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To think that JK Rowling is being vilified for standing for women and children?

285 replies

ExtraPlinky · 05/02/2022 12:41

Getting sick of seeing her being torn down constantly on social media.
Her essays are thoughtful and careful and she's primarily concerned with safeguarding.

AIBU to say it's a witch hunt?

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334bu · 06/02/2022 11:14

www.volanttrust.org/

Over £ 8 ,000,000 donated to above trust from Ickabog project, all to fund charities set up to help women and children.
J K Rowling is a national treasure.

DrSbaitso · 06/02/2022 13:38

As ever, accusations of transphobia and generally acting above her station, and not a fucking peep as to why.

How does she put up with this hateful and downright lazy bullcrap? How is she still writing brilliant books for us to enjoy? How does she still have enough faith in humanity to give away so much of her wealth, to the point where she's actively choosing not to be a billionaire?

She's a legend.

ufucoffee · 06/02/2022 13:45

Bandwagon jumpers are spouting off about JK because they think it makes them look cool. It doesn't. They look stupid.

VestaTilley · 06/02/2022 13:47

Agree. I love her, and it is just a misogynistic witch hunt.

DdraigGoch · 06/02/2022 13:53

Just popping up again to see if @CorrBlimeyGG has provided any evidence to back up their wild accusations.

No? I'll get back to my Sunday...

heathspeedwell · 06/02/2022 13:57

JKR is a brilliant person and a gifted writer. The Strike books are a sheer joy to read.

She has also possibly done more to get children reading than any other living writer. Studies have shown that when kids read more it help them to develop empathy.

It's a shame that her detractors don't share her intelligence or her integrity. She knew that speaking up for women's rights would make life hard for her, but she did the right thing anyway.

She's very, very clearly on the right side of history.

DrSbaitso · 06/02/2022 14:08

Small side point: do be sure to get her books out of the library, even if you own them, to show support. Put in orders for the ones being held in other branches. Buy them on Kindle, paper and audiobook if you are able.

A fair chunk of the money is going to go to charity anyway.

Dragongirl10 · 06/02/2022 14:32

This thread has made my day, finally people are speaking out against the appalling abuse JK Rowling has suffered...

I am huge fan, l have read everything she has written on womans rights, and it totally mirrors my views and that or every woman l know.
Also she is not a tax dodger her immense success has resulted in hefty tax contributions, and vast donations to many important womens charities.
A woman of great moral character and substance, wish she was our PM....

DrSbaitso · 06/02/2022 14:50

Tax dodging? Is that the latest one?

Binglebong · 06/02/2022 17:48

@theemperorhasnoclothes

As PP have said the mob mentality is so damaging. I find it worrying how so many people including those who claimed to read and enjoy the HP books thoughtlessly parrot a slur without bothering to find out the truth.

I worry about the mental capacity and / or moral compass of those who say that the HP books are 'ruined' for them because JKR wrote a calm thoughtful essay about biological sex being real and important. They can't have read the books very thoroughly because they're behaving exactly like Dolores Umbridge and her enforcers - a nasty mob wanting to pull down one person for speaking the truth.. Harry Potter in the books (for saying Voldemort was real and had come back) and JKR in real life for saying biological sex is real (which it is obviously - do people these days really not know how human reproduction works? Of course they do, no-one is lining up for surrogate transwomen) .

Misogyny these days seems worse than ever - just look at the Met. JKR is one of the very few people in public life who give me hope for our daughters. She is a true hero.

I think I'm going to start calling TRAs Uxbridge Army. I'm sure JKR wouldn't mind and you've summed it up perfectly.
Gizacluethen · 06/02/2022 17:54

Threatening to rape and murder anyone is obviously vile.

I personally think she latches onto whatever "struggle" is going off into the world to stay relevant. But I wouldn't spit vitriol about it, alot of people are doing the same.

Binglebong · 06/02/2022 17:56

That should have said Umbridge's Army. Bloody autocorrect.

DrSbaitso · 06/02/2022 18:16

@Gizacluethen

Threatening to rape and murder anyone is obviously vile.

I personally think she latches onto whatever "struggle" is going off into the world to stay relevant. But I wouldn't spit vitriol about it, alot of people are doing the same.

Are you kidding??? She doesn't need to latch on to anything. She's the creator and author of Harry Potter; she could have retired for the rest of her life on that alone. But she's gone on to write numerous more books, and a new series that sold respectably even before word got out that it was her and it was thought to be some unknown newbie. And now they're number one bestsellers.

