Nauseating Sunak

[Chippingbird23]

Really ‘I share your pain’! Who is kidding and he knows full well we know how rich they are. His wife is worth 174 million and he is worth a few million himself. This government is disgusting. Slow clap for voting for a bunch of criminals

@the80sweregreat

I know many people who will still vote Conservative. It's entrenched , even if they moan about them. I've never voted for them , but my Dh and my family do and they are happy to be told their place and let the fat cats get away with it. It is a mystery , but there you go.

And this is what is destroying the UK.

It is, indeed, a mystery.

I'm happy I have a modest roof over my head and as long as I can have a cup of tea and a bed to sleep in , I feel pretty privileged
I don't want riches or exotic things , but a lot of that was a fairly poor , modest upbringing and learning to be thrifty ( no choice) and many years of struggling too. We were still lucky to have a house , many can't even do this these days.
I do take offense when a billionaire tells us to be happy with our lot though! Then put the prices up and expect people to just ' suck it up '
It feels wrong.

@Corcory

Sunak is the son of an immigrant Doctor and pharmacist. He got a scholarship. So not brought up to 'privilege' He is very bright. I think he meet his wife at Harvard. So she must be bright too. Not her fault she is the daughter of a billionaire.

No common sense though, has he? If he had any common sense, he'd know it was probably unwise to say something as trite as 'I feel your pain' when he won't be affected in any way by the prices of things going up. Well, apart from having to hear a lot of people being rightfully angry at the situation this country is now in. Sunak is a smug git, much like many of his fellow Conservatives, at this particular time.

@Brainwave89

Sunak is rich, so what?. He has a reasonably good plan to do what he can to address fuel poverty, but sadly he is right that there are limits on what he can achieve. Any cash he raises has to come from somewhere and UK tax rates are high enough in my opinion.

You are right. The problem as you can see is that people expect the government or taxes to pay the bills for them. Like in France apparently.

The best government is the one to give handouts not loans.

Laura K call him out of it yesterday during her interview , it was hard for him to admit that what he was saying was seen as coming from a position of immense privilege.
He just thinks that a 200 pound 'loan ' , that many might not even need to have , is the way to go for these energy rises instead of asking Shell and other energy companies to share out their profits instead. This won't happen with him in charge.

His family has more personal wealth than the Queen. It’s nonsense he could possibly have any idea how people are suffering when asked to cough up an extra £60 a month just to keep their homes warm & habitable.

@Corcory

Sunak is the son of an immigrant Doctor and pharmacist. He got a scholarship. So not brought up to 'privilege' He is very bright. I think he meet his wife at Harvard. So she must be bright too. Not her fault she is the daughter of a billionaire.

He was the son of immigrants but immigrant professional business owners. He did not get a scholarship to Winchester - some of his personal PR articles talk about his parents making "sacrifices" to pay the enormous fees (currently over 40k a year). Parents who can send their sons to Winchester by making a few "sacrifices" are extremely privileged.

He did win a Fulbright scholarship for Harvard from memory.

He's a tory.

Not giving a shit about anyone other than himself comes with the territory.

I'm more annoyed about the Andrew Bailey - a man who earns ~600k a year - suggesting that us mere plebs don't ask for a payrise.

Just fuck off you cunt.

Rishi might have got a scholarship to Harvard, but the fact that he met his wife there as a daughter of a millionaire isn’t a meritocratic win some people may think it is.

Wealthy people buy their children’s entrance to the most prestigious institutions through endowments. Essentially shoving as much money as possible to the institution. Look up legacy admissions, especially in the US.

It’s a win-win. Tax benefit, patina of philanthropy, and a Harvard/Oxbridge education for your offspring.

@WindyState

He's a tory.

Not giving a shit about anyone other than himself comes with the territory.

I'm more annoyed about the Andrew Bailey - a man who earns ~600k a year - suggesting that us mere plebs don't ask for a payrise.

Just fuck off you cunt.

Absolutely this

@the80sweregreat

I know many people who will still vote Conservative. It's entrenched , even if they moan about them. I've never voted for them , but my Dh and my family do and they are happy to be told their place and let the fat cats get away with it. It is a mystery , but there you go.

