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To think Camilla should not be crowned Queen

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Viviennemary · 06/02/2022 00:41

I know there are other threads on this but I thought it would be interesting to get a vote. Seems most people are in favour. I'm not

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CustardySergeant · 06/02/2022 12:51

@Wendybyrdesmissingconscience

She’s not going to be queen. I honestly couldn’t give a hoot about any of them. We should bin the royal family.
When Charles is King she will be his consort and her title will be 'Her Majesty the Queen' just as that was the Queen Mother's title during the reign of George VI. She just won't be a Queen Regnant like Elizabeth II but Queen Consort as wife of the monarch. It is the monarch whose face is on the stamps and currency.
Viviennemary · 06/02/2022 12:51

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Maireas · 06/02/2022 12:51

@JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue

I'm happy with the proposal - I wasn't in favour back when they married, but I genuinely believe she has stepped up and earned the title by working for it, unlike some other members of the royal family.

However, I am concerned as to how she would be titled if Charles dies before Camilla. She can hardly become the Queen Mother as she's not William's mum. So after 10-20 years as Queen Consort, would she then lose her role entirely?

Just known as Queen Camilla, I'd guess.
KerryWeaver · 06/02/2022 12:55

So Charles can be King but Camilla isn't worthy of being Queen?

Hopefully, the OP is the only one who believes this piddle.

HTH1 · 06/02/2022 12:57

Did anyone read Sue Townsend’s book Queen Camilla? It’s brilliant and all about the royal family living on a rough council estate with all the other families on benefits.

SartresSoul · 06/02/2022 12:58

I don’t like her but I don’t like Charles either. I’d prefer to have no RF at all and become a republic tbh.

ClariceQuiff · 06/02/2022 13:00

@HTH1

Did anyone read Sue Townsend’s book Queen Camilla? It’s brilliant and all about the royal family living on a rough council estate with all the other families on benefits.
The first book, The Queen & I, is funnier!
BringBackThinEyebrows · 06/02/2022 13:02

@TheKeatingFive

To be clear from my end, I think Diana was appallingly treated by both the royals and her own family. But the idea that she would have known less about royal culture and what to expect than Meghan is just bizarre.
I didn't realise that women from aristocratic backgrounds are raised to be fully prepared to marry a future King by the age of 20. Every day's a school day Smile
TheKeatingFive · 06/02/2022 13:03

I didn't realise that women from aristocratic backgrounds are raised to be fully prepared to marry a future King by the age of 20. Every day's a school day

And I never said that either. Honestly reading comprehension on here has gone to pieces.

ClariceQuiff · 06/02/2022 13:04

I didn't realise that women from aristocratic backgrounds are raised to be fully prepared to marry a future King by the age of 20.

There's an enormous gap between 'knowing more than Meghan about how the British Royals live' and 'being fully prepared to marry a future king' !

EnterFunnyNameHere · 06/02/2022 13:05

@Viviennemary

Camilla was said to have told friends re Diana 'she's a mouse. She won't give any trouble.' Camilla made sure the marriage was doomed. A decent woman would have said go back to your wife and children. You are a married man. She didn't.
But you have no idea that she actually said that, it's totally anecdotal and could easily be bollox made up as something to flog to the press. After all, if they were actually her friends we'd never know what she said (they wouldn't have told anyone), and if they're not she wouldn't have told them anything like that.

Also, is this assuming men/Charles are so mentally and morally defective that all the responsibility for their infidelity is the fault of the woman? By that logic, maybe we should solely blame Diana for not being able to "keep her man"?

If the objection is based on the infidelity/leaving of the wife and kids, your argument should be that Charles does not deserve to be king, and the question of Camilla becomes redundant.

CrinklyCraggy · 06/02/2022 13:06

I never understood why Diana's family supported the marriage (well I did but for terrible reasons imo). Anyone who moved in those circles at the time knew what the situation with Camillia was, they all knew Diana was just there for appearances sake and that must have included her own family, who knowingly married her off to a man so much older, who didn't love her and had no intention of trying to.

