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Vardy v Rooney - "nasty bitch"

599 replies

Hunderland · 09/02/2022 01:19

Phone dropped in the North Sea? Everything 'unfortunately' wiped from devices?

YABU - those things really were totally coincidental that happened just after they were told to hand them in

YANBU yeah ...right...

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DrSbaitso · 10/02/2022 09:41

@longwayoff

And now, for crying out loud, Coleen and Wayne tell all about their relationship in a documentary. On Prime, soon. Make a date fans.
Nah, I don't care about that. I want more developments on the court case. Next headline: Vardy’s laptop accidentally falls into Mount Etna!
Skeam · 10/02/2022 10:01

And Jamie Vardy’s iPad dragged out to sea by freak wave. Vardy hard drive eaten by moths. Vardy family PC gored by passing bull.

longwayoff · 10/02/2022 10:06

I'm with you DrSbaitso, knew nothing about these people -other than the names of the Rooneys and that he plays football - until I idly opened this thread yesterday. Yet it's got a horrible fascination. . .

DrSbaitso · 10/02/2022 10:10

I first heard it on the radio when Rooney made the accusation. I was driving and heard "Footballer's wife Coleen Rooney has..." and automatically tuned out. Then I heard "Wagatha Christie", which brought me right back to focus. But by then the newsbite had finished, so I had to look it up later.

It was soooooo worth it.

thecatsthecats · 10/02/2022 10:30

For what it's worth, my nephew plays in the same kiddy football league as one of the Rooney boys, as do several other famous players. My BIL said that he's very good with all the kids, good at discipline with his own, and very nice to the understandably highly excited little boys who meet him, whilst other players are more stand offish.

I certainly wouldn't marry him, but if I were married with four kids to a very rich and excellent father, I'd not be super eager to jump ship when I could live a nice life with my family (which for Coleen, includes her disabled sister), rather than introduce disruption to everyone's lives.

But then if I became single now, in my childless and average income family, I wouldn't be jumping at the bit to form a relationship either - I'd be quite excited about the free time obtained from not being in a relationship! So I can well see that she might make the choice that her material circumstances are more important than her marital status.

ajandjjmum · 10/02/2022 10:43

Just musing - quiet day - and I know it's no excuse, but am I right that WR has 'only' ever had one night stands/prostitutes rather than a longterm affair.

Not saying that's ok, just thinking whether that would make staying with him easier.

VikingOnTheFridge · 10/02/2022 10:58

@Skeam

And Jamie Vardy’s iPad dragged out to sea by freak wave. Vardy hard drive eaten by moths. Vardy family PC gored by passing bull.
I cannot wait for the film of this.
LoseLooseLucy · 10/02/2022 11:06

@ajandjjmum

Just musing - quiet day - and I know it's no excuse, but am I right that WR has 'only' ever had one night stands/prostitutes rather than a longterm affair.

Not saying that's ok, just thinking whether that would make staying with him easier.

Yes, and I understand what you mean. Some people can 'tolerate' one night stands but not an emotional affair. To each their own 🤷🏼‍♀️
prh47bridge · 10/02/2022 11:08

@ajandjjmum

Just musing - quiet day - and I know it's no excuse, but am I right that WR has 'only' ever had one night stands/prostitutes rather than a longterm affair.

Not saying that's ok, just thinking whether that would make staying with him easier.

Yes, as far as we know he has never had a long-term affair. It all appears to have been prostitutes. There have been no reports of him cheating since 2010, which is two years after they married. Of course, there may be things we don't know about.
ohfook · 10/02/2022 11:10

@Marchingredsoldiers

Colleen Rooney in particular is pretty rich in her own right. Google seems to think about 15 million.

Someone else mentioned that RV is worth about 3 million.

Sorry to bring the mood down but that has properly depressed me. I hate my job. Am married to a lovely man, but he is not a huge earner. I have no choice but to fucking carry on getting up every morning and working my arse off for 12 hours for just enough.

Yes but I exchange you don't have to worry about stds from your hubby shagging around. I'd take your life over theirs tbh.
pilates · 10/02/2022 11:16

RV does not come across very well.

Not very nice in I’m a Celeb, JV’s parents refused to go to their wedding and publicly commenting on the size of a lover’s penis.

nauticant · 10/02/2022 12:49

For those waiting for more excitement, this is how things stand:

"The case is due to go to a full trial in May but a two-day hearing this week has considered which evidence should be taken into account."

Personally, I can't wait.

DrSbaitso · 10/02/2022 13:08

@nauticant

For those waiting for more excitement, this is how things stand:

"The case is due to go to a full trial in May but a two-day hearing this week has considered which evidence should be taken into account."

Personally, I can't wait.

Will the coincidental loss of evidence by Team Vardy be considered as evidence itself?
LoseLooseLucy · 10/02/2022 13:12

Well I'm interested in the outcome 👀🤷🏼‍♀️

prh47bridge · 10/02/2022 13:16

Will the coincidental loss of evidence by Team Vardy be considered as evidence itself?

It is certainly evidence as to the credibility of Vardy and her agent.

nauticant · 10/02/2022 13:21

One thing I've been wondering is whether the evidence that comes to light in the case will damage Vardy's reputation to such a significant degree that if she wins she will receive much reduced, or even nominal, damages. Or are damages based upon the reputation that she held before the case started?

