Nauseating Sunak

[Chippingbird23]

Really ‘I share your pain’! Who is kidding and he knows full well we know how rich they are. His wife is worth 174 million and he is worth a few million himself. This government is disgusting. Slow clap for voting for a bunch of criminals

He was drinking orange juice. More importantly, he attended the birthday party.

I thought it was taking part in the illegal gathering which mattered, not a prohibition on alcohol.

I don’t think he understands what people are going through.

Of course he doesn’t. Why would he? He’s never been anything except comfortable at the very least and now he’s obscenely wealthy. He hasn’t got a clue.

@Peregrina

I thought it was taking part in the illegal gathering which mattered, not a prohibition on alcohol.

It is. Despite what Sue Gray said about the drinking culture at number 10 it's the attendance at the party that's important.

This ' loan ' idea for the energy companies seems fishy to me but I can't put my finger on it , plus it's being forced onto everyone too. Lots of answered questions about it too today on the news round ups as well about how it'll work in practice , a few things need ironing out I think for those with payment meters etc.
Anyway , there are photos now on the internet of Rishi Sunak at one of these parties. Makes me wonder how many of them did go along to this ' work event ' to be ambushed by drinks.

Martin Lewis is saying the 'loan' is going to be:

Everyone gets a £200 bill reduction in October then from April next year everyone gets £40 added to their bill each year.

Everyone - regardless of whether you originally got the £200 or not.

twitter.com/martinslewis/status/1489584984235065344?s=21

@Tealightsandd

will never have a financial safety net to support them when bills increase but wages do not.

They also need to reverse Blair's war on the disabled (continued by all of his successors - Brown, Cameron, May, Johnson) and reinstate the safety net for some of society's most vulnerable - those too ill or disabled to earn a wage.

(very slow, drawn out delivery)

"We won't be doing that."

[quote ButterMeTimbers]Martin Lewis is saying the 'loan' is going to be:

Everyone gets a £200 bill reduction in October then from April next year everyone gets £40 added to their bill each year.

Everyone - regardless of whether you originally got the £200 or not.

twitter.com/martinslewis/status/1489584984235065344?s=21[/quote]
I saw somewhere that £68 of my energy bill is going to sub up the people who were with failed energy companies.

So I am paying directly for pisspoor regulation.

This is all because Conservative policies from the 80s when the government deregulated the energy companies from state ownership Chickens coming home to roost now so many have gone under and this is the result :(
Having to bail them out by stealth.

If only he was white and had an aristocrat title! Then he could truly show us how to live frugally in the most polite and classy way. Boris just won’t do anymore. We need new really posh leadership, none of this forrin rich sort!

But yes, all tories have no clue about the serfs.

@the80sweregreat

This is all because Conservative policies from the 80s when the government deregulated the energy companies from state ownership Chickens coming home to roost now so many have gone under and this is the result :( Having to bail them out by stealth.

Same with the water industry and pollution, billions spent on the EA for doing what the 'industry used to do.

But we voted for this, time and time again, so you can't really blame the Tories.

I wonder if it was Mexican Coke that Rishi was imbibing at the party

DGR I saw somewhere that £68 of my energy bill is going to sub up the people who were with failed energy companies.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60257448
Energy price rise includes £68 for failed firms, says Ofgem

Butterme, it is not "everyone". I don't get it as I am council tax band H. I think the band below me doesn't get it either. As ever if you work hard, do the right thing, buy a house for your family rather than drinking the money away and abandoning them you end up paying for everyone else...... sigh..

@Xenia

Butterme, it is not "everyone". I don't get it as I am council tax band H. I think the band below me doesn't get it either. As ever if you work hard, do the right thing, buy a house for your family rather than drinking the money away and abandoning them you end up paying for everyone else...... sigh..

Are you thinking of the council tax rebate? Martin Lewis was talking about the energy bill 'loan' which is going to apply to everyone (he says).

@dgrossetti you are paying for the privatisation of an essential service of strategic national importance that cannot be operated as a regulated private market successfully. My view (having worked in the energy industry) is that making ofgem more 'effective' will not really help consumers much as we are at the whims of private energy asset operators and how they choose to invest and operate. We are in the middle of a global gas crisis and rather than being able to use our own gas reserves to cushion the impact of this the private companies that operate them are gleefully filling their boots by exporting the majority of this gas internationally.

Apologies. Ignore me (we cannot delete the post sadly.....) I wasn't reading the thread properly and thought it was about the council tax rebate.

I certainly think it would be best to avoid all loans other than a mortgage if people can can. We have even avoided student loans in our family and I (perhaps stupidly) pay the fees and buy cars outright! However that is a Let them Eat Cake comment so I will disappear now..

I wish I could have paid my son's student loans , but we couldn't.
We did help him a lot with his rent though as he was only entitled to the minimum amount of the loans available
My Dh had a fairly well paid job at the time , but it was still hard and we had to sacrifice a lot to help him through Uni and he worked too whilst studying. Many students don't even get any parental help.

I do object to having to bail out the energy firms , but nothing I can do about it.

sunak is a teetotaler

A teetotaler who attended at least one lockdown party gathering

sunak is a teetotaler

OK that's good. It does mean that he's not likely to be trying to run the economy when drunk. But it's not relevant to whether he broke the lock down rules or not.

@dgrossetti you are paying for the privatisation of an essential service of strategic national importance that cannot be operated as a regulated private market successfully

Ironically I was working for British Gas when Sid struck, and they were flogged off.

The problem with the 80s style of economics was it was a direct clone of US policies. Where each state having it's own electricity company makes sense. However in the UK - which would easily fit inside over 50% of the US states and have room left over - it makes no fucking sense. (See also: water, gas and telecoms).

Decent regulation isn't nationalisation. But artificial profits aren't capitalism either.

But, as Alexei Sayle pointed out, despite the brutal Stalinist architecture of the 1960s in Britain, people were not spending their days in the windswept piazzas discussing Chekov and the finer points of Marxist economics. All they cared about was the Ford Cortina.

A very old friend of mine was all for private companies taking on the energy and rail companies , water etc etc. I also remember the ' don't tell Syd ' ads too ; British Gas went through it at that time and many lost their jobs. These same people moan a lot now about the higher prices , but forget the reasons why we now have this crisis.
Lots of shareholders have made a few quid since all this started as well, which was the ultimate aim of course. The free market economy, only works for some.

Some of the higher prices is paying for green energy- ie foreign companies to build wind farms. And all the pc panel paybacks.

Pv panel