StrawberryPot · 06/02/2022 13:06

I agree Diana would have know more about royal life than Meghan. But Meghan would have known far far more about people and relationships in general than Diana. She may have understood royal etiquette but, at 19 Diana was still idealistic and believed in her fairy tale. After all, Charles's own parents always presented the picture of a happy romantic marriage (which probably wouldn't have stood up to the scrutiny of today's social media and the tabloid press). So why would she think he wanted anything less for himself? People were getting very exercised about how long it was taking Charles to find a wife. Why would a naive 19 year old not think that was because he was waiting for the 'right one' so that must be her?

Meghan may not have understood royal protocol, but at her age she would have a far better understanding of people, relationships etc and recognised genuine love and compatibility.

sammylady37 · 06/02/2022 13:07

@Viviennemary

Camilla was said to have told friends re Diana 'she's a mouse. She won't give any trouble.' Camilla made sure the marriage was doomed. A decent woman would have said go back to your wife and children. You are a married man. She didn't.
A decent man wouldn’t have been fucking someone other than his wife but for some reason you don’t seem to blame Charles, nor have you started a thread about him not being suitable to be king. Why is that?
NiceShrubbery · 06/02/2022 13:08

@HTH1

Did anyone read Sue Townsend’s book Queen Camilla? It’s brilliant and all about the royal family living on a rough council estate with all the other families on benefits.
Lol HTH1 would the real Graham Cracknell of Ruislip please step forward. Or better still a female Charles and Camilla love child. The serfs need a bit more convincing that monarchy is a crap idea.
Cantleave · 06/02/2022 13:08

@Chichimcgee

I expect they’d both rather be pottering around doing their own thing.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he abdicated to William

We can live in hope! Can’t stand either Charles or Camilla. Actually, I would rather do away with any Royal Family.
TheKeatingFive · 06/02/2022 13:10

There's an enormous gap between 'knowing more than Meghan about how the British Royals live' and 'being fully prepared to marry a future king' !

Exactly. For what it's worth, I don't think anyone could be expected to know what it's like to marry into the royals. But someone who grew up in an aristocratic family with strong ties to the RF would have more understanding than almost anyone.

Pieceofpurplesky · 06/02/2022 13:11

I'd rather Queen Camilla than President Johnson.

If Charles' sons are ok with it then it's fine.

DrSbaitso · 06/02/2022 13:13

@cuparfull

People have V. SHORT memories... Camilla offered Diana up as a brood mare to Charles. It was she that suggested the unworldly young Diana given at that time Camilla was still married. Charles went to see Camilla on the eve of his wedding ( they were still carrying on) and he'd had a ring specially made with their name entwined on it. His heart was never in the marriage and his wife grew to know that. All the undermining of that young girl by those more worldly than her drove her to distraction. Total lack of support by all around Diana led to it all becoming tit for tat. Sadly was never going to end well.

But Camilla was complicit throughout! A malign influence in the marriage. I defy any wife to put up with such treatment.

What? How was Diana Camilla's to "offer up"?
Phormiumjester · 06/02/2022 13:13

We don't really know who said what about whom, though do we? I think people base their opinions on others based on The Crown and The Daily Fail!

TheKeatingFive · 06/02/2022 13:13

Meghan may not have understood royal protocol, but at her age she would have a far better understanding of people, relationships etc and recognised genuine love and compatibility.

Sure. At this point in time we have nothing concrete to suggest that hers and Harry's isn't a love match (I await the baseless speculation).

Diana wanted a love match that she was never going to get with Charles. That was her major problem.

babyjellyfish · 06/02/2022 13:14

Why on earth not? She's Prince Charles's wife.

TheKeatingFive · 06/02/2022 13:15

How was Diana Camilla's to "offer up"?

I don't understand this either. I get that camilla might have been happy with Diana as Charles' wife, but she had little power to make it happen if all the other parties weren't on board.

CrinklyCraggy · 06/02/2022 13:17

Diana wanted a love match that she was never going to get with Charles. That was her major problem.

But why didn't her family tell her? They must have known. Why did they let it go ahead for their 19yo without making sure she understood?

MayThePawsBeWithYou · 06/02/2022 13:17

Of course she wont be on coins or stamps, neither was Prince Phillip ,Charles will be King, she will be Queen Consort. Or maybe just Mrs King.