Mrsjayy · 10/02/2022 14:23

I remember RV running off to Dubai to escape as she was " emotionally distressed" only a 7 star hotel would elevate that distress Hmm ridiculous woman

Ikeptgoing · 10/02/2022 14:25

This could be the court case that keeps on giving . What next...? Imagination runs wild...

Jamie's phone gets accidentally run over by a SUV three times as he dropped it and it looked like a leaf so he didn't pick it up and his driver always drives and reverses three times because it's a superstitious ritual before football matches

Any photos that surface of Rebekah meeting with a journalist are faked because that's not her in ray-bans on a park bench passing over an envelope, as she has an evil twin sister and could be her and besides she wears Dior not Ray-bans

Ikeptgoing · 10/02/2022 14:33

WhatsApp has a back up service that is set by default

If you were importing evidence over to provide to your solicitor & you accidentally delete all the images and some texts don't worry Rebekah I can help you!! - just go to any of the last 3 WhatsApp back ups you have and hit restore. Voila !

Now hand it over to your legal team. I'm sure they have IT proficient professionals that can download what the court requested you disclose very easily for you

Also, your PR person can be reassured that her WhatsApps will equally have been backed up. She can buy any new phone, order new sim and PAC code it over to her old number (since it's sleeping with the fishes) that lets her log back into her WhatsApp account and voila she can also hit restore on WhatsApp! She can recover what the court ordered her disclose too.

All those messages can come back & be given to court!

DrSbaitso · 10/02/2022 14:48

@Ikeptgoing

WhatsApp has a back up service that is set by default

If you were importing evidence over to provide to your solicitor & you accidentally delete all the images and some texts don't worry Rebekah I can help you!! - just go to any of the last 3 WhatsApp back ups you have and hit restore. Voila !

Now hand it over to your legal team. I'm sure they have IT proficient professionals that can download what the court requested you disclose very easily for you

Also, your PR person can be reassured that her WhatsApps will equally have been backed up. She can buy any new phone, order new sim and PAC code it over to her old number (since it's sleeping with the fishes) that lets her log back into her WhatsApp account and voila she can also hit restore on WhatsApp! She can recover what the court ordered her disclose too.

All those messages can come back & be given to court!

Could the court order this?
SisterAgatha · 10/02/2022 15:00

I feel like the court must have ordered it because otherwise why would RV submit messages with her agent saying “it was me”.

That is probably the least damning thing she’s said. I don’t know how but I bet the lost messages are even more incriminating.

DrSbaitso · 10/02/2022 15:20

I mean, could the court order that Team Rooney carry out the data retrieval procedures outlined by Ikeptgoing? Since the original order to submit data from their devices has not worked out.

prh47bridge · 10/02/2022 15:50

@Ikeptgoing

WhatsApp has a back up service that is set by default

If you were importing evidence over to provide to your solicitor & you accidentally delete all the images and some texts don't worry Rebekah I can help you!! - just go to any of the last 3 WhatsApp back ups you have and hit restore. Voila !

Now hand it over to your legal team. I'm sure they have IT proficient professionals that can download what the court requested you disclose very easily for you

Also, your PR person can be reassured that her WhatsApps will equally have been backed up. She can buy any new phone, order new sim and PAC code it over to her old number (since it's sleeping with the fishes) that lets her log back into her WhatsApp account and voila she can also hit restore on WhatsApp! She can recover what the court ordered her disclose too.

All those messages can come back & be given to court!

If the individuals concerned have a Google Drive account then yes, WhatsApp data is backed up. Since an IT expert has been unable to recover full data, I can only assume backups were disabled or have been deleted.

I mean, could the court order that Team Rooney carry out the data retrieval procedures outlined by Ikeptgoing? Since the original order to submit data from their devices has not worked out.

It is Vardy that would be ordered but there is no need to for a separate order if she has already been ordered to disclose this information. She is required to make best efforts to recover everything that has been lost. And we know she has engaged an IT expert who has expressed surprise that he hasn't been able to recover anything.

prh47bridge · 10/02/2022 15:52

@SisterAgatha

I feel like the court must have ordered it because otherwise why would RV submit messages with her agent saying “it was me”.

That is probably the least damning thing she’s said. I don’t know how but I bet the lost messages are even more incriminating.

Whether the court ordered it or not, in a civil case you are required to hand over anything requested by the other side (unless you can convince the court it is irrelevant) regardless of whether it helps or hinders your case. Indeed, you are especially required to hand over anything that damages your case.
SparticusCaticus · 10/02/2022 16:35

@prh47bridge

Yes I know that!!! My post was sarcastic.

Of course there is WhatsApp backup and iCloud or Google drive backup to their information on laptops, iPads and mobile phones including WhatsApp messages and images. That RV wants court to believe each of those devices failed independently and recently. And that their backups are strangely empty- (the only reason that's not available is because backups were disabled and deleted).

The fact an IT expert cannot recover it on any of those devices is another stretch to believe

It goes to credibility.

Because it's the "my dog ate my homework ...but you can't have the dog to check his mouth ...because my tiger then ate my dog ... and a hunter came and shot the tiger in the night as he unlocked his cage and then the front door with his nonopposable thumbs ... and the tiger is now on the wall of someone's house who said his name was Bob III ... but we don't know if it was his real name as he may have been wearing a disguise" HmmHmmGrin