the top of it due to her gardener's and my DH's enthusiastic pruning.

Before they moved in (12 years ago) we had climbers all along the fence and the previous neighbour had the same. It was glorious! The climbers on their side gradually disappeared and some of ours died off, so we knew they weren't fans. About 4 years she knocked and told us we had to dig up the ivy that was growing on our fence because it was killing her plants. The ivy was only growing on a small part of the fence where there is no light between the two houses. We told her to cut it back on her side if it was bothering her. A few days later her gardener knocked to say the ivy was damaging the soil quality and again DH said they could cut it back if it was bothering them. A few days later she knocked again and said we had to dig up the ivy as it was damaging the fence. DH told her it was our fence and if it was damaged we would deal with it. She seemed surprised but appeared to take it on board.

Because they were so persistent, DH dug up the ivy two weeks after this conversation and that was that - or so we thought.

About 13 months ago she had her garden 'landscaped.' Cowboys does not adequately describe the people she got in and as I was wfh I was alert to make sure they were no issues with the fence.

One night she knocked and complained that our 'poisin ivy' had killed her trees. She showed me a picture of some sad looking plants which had been planted between her house and our fence and pointed some dead twigs coming out of the fence. I told her the twigs were the from ivy plant that DH dug up when she complained and that her trees had died as they never got any light. She then told me that she was taking the fence down putting a new one up and none of our plants were allowed to touch it. I told her in no uncertain terms that it was our fence and she was not to touch it. She then told me that the people living on the other side of her had told her it was her fence. (Presumably because her fence is covered with plants and climbers coming from their garden.) She pointed to our wall and said "that's yours." After I had explained that in a row of houses one end would always have two fences, I showed her the deeds which clearly show the fence is ours. I even let her have a photo of the relevant document so she could show her husband. She said she would build a new fence on her property.

A few days later I looked out of the window to see two men attaching some twig screening to our fence. I went out and told them to stop as it was our property. They refused and laughed when I threatened to call the police. I knocked next door and despite having 4 cars on the drive nobody answered. I left a voicemail telling her they had to stop.

Twenty minutes later she came to the door and literally screamed at us for 20 minutes. It was awful. she said she had paid them £400 to put these twigs up as our dreadful fence was ruining her garden. Finally we agreed they could finish putting the screening up but nothing else was to be attached to our fence. A few days later I found someone doing something to the screening which had caused a chunk of the crossbeam to fall off. Again he refused to stop when I asked him, but this time I was so upset that my dog came out barking and growling. Faced with 10 stone of unhappy dog he stopped, but came back and did it a few days later while we were out.

Now (finally) to my AIBU. Storm Eunice has ripped most the screening off the fence taking a plank with it. It has definitely damaged it in a few places. I want to avoid another row, but | am not replacing the fence at the moment and I am NOT being told what I can and can't grow by the fence, so I am thinking it might be best to send her a text saying that we notice the screening has blown down and as it damaged the fence when it was put up and again when it blew down, we no longer agree to it being attached to our fence and she needs to put up some posts on her side to attach it to. I don't want to wait until they come back to start hammering into the fence again and then have another row. AIBU?

OP posts:
FindingMeno · 20/02/2022 17:42

These are the sorts of situations that make me glad I'm not a homeowner.
I'm not sure I'd escalate this any further because I cba with that sort of grief.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 20/02/2022 17:43

@Viviennemary

You both sound as bad as each other. Stop growing your ivy. But she shouldnt be attaching twigs to a fence.
If op wants ivy in her garden she can. Full stop. That isn't even the issue as ops DH dug it up!

The neighbour is a twat

Chloemol · 20/02/2022 17:44

@Soubriquet

Yabu. She can put what she likes on her side of the fence.
@Soubriquet

Re read the post, then apologise to the op

Ludo19 · 20/02/2022 17:45

I think you're more unreasonable to allow her to scream at you on your own doorstep for 20 mins. Go down the legal route. She sounds a selfish unhinged fucker plus ivy only suffocated trees if it grows round said tree.

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 20/02/2022 17:47

@chloemol, read the other bazillion posts having a pop at @Soubriquet, and wind your neck in

Nancydrawn · 20/02/2022 17:49

I think the next time she comes to scream at you for 20 minutes, you listen for two and then say, "Jane, I won't be spoken to that way. Please send me your concerns in a letter." And then close the door.

colliecolliecollieoioioi · 20/02/2022 17:49

Soubriquet, have you been told now, pet?

FindingMeno · 20/02/2022 17:51

I think, going against the grain, I would go knock on her door and de-escalate and have a proper talk about it.
It's better not to have an enemy for a neighbour.

