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To not want DF to bring her baby everywhere?

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DijfunvKd · 11/02/2022 12:19

My friend lives a few hours away from me, and visits the area I live in fairly often. She had her first baby last year. When she visits, it's always with her DH.

Now she's had the baby, she will contact me asking if I want to meet her and the baby for coffee or lunch, and I always go. She will also ask if I want to go for a drink or nice meal one evening, and so I find a date on which I'm available. However, I then get messages to say she'll have to bring the baby because she'll need breastfeeding, or there is no one else to look after her etc. So we end up having a quick coke in a child friendly pub, or they both come to my house.

I don't mind the lunches with the baby, and do the expected 'isn't she cute?' (she is), 'is she eating/sleeping well?' small talk, but I find it extremely boring and do it to be polite and supportive. I don't want to repeat the same conversation on the evening.

DF will always say 'baby will be no trouble while we're out, she's very placid', but it inevitably becomes DF talking to the baby while I sit and make the expected cooing noises, and then she needs to leave early to get the baby to bed. If she had no option but to bring the baby to socialise then that would be one thing, but her DH goes off for hours with his friends, child free, well into the night, and I can't understand why she can't do that. If it was because she simply didn't want to leave the baby, then why ask if I'd like to go for a drink or nice meal in the evening?

During her pregnancy she was claiming nothing would change, that she'd still be going on holiday with friends and leaving the baby with her dad, and I thought she was deluding herself with that, but now that the baby has arrived she's swung hard the other way, which is her prerogative, but AIBU to think that her expectation that she brings the baby every time we see each other is ridiculous?

For information, the same happens when I visit her too, although that is less often because she visits friends and family where I live and stays with her parents.

OP posts:
Somethingsnappy · 11/02/2022 22:12

@EarringsandLipstick

But a little understanding and tolerance of the first few months postpartum would be helpful perhaps.

How much more 'tolerant & understanding' do you expect OP to be? 😳

Patient then! I've been in the OP's position before. It doesn't last forever. Besides, OP's friend hasn't cancelled on her; she's just changed the venue and brought the baby along. It is annoying, I get that, but not so awful that a friendship should be affected by it.
Thatsplentyjack · 11/02/2022 22:13

"The baby" has now lost all meaning to me!

cocktailclub · 11/02/2022 22:14

Leave it a while and stick to quick coffees and lunch.

Find someone more interesting to spend the evening with.

Tiffbiff · 11/02/2022 22:16

OP YANBU at all.

unfortunately as women I think we’re expected to ‘want to see baby’ where actually we’re really happy for you to take 5 minutes and tell us they’re still happy and healthy and then let’s talk about stuff that doesn’t involve the child as surely that’s the point of being out?!

MabelsApron · 11/02/2022 22:23

@Tiffbiff

OP YANBU at all.

unfortunately as women I think we’re expected to ‘want to see baby’ where actually we’re really happy for you to take 5 minutes and tell us they’re still happy and healthy and then let’s talk about stuff that doesn’t involve the child as surely that’s the point of being out?!

Absolutely. Imagine men having this fucking conversation. It’s ridiculous.
Flickflak · 11/02/2022 22:26

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Somethingsnappy · 11/02/2022 22:29

@Thatsplentyjack

"The baby" has now lost all meaning to me!
Grin

The baby the baby the baby the baby the baby

ThePlantsitter · 11/02/2022 22:31

If you don't want to arrange to go out in the evening with her, don't. I wrote a post earlier saying that people do go a bit baby obsessed at first and to either grit your teeth or call the friendship a day. I'm guessing you took that as patronising but if as you lightly imply you do actually have children you're actually being quite intolerant.

I don't think it is patronising for somebody who has an experience of something to give advice in the light of that experience to someone who hasn't, whatever that experience is. It's not unique to motherhood. If you didn't need it explaining you wouldn't be asking the question tbh. Maybe some mothers are able to go out in the evening very soon after having a baby - good for them - but not everyone is like that by a long chalk.

Katya213 · 11/02/2022 22:35

She has a baby, her life has changed, so will yours once you become a mum!

