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To think this is pure greed

205 replies

Dobbysgotthesocks · 17/02/2022 17:36

Just received a section 13 notice on my home. 23% increase in rent and given one months notice.
AIBU to think this is nothing more than pure utter greed!

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caringcarer · 25/02/2022 17:00

@empresssuiko, the only reason some LL have changed their properties to Airbnb instead of rental houses is became the former counts as a business and LL can offset mortgage interest against tax whereas the latter in most cases unless limited company does not so LL can't offset mortgage interest so has to absorb that as a cost leaving less profit.

freshcarnation · 25/02/2022 17:32

It's a pretty shitty thing to do. We've not put up rent for one of our properties for over 5 years and it's now £500 a month cheaper than it's equivalents in the area at the moment. However it could do with a new kitchen so we won't be doing anything. The rent will stay the same until the tenant leaves.

ChoiceMummy · 25/02/2022 17:36

[quote Dobbysgotthesocks]@Woahthehorsey I'm sorry but it isn't your tenants responsibility to cover the costs of your DH and his brothers relationship issues. If you get into financial trouble that's on you and isn't for your tenants to bail you out!!! [/quote]
Being a landlord is a business not a charity!

You run your business to make a profit out of those who are vulnerable needing carers, that's worse imo than landlords!

If you can't afford it, move.

Out of interest how much is this rent exactly?

Dobbysgotthesocks · 25/02/2022 17:41

@ChoiceMummy have you even read the thread??? 🙄🤷🏻‍♀️

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ChoiceMummy · 25/02/2022 18:48

[quote Dobbysgotthesocks]@ChoiceMummy have you even read the thread??? 🙄🤷🏻‍♀️[/quote]
Yes and you've tried to justify your business as being superior to the landlord. Yet have stated you'll increase the charges for carers to cover your rent. Hardly altruistic is it?

And nowhere have you stated what your actual rent is or will be?

Dobbysgotthesocks · 25/02/2022 19:08

@ChoiceMummy I run a community interest company! I'm not making big profits I make enough to cover my costs and put aside a small pension.
Yes I will have to increase my prices to cover my costs! Not to make a profit!!!

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Woahthehorsey · 25/02/2022 19:26

[quote Dobbysgotthesocks]@ChoiceMummy I run a community interest company! I'm not making big profits I make enough to cover my costs and put aside a small pension.
Yes I will have to increase my prices to cover my costs! Not to make a profit!!! [/quote]
And I'm losing money. I'm not raising rent to make a profit. Or even cover my costs.

Nospringchix · 25/02/2022 19:40

@CandlesBlanketsandTea

To the people saying the OP should just move obviously haven't rented in a while, there is huge competition for housing. Some places have over 70 people interested! It's the wild fuckin west out there and it's not as easy as people think. I had to pay 6 months up front and still got evicted for no reason at the end of the 6 months, and I bought a fridge to move into that property. As someone who was evicted under a section 21 notice I had to cover all the moving costs when it wasn't my choice to move, the system is fucked. Some of you just don't have a bloody clue.
Yes. This^ big time. The worry about the rent rising beyond what you can pay when you know there are very few properties available with many prospective tenants competing.

The worry about receiving a section 21 notice, especially when you've had one before.

The worry that you can't afford moving expenses when it wasn't your choice to move.

ChoiceMummy · 25/02/2022 20:30

[quote Dobbysgotthesocks]@ChoiceMummy I run a community interest company! I'm not making big profits I make enough to cover my costs and put aside a small pension.
Yes I will have to increase my prices to cover my costs! Not to make a profit!!! [/quote]
That's semantics. You pay yourself an income and expenses. So in effect, to cover your rent you'll increase these, hardly community minded as surely the obvious thing would be for you to reduce your costs and everything else possible before being so nonchalant about these vulnerable people you have chosen to work with?

ChoiceMummy · 25/02/2022 20:32

@Dobbysgotthesocks
19:26Woahthehorsey

Dobbysgotthesocks

@ChoiceMummy I run a community interest company! I'm not making big profits I make enough to cover my costs and put aside a small pension.
Yes I will have to increase my prices to cover my costs! Not to make a profit!!!

And I'm losing money. I'm not raising rent to make a profit. Or even cover my costs.

Second account I presume?
If it's running at a loss then its not viable in the first place is it?

Dobbysgotthesocks · 25/02/2022 20:43

@ChoiceMummy WTAF???

I live in one of the cheapest houses I could find. I drive the most economical car I can. My costs are already as low as they can be. I don't charge many of the extras that I should.

How fucking dare you suggest I'm not community minded!!! What have you done through the pandemic to help people? I have worked 7 days a week since March 2020. I have given up seeing friends and family to protect the clients from covid. You have no idea!!! None at all!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Angelou79 · 25/02/2022 21:16

Am I the only one who has seen that OP has said there are better properties for sake rent with off road park & central heating locally-surely the answer is to just move into one them! And also agree no need for such rudeness

CandlesBlanketsandTea · 25/02/2022 21:33

@Angelou79

Am I the only one who has seen that OP has said there are better properties for sake rent with off road park & central heating locally-surely the answer is to just move into one them! And also agree no need for such rudeness
Did you read and understand the bit where I said renting at the moment is like the wild west? Plus moving is really expensive, you have to raise the deposit before you can move.
ChoiceMummy · 25/02/2022 21:39

@CandlesBlanketsandTea
That's par for the course if you choose to rent though.