Abracadabra12345 · 20/02/2022 17:51

@Chitchattypatty

I do accept that, I suppose I can't imagine being that bothered about something like screening. If my other NDN attached screening to their side of our fence I don't think I'd be bothered about it. What about trellis? There must be hundreds of thousands of gardens up and down the country with trellis attached to fences that don't belong to them, surely?
Our next door neighbours have trellis on their side of our newish fence, we were there when they were hammering it on and it didn’t occur to us to tell them they weren’t allowed to put anything on our fence, even if it was their fence. They have to look at it so why shouldn’t they make it look pretty? If they wanted to put twig screening on it - why not, as long as it didn’t weaken or damage the fence. They didn’t ask permission and it didn’t cross our minds that they should.

I wish I had a NDN problem like this. I’d be peeved about the ivy but the rest..meh.

Hugasauras · 20/02/2022 17:53

Those screens are a nightmare if you live somewhere with high winds. If they are attached to the fence but don't have much in the way of gaps for the wind to go through, they can pull the fence down if there is strong wind in the right direction.

godmum56 · 20/02/2022 17:53

@FindingMeno

I think, going against the grain, I would go knock on her door and de-escalate and have a proper talk about it. It's better not to have an enemy for a neighbour.
it seems like she already has one and not of her making
Abracadabra12345 · 20/02/2022 17:53

was their side (of our fence)

megletthesecond · 20/02/2022 17:55

Yanbu.
Although I'm currently too scared to tell my neighbour to unattach their twine and rose from my fence as it'll kick off.

FuzzyPuffling · 20/02/2022 17:55

There's a convention of marking the deeds to indicate which property owns the fence - I forget what it is, something liike an arrowhead, I think.

It's a T mark. The top of the T faces towards the boundary owner.

Fungirls · 20/02/2022 17:59

OMG did some of you actually read the OP.

The OPs house deeds show she owns the boundary and the fence. It is therefore her fence, which has been damaged by her neighbours actions.

The OP removed the ivy.

OP you have been reasonable and your neighbour has pushed the boundaries. YANBU to say no to your neighbour attaching anything else to your fence.

chesirecat99 · 20/02/2022 18:00

YANBU unreasonable in that she isn't allowed to attach anything to your fence.

However, a wooden fence that is over 12 years old, especially one that has had climbers and ivy growing on it, is long past its expected lifespan. I doubt very much that her twigs caused the damage. The ivy keep the moisture in and the wood rots faster. I would suggest that the reason the crossbar and other bits broke off is because it is no longer structurally sound.

I can't imagine it looks great either.

StoneofDestiny · 20/02/2022 18:06

Your next door neighbour is unhinged if she has shouted at you for 20 minutes. She should have been shut up much sooner.
You've been more than reasonable with her demands about what you grow in your garden - tell her she can build her own independent fence in her garden and leave yours alone.

helpfulperson · 20/02/2022 18:06

Unfortunately deeds are not always accurate and there have been many court cases over the year because more than one set of deeds indicate ownership.

Melroses · 20/02/2022 18:06

The fence is over 20 years old - it is the neighbours that are 12.

It has had a good innings. They don't last forever.

donquixotedelamancha · 20/02/2022 18:07

I suppose I can't imagine being that bothered about something like screening. If my other NDN attached screening to their side of our fence I don't think I'd be bothered about it.

You mean you wouldn't threaten to call the police then set your dog on the uncouth workman? I'm not sure MN is the place for you.

These are the sorts of situations that make me glad I'm not a homeowner. I'm not sure I'd escalate this any further because I cba with that sort of grief.

If you do decide to buy just pick an area of reality and you'll be fine. This sort of thing is only an issue in mumsnetia.

littlepeas · 20/02/2022 18:08

@Soubriquet bashers on this page have not read the full thread….

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 20/02/2022 18:09

Long handled roller and paint her side with anti burglar paint.
Neighbour relations are screwed anyway.
Or a solicitor letter. Best 75 quid I ever spent when our batshit ndn attacked our new fence with a claw hammer..

StarsAndSugarlumps · 20/02/2022 18:10

I would try to de-escalate. If you sell you want want to have to declare a dispute.

Abracadabra12345 · 20/02/2022 18:15

@chesirecat99

YANBU unreasonable in that she isn't allowed to attach anything to your fence.

However, a wooden fence that is over 12 years old, especially one that has had climbers and ivy growing on it, is long past its expected lifespan. I doubt very much that her twigs caused the damage. The ivy keep the moisture in and the wood rots faster. I would suggest that the reason the crossbar and other bits broke off is because it is no longer structurally sound.

I can't imagine it looks great either.

.The fence isn't new, it was there when we moved in over 20 years ago. It's not leaning or falling down anything as our dreadful fence was ruining her garden

She clearly thinks this very old fence is dreadful and ruining her garden and looking for solutions

elephantmarchingin · 20/02/2022 18:17

I think you are being massively unreasonable and sound like nightmare neighbours