A shitload of people didn't even know there was an effort to get legal self ID in under the radar (as the Denton report shows, that was utterly intentional) and she shone a huge fucking light on it. She made it relevant, not the other way round. That's one huge reason why they're so furious with her. She blew their cover. Lumos indeed!

mummykel16 · 06/02/2022 18:35

Trigger/advisory warnings on harry potter, whatever next

EishetChayil · 06/02/2022 18:40

"Transphobia" is the new "communism". People are so afraid of being accused of it that all sense and reason goes out of the window.

EyesAsGreenAsAFreshPickledToad · 06/02/2022 18:41

@Viviennemary

She is too big for her boots. Can't stand her. Like the books though.
She's too big for her boots because she won't let "people," who send rape threats, silence her? Ok then.
YouSetTheTone · 06/02/2022 19:04

JKR’s essay was the moment when I actually even realised what was happening to women’s rights and the distortion of language around sex, biology, women, our bodies - and the devastating consequences. Since then I’ve contributed to numerous crowd funders, had a meeting with my MP, meetings with my local primary school about their PSHE guidelines, got them to correctly use sex not gender where appropriate on their website, given feedback (repeatedly) to the BBC, switched to The Times from The Guardian, informed many of my family and friends… She’s a bloody shero and once you see that she’s being hounded for supporting women it opens your eyes to EVERYTHING else that cries of ‘transphobia’ are used to try and suppress awareness of.

If JKR is seen as a ‘transphobe’ for standing up for women, doesn’t that in itself logically PROVE that ‘trans rights’ are in conflict with women’s rights? If women standing up for their rights are ‘transphobes’ aren’t TRA misogynist homophobes? Why are women seen as bitches for standing up for their rights and TRA applauded for doing the same thing? It’s rank misogyny under a pink, blue and white flag.

Love, love JKR. And have the stickers to prove it.

montysma1 · 06/02/2022 20:11

And misogynists conflate trans women with women.
Because, men are not women and cannot becone women.
That is not hate speach. it's science

CosmosLily · 07/02/2022 08:47

Some people simply don't like her, that doesn't mean it's a personal attack on her or on women's rights, they just don't like her and that's their prerogative. I dont really understand the "jealousy" comments and the like 🤷🏻‍♀️

Spookytooth · 07/02/2022 08:51

@CosmosLily

Some people simply don't like her, that doesn't mean it's a personal attack on her or on women's rights, they just don't like her and that's their prerogative. I dont really understand the "jealousy" comments and the like 🤷🏻‍♀️
What? all these people know her well and don't like her

Or all these people are misogynistic and hate to see successful women and don't like her.

She came from a wc background, wrote, entirely on her own, the biggest selling series of books of our time, gives millions to charity but - they don't like her, please explain.

CosmosLily · 07/02/2022 09:01

Spookytooth Its not impossible to simply not like someone despite their achievements, is it? You see it on here time and time again whenever there's a thread about "celebs you hate" or similar. You don't have to agree with peoples reasons, of course, but they're their own reasons which mean they don't like someone and that's their prerogative.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 07/02/2022 09:03

Dislike doesn't mean you have to slander or threaten someone though. I'm sure the majority of the world has no feelings whatsoever about her.

FOJN · 07/02/2022 09:06

Some people simply don't like her, that doesn't mean it's a personal attack on her or on women's rights, they just don't like her and that's their prerogative.

Absolutely but the thread is about JKR being vilified because she is standing up for the rights of women and children and you can't pretend that's not the case. Individuals who just don't like her is not the same thing.

CosmosLily · 07/02/2022 09:09

Yes, of course. I'm talking about a couple of people on this thread who have said they dont like her and have been met with a response of "jealously isn't attractive" (or something like that) and long posts kinda calling them out in disbelief. You can simply not like someone without being jealous of them or being against womens rights etc. I'm afraid I see it often on here whenever anyone mentions they dont like JKR, they're met with these types of comments and worse. It's just a bit silly imo.

WorriedMumsDontSleep · 07/02/2022 09:36

@CosmosLily

Yes, of course. I'm talking about a couple of people on this thread who have said they dont like her and have been met with a response of "jealously isn't attractive" (or something like that) and long posts kinda calling them out in disbelief. You can simply not like someone without being jealous of them or being against womens rights etc. I'm afraid I see it often on here whenever anyone mentions they dont like JKR, they're met with these types of comments and worse. It's just a bit silly imo.
Which posts. A lot of posters who have expressed dislike for her on this thread have form for accusing her of 'transphobia'.

Yeah, they're more subtle about it on aibu, but when you have seen people saying things like women wanting same sex end of life care is transphobia you can see through the wide eyed innocence a bit.

They obviously don't say all the batshit stuff on aibu because that would alert the general public.to the fact that we're all terms.