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Part 6 A thread for the continued enjoyment of Boris' downfall, enjoyment being important

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jgw1 · 04/02/2022 14:09

What the title says.

This will be the one where he resigns, so if please keep the whatabout to a minimum.

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boogiewithasuitcase · 07/02/2022 09:20

Larry the Cat will be blamed next for being more photogenic than Johnson and stealing the limelight from him. Grin

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2022 09:28

Dominic Grieve on Sky

I was Attorney General when Keir Starmer was director of public prosecutions.. & everyone knew Jimmy Savile was not his responsibility.. & when the PM tells a whopping lie that's put out by fascist right wing websites, that's a disgraceful thing to do

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2022 09:30

Javid on the other hand was defending Johnson and said it was time to move on.

BoodyDedalus · 07/02/2022 09:47

Just noticed the OP - that Johnson will be gone before this thread is full. Is that still likely? I may not be up to date, but I think only 14 MPs have admitted to sending letters to Graham Brady. There may be more who are keeping mum, but I would have thought that most would advertise the fact, pour encourager les autres.

Even if they do get to 54, something like a further 150 tory MPs are needed to boot Johnson out. Will we ever get rid of him this way? Sorry to sound despondent!

TheABC · 07/02/2022 10:14

I used to think that way; now I believe that every day Johnson stays in power is another opportunity for the Tory party to bury themselves in the shit.

He won't change so we can expect more half-arsed initiatives, more u-turns and more scandal. We have barely got going with the inquiries into the flat refurbishment, parties or PPE contracts. (will anyone ever be prosecuted for this, I wonder?) Then, there's the fact he "got Brexit done." I want him to be around a bit longer to suffer the full fallout from that negotiation.

I want the Tory party to suffer the same level of electoral anger (and oblivion) as the Lib Dems did after the Coalition debacle. Johnson offers the best chance of that happening.

MarchCrocus · 07/02/2022 10:17

@merrymouse

I think the ‘Carries fault’ line is part misogyny, part people trying to justify why they didn’t see this coming.
Yeah, definitely both of those.

There is also a third reason I think, which is that Johnson's attempt to save his own skin re the parties has meant him saying his wife has been at a number of work gatherings. That does actually raise a reasonable question of how involved she is in his work and why. He's throwing her under the bus himself.

Peregrina · 07/02/2022 10:24

Ashworth had some guff in his article about how much better BJ was when he was with Marina Wheeler as she could control him. Yh. Right. Multiple affairs and an undisclosed number of love children.

I suspect she wouldn't have sanctioned multiple parties, sorry ten minute work meetings. She has her own professional reputation to consider.

longwayoff · 07/02/2022 10:26

Agreed ABC, the longer it takes, the deeper the hole. Opposition can pull itself into some recognisable electoral prospect, hopefully, given some time. And Bozo can't stop digging.

BoodyDedalus · 07/02/2022 10:44

TheABC:
We have barely got going with the inquiries into the flat refurbishment

I thought that enquiry concluded in December, with the Tory party being fined £17,800 for failing to record accurately the donations made by Lod Brownlow?

ClaudineClare · 07/02/2022 10:45

Life for some of the elderly and ill under Johnson's government. This is a scandal.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/07/care-hotels-clinical-waste-nhs-beds-pandemic

SaturdayNext · 07/02/2022 10:49

I once went to an event in Steve Baker's constituency involving disabled children. He turned up with a researcher and did the rounds of parents, ostensibly showing great concern. Apparently afterwards he contacted the head of the national charity involved to ask them to send him lots of information about his constituency, saying he couldn't do it because he "only" had two assistants paid for by public money. Head of charity binned it, pointing out that that was two more assistants than he had. Sadly Baker's interest in his local council's approach to disabled children didn't seem to extend any further.

longwayoff · 07/02/2022 11:04

Years ago now, our Tory MP had the front to turn up, gurning and gladhanding, at the opening of yet another local Food Bank, great photo opportunity for him to grab the front page of the local paper saying how 'proud' he was to be there. Suggestions that hiding himself in shame as more appropriate fell on deaf ears. These people have no shame, don't know what it is and won't be experiencing it any time soon. Loathsome.

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2022 11:05

You really can't make this up

PM's new policy chief Andrew Griffith sets out his plan for a "sleeker no10 operation", more listening to MPs, and leaving "high-performing departments" to get on with it He suggests the PM could be early 80s Maggie- "an unconventional Conservative PM built an unusually broad coalition of support, secured successive large election majorities, confounded pessimists & radically improved the way the world and its own citizens perceived Britain..."

GreenLunchBox · 07/02/2022 11:11

@DePfeffoff

Given the current appalling delays before criminal trials are held, which is directly down to failure to invest in the criminal justice system, it's extraordinary that this government even dares to mention the subject, let alone to try to claim credit for it.
True I think it's extraordinary they do interviews at all. Does anyone know if they HAVE to?
BoodyDedalus · 07/02/2022 11:14

@DuncinToffee

Javid on the other hand was defending Johnson and said it was time to move on.
I thought Javid was very poor this morning, trying to claim that the delay in publishing the NHS recovery plan was due to Omnicron. He's norally quite good in batting back difficult questions, but today he sounded very much as though he was covering something up. It's not as if Omnicron is some sort of surprise that was unheard of last week, after all.
DuncinToffee · 07/02/2022 11:34
Grin We've been awaiting the findings of a Met Police investigation into lockdown gatherings held in Downing Street and Whitehall, but we now know one political leader has been cleared of breaking Covid rules.

Labour's Sir Keir Starmer was filmed drinking a beer in an office in the run-up to the Hartlepool by-election in April 2021.

But Durham police have reviewed the footage and say "no further action" will be taken as they "do not believe an offence has been established".

Starmer has previously insisted he was at a work meeting and had not broken the guidance, despite comparisons by his opponents to the party allegations at 10 Downing Street when restrictions were in place.

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2022 11:37

That was frim the BBC live blog

Agree with you on Javid BoodyDedalus, he was just repeating the script in a very unconvincing way.

longwayoff · 07/02/2022 11:39

Poor Javid, this constant dissembling is wearing him out.

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 11:42

I don’t feel remotely sorry for him. He’s colluding to help perpetuate this shitshow.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 07/02/2022 11:48

Larry the Cat will be blamed next for being more photogenic than Johnson and stealing the limelight from him.

That won't happen. Johnson NEVER tells the truth.

longwayoff · 07/02/2022 12:14

GrinBlossomtoes not sympathy, just wondering how much longer he can be wheeled out to defend the indefensible and what will happen when reality forces its way into his consciousness. And to all the others too. Kwaai Kwarteng yesterday was just, well, 😖.

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2022 12:36

Phew, the new No 10 spokesman Guto Harri has just said that Johnson is not a complete clown

All is fine now

jgw1 · 07/02/2022 12:56

@DuncinToffee

Phew, the new No 10 spokesman Guto Harri has just said that Johnson is not a complete clown

All is fine now

Not a complete clown?

Does he mean there is more work to be done on his clown act to finish it off?

I have to say I assumed Boris has been at these parties to entertain people as a clown, which is why he was working at the time. A clown at a birthday party is of course working.

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pussycatunpickingcrossesagain · 07/02/2022 13:05

Oh, I thought that meant that Boris was quite a lot of a clown...but wasn't fully qualified as he hadn't quite finished his apprenticeship to Donald 😂

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 07/02/2022 13:13

@DuncinToffee

Phew, the new No 10 spokesman Guto Harri has just said that Johnson is not a complete clown

All is fine now

So he acknowledges that he's a clown, just not a complete one. That's progress.