What's the alternative though (I have never voted Tory)? All the parties basically now answer only to their rich donors (hedge funds, banks, oligarchs, billionaires pushing agendas) and don't enact manifesto policies, it's like the electorate are irrelevant. I don't see Labour doing anything to help the ordinary person (they won't reduce house prices, immigration, won't make work pay, won't be tougher on crime, won't reduce taxes). Labour don't even want to recognise what a biological woman is. They are all hopeless.

Out of touch, he and his wife won’t be worried about their utilities and food bills. To be honest Boris doesn’t have a clue either, but Sunak would make an even worse PM IMHO.

You only had to watch him and his pals pissing themselves laughing at Rachel Reeves yesterday to realise how little they care.

I don't think that it's at all true that 'people expect the government to pay the bills for them.' And, at the moment that's a pretty callous statement.
People expect to be treated fairly. People are legitimately pissed off when they see the shareholders of fuel companies having billions passed on in dividends rather than those fuel companies being appropriately taxed so that the increase in energy prices doesn't end up crippling a vast number of consumers. Saying that people just want their bills paid for them is lazy and dismissive.

@tiktokontheclock

Also, I wonder how his wife got in to Harvard 🤨 She's not bright. She's rich. Daddy's rich.

How do you know she's not bright?

Sunak comes across as more out of touch with financial challenges than the other Tories. It is almost laughable that a person who is used to a budget-free existence is controlling the purse strings of government. A few decades of limitless privilege render childhood memories of poverty as picture book images and well out of one's emotional range. You can recall those times as facts but you cannot actually FEEL it anymore. I see the same in a wealthy sibling of mine.

That said, he probably wants to come across as a man of the people. He is thought to be behind Munira's departure as her husband is a close friend of his. He also commented that he 'wouldn't have said' what Boris did regarding Kier/Saville prosecution

This sums him up I think - Shell announce £20 billion profits because of rising oil prices. He dies not windfall tax this. However, he loans each of us £200 to pay him back in 4x£50 instalments so we can pay for the electricity produced by the oil sold by Shell.

Typical Tory - make money for the rich, fuck anyone else.

Oh I know they are all hopeless.
The gender ID subject is a big sticking point with Labour and they have fucked up enough historically too. I'm not saying that any of them are better, but at least Labour might make the big profits these companies make filter down a bit. Plus people have told me they find Rishi Sunak an inspiration which is a bit odd , but we are all entitled to our point of view and to aspire for a better life isn't a bad thing ( I play the lottery , but I never win it!)
I haven't the answers at all , but being out of touch is difficult to defend.
I wished we had people to vote for who really cared.

This is the man who came up with the eat out to help out wheeze in a pre vax pandemic. We thought it was lunacy at the time and as it turned out it managed to spread covid round a bit further and kill a few more people. It was a terrible terrible idea.

@UnconditionalSurrender

This is the man who came up with the eat out to help out wheeze in a pre vax pandemic. We thought it was lunacy at the time and as it turned out it managed to spread covid round a bit further and kill a few more people. It was a terrible terrible idea.

It was.

The Pizza Express chain is owned by the Chinese.
I boycott it ( it's over priced too) yet they made profits from the 'eat out to help out ' thing between lockdowns. Made more money for the fat cats! That's what that was all about.

Even if he was a genuinely decent, capable, competent politician, I don't think he could possibly do the job of PM. How can anyone with that level of personal wealth remotely understand the lives of ordinary people?

have not read the whole thread.
not really into politics so this is just my impression based reaction.

I do know that Sunak is £££££ rich.

But really, in all honesty, just because he is that rich does it really mean that Sunak is any more out of touch with the general public of the UK than Boris Johnson is?

At least with Sunak you get the impression you would get something a bit more logical / based on policy-not-personal-power-trip-egomania / not based on who Sunak is shagging at that time etc ??

"How can anyone with that level of personal wealth remotely understand the lives of ordinary people?"

But someone with the upbringing/family background/education/family money that Boris Johnson has had is far better placed to understand the financial position of the man in the street??

Never going to happen but DH and I are agreed our dream team would be Rishi and Lisa Nandy.