ChoiceMummy · 25/02/2022 21:41

[quote Dobbysgotthesocks]@ChoiceMummy WTAF???

I live in one of the cheapest houses I could find. I drive the most economical car I can. My costs are already as low as they can be. I don't charge many of the extras that I should.

How fucking dare you suggest I'm not community minded!!! What have you done through the pandemic to help people? I have worked 7 days a week since March 2020. I have given up seeing friends and family to protect the clients from covid. You have no idea!!! None at all!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬[/quote]
I don't need to play titfortat, but guess what, yes, I worked throughout the pandemic in my "helping" role!

Dobbysgotthesocks · 25/02/2022 21:50

[quote ChoiceMummy]@CandlesBlanketsandTea
That's par for the course if you choose to rent though.[/quote]
We don't choose to rent though! Can you really not understand that!!!! I'm not lucky enough to have been given or lent a house deposit. Severe illness prevented me from getting the qualifications to become a high earner. I have worked my ass off for years and have no savings to form a deposit. If I want a roof over my head I HAVE to rent. It's not a choice.

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ListeningButNotHearing · 25/02/2022 21:57

It's greedy and merciless (rather like choicemummy).

Woahthehorsey · 25/02/2022 22:01

[quote ChoiceMummy]@CandlesBlanketsandTea
That's par for the course if you choose to rent though.[/quote]
Choose to rent? Seriously?

At times in my life I've chosen to rent because it was the better option than buying and at times because I couldn't afford to buy. I'd say most people who rent are in the second category. I do know a few who don't want to buy because they find the maintenance aspect too stressful, but the vast majority of those I know who rent can't afford to buy.

CandlesBlanketsandTea · 26/02/2022 06:36

[quote ChoiceMummy]@CandlesBlanketsandTea
That's par for the course if you choose to rent though.[/quote]
The rental market is feral at the moment, I've never experienced so much competition. FFS some of us have NO option other than to rent, how do you not understand that? Confused

whitedahlias · 26/02/2022 11:43

Having rented for most of my life, it definitely wasn't a lifestyle choice.

However, I know I did well by being a sensible, helpful tenant (let landlord store stuff in storage I wasn't using, forwarded his post promptly, let him know when a letter about planning permission for a next door property came in etc).

When the rent went up, he usually explained his increased costs, what the agent had advised on market value and asked me for my thoughts. It was pretty cooperative. One year I explained that I could see the market had risen and agreed what he was asking was not unreasonable but we had had zero pay rise so found it v difficult. We agreed to delay the increase for a few months.

I know you're p1ssed off, especially because you're stuck, but just suggesting you approach LL to try to find out their reasons and in the spirit of wanting to work together. You need to show you have some "value" to him/her as a tenant over and above the £. as if you do all the tribunal stuff or aggressive stuff suggested, let's face it, you'll just be evicted on some other grounds pretty soon (like he'll say he wants to move in himself and make it his main home, there is no defence to that one).

Dobbysgotthesocks · 26/02/2022 12:03

@whitedahlias

Having rented for most of my life, it definitely wasn't a lifestyle choice.

However, I know I did well by being a sensible, helpful tenant (let landlord store stuff in storage I wasn't using, forwarded his post promptly, let him know when a letter about planning permission for a next door property came in etc).

When the rent went up, he usually explained his increased costs, what the agent had advised on market value and asked me for my thoughts. It was pretty cooperative. One year I explained that I could see the market had risen and agreed what he was asking was not unreasonable but we had had zero pay rise so found it v difficult. We agreed to delay the increase for a few months.

I know you're p1ssed off, especially because you're stuck, but just suggesting you approach LL to try to find out their reasons and in the spirit of wanting to work together. You need to show you have some "value" to him/her as a tenant over and above the £. as if you do all the tribunal stuff or aggressive stuff suggested, let's face it, you'll just be evicted on some other grounds pretty soon (like he'll say he wants to move in himself and make it his main home, there is no defence to that one).

@whitedahlias believe me I have been a good tenant. I have tried and tried and tried to negotiate. The estate agents have told him he's being unreasonable too. There's more to my situation too which make him even more unreasonable which he and the estate agents are aware of. You have been lucky with your landlords but nothing all of us share the same luck
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bigbeatmanifesto · 26/02/2022 12:12

I'm in the exact same position, except alongside the increase a section 21 eviction order aswell.
Absolute nightmare housing solution have said it's a landlord cash grab and it's happening all over the country.
It's crippled us. Private renting really is the worst in every way, not only does your life hang in the balance of someone else at the end of it you've spent thousand upon thousands and have nothing to show for it.

Itsnotover · 26/02/2022 12:15

Landlords often are greedy so I imagine it is that.

CandlesBlanketsandTea · 26/02/2022 12:37

@bigbeatmanifesto

I'm in the exact same position, except alongside the increase a section 21 eviction order aswell. Absolute nightmare housing solution have said it's a landlord cash grab and it's happening all over the country. It's crippled us. Private renting really is the worst in every way, not only does your life hang in the balance of someone else at the end of it you've spent thousand upon thousands and have nothing to show for it.
I agree with this, tenants have very few rights. You can't even put up pictures, it's so disheartening.
Dobbysgotthesocks · 26/02/2022 13:03

Section 21 just arrived.

So now I homeless
Going to loose my business
Been diagnosed with cancer

All at the same time.

I'm done.

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