Sterpie · 11/02/2022 22:37

@Katya213

She has a baby, her life has changed, so will yours once you become a mum!
As you keep sayingHmm. But you don't know whether op has children or not.
ToykotoLosAngeles · 11/02/2022 22:37

@ThePlantsitter

If you don't want to arrange to go out in the evening with her, don't. I wrote a post earlier saying that people do go a bit baby obsessed at first and to either grit your teeth or call the friendship a day. I'm guessing you took that as patronising but if as you lightly imply you do actually have children you're actually being quite intolerant.

I don't think it is patronising for somebody who has an experience of something to give advice in the light of that experience to someone who hasn't, whatever that experience is. It's not unique to motherhood. If you didn't need it explaining you wouldn't be asking the question tbh. Maybe some mothers are able to go out in the evening very soon after having a baby - good for them - but not everyone is like that by a long chalk.

Said friend keeps asking OP for child-free evening dates, then on the day changing the venue and shortening the evening to bring the baby.

If OP stops agreeing to evening baby meetups, especially given she already does daytime ones, she is going to have to actively refuse the invitation, not just "stop" arranging them. This is somewhat awkward.

If friend is a mum who doesn't want to go out without the baby she should stop doing what is essentially lying.

Movingonup22 · 11/02/2022 22:38

@Katya213 there is not a big enough biscuit in the world

Valdes · 11/02/2022 22:39

@Katya213

She has a baby, her life has changed, so will yours once you become a mum!
You've got to be taking the piss now right? Confused
Mollysocks · 11/02/2022 22:40

[quote Movingonup22]@Katya213 there is not a big enough biscuit in the world[/quote]
Here you go 🤣

To not want DF to bring her baby everywhere?
Katya213 · 11/02/2022 22:40

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Katya213 · 11/02/2022 22:41

My favourite, how did you know ☺☺

saraclara · 11/02/2022 22:42

@Katya213

She has a baby, her life has changed, so will yours once you become a mum!
...and another fiver for the fund.

There simply aren't enough eye rolls.

Mollysocks · 11/02/2022 22:43

@Katya213

My favourite, how did you know ☺☺
🤣 Craving one now!
Loki64 · 11/02/2022 22:47

YABU.
If she suggests drinks and meal why not suggest something that is more baby frieny during the day ect to accommodate her if ur happy to do lunch/coffee while the baby is there.

MabelsApron · 11/02/2022 22:51

Gosh, we’re going to end up with alcohol poisoning on our night out, the Smug Mummy jar kitty is so full!

Movingonup22 · 11/02/2022 22:54

@Loki64 one of my favs so far! It is the OPs responsibility to make the call whether something is baby friendly for her friends baby and then determine and suggest the baby friendly option - again I repeat - for the OPs friends baby.

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 11/02/2022 23:07

I agree that she should stick to lunches/day time
Coffees for now .

I wouldn't waste evenings going for dinner with her if it all revolves around the baby, that's just dull for you and I think it's fair enough to elude to that to. It's also not particularly fair on the baby to be out past it's bed time. So no, YANBU

Loki64 · 11/02/2022 23:10

@Movingonup22 actually if i was in ops position i would think that my friend was possibly arranging drinks or evening meal as a way to do things that i may enjoy?
Would no one feel bad for the new mum that she is arranging these things but then things happen where she has to bring baby? Is there not a possibility she feels guilty for cancelling and thats why she would prefer to still go even if that means bringing baby?
If this was my friend I would suggest that if she cant find someone to have baby then not to worry and im happy to do things i the daytime which are more baby friendly?

Theroughoperator · 11/02/2022 23:12

@Katya213 how awful & cruel you are. You don’t know if the OP already has children or not., if she wants them or not.

What if she has fertility issues & cannot have children. You don’t know.

Heartless

ToykotoLosAngeles · 11/02/2022 23:12

@Loki64

YABU. If she suggests drinks and meal why not suggest something that is more baby frieny during the day ect to accommodate her if ur happy to do lunch/coffee while the baby is there.
Yes, because OP definitely didn't post that she is already doing lunches and coffees with friend and baby IN THE OP