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To think this isn’t workplace bullying - or bullying at all?

185 replies

KingJeremyTheWickedd · 02/02/2022 08:40

Mainly a lurker here, but I’m going out of my mind worrying. There’s a bit of backstory but I think it’s all relevant. I’ll try to keep it as brief as I can:

I came back from maternity leave last year to an almost entirely new team. The only people who had stayed with the business was my manager and a colleague (call her A), everyone else moved on during the pandemic.
The rest of the team were new and mostly very pleasant. One colleague, B, seemed a bit cool and distant when we met, but our roles have little day to day cross over and we only worked in the office together on occasional days whilst I was settling back in after mat leave. We’re still mainly working from home and B’s day in the office is on a different day to mine. I’m not particularly concerned about having friends at work so I’ve not paid it much attention, just kept it friendly and polite but there were times where I felt she was being a bit short and rude.

Last week I came into the office on a different day due to an appointment - it was A and B’s regular day. A was talking about possible names for her baby, her DH likes the name Layla but they already have a Laura and she thinks their too similar. I said it may be worth thinking about them having the same initials as when I was at university I shared a house with someone with the same initial and surname as me and post was a nightmare, things got mixed up all the time as we had the same bank, gym, letters from the uni etc. B didn’t say much at the time other than it’s really difficult naming babies and Layla was a lovely name. It was just a brief conversation.

Last night, A sent me a text warning me that B is thinking of going to management because she was very unhappy with our conversation as she has two adult children with the same first initial and she didn’t like my comments on their lives being a nightmare. What????? Firstly, I did know she had a son and a daughter but I didn’t know their names had the same initial. secondly, my point about post getting mixed up wouldn’t be relevant as her children’s would be addressed Mr and Miss? A tried to defend me and say I didn’t mean it how she’s taken it but B is adamant about her taking this further as she “won’t be bullied in the workplace by anyone”. 8

I am so so embarrassed at the thought of her going to our manager. I absolutely love my job and they’ve been so flexible allowing me to work part time, chose days and hours etc. I’m trying to be rational and think my manager wouldn’t jump the gun without speaking to me but today’s not my working day so I’m panicking that when I get back B will have told her side and her mind will be made up. Not that my manager has ever given me any indication that he wouldn’t treat any issue with fairness I just feel so worked up.

If you were the manager after talking to both of us you would see this for what it is and not take it further?
YABU - this is workplace bullying
YANBU - this is a misunderstanding and not workplace bullying

OP posts:
godmum56 · 02/02/2022 12:01

well when your manager has stopped laughing.........

btw my sis and I have got the same first initial and when we lived at home and went to the same school, it was a nightmare because I kept getting into trouble for things she had done.....because the report list just had us by first initial surname.....once we moved out of home and went our own ways, it no longer mattered. I wouldn't do it deliberately (my parents didn't) but its not a massive deal.

stakhanovite · 02/02/2022 12:06

Frankly, if anyone's being bullied here it's you, OP. You made the effort to engage with a co-worker in a friendly way, and the punitive attitude she's showing is creating a toxic and stressful work environment (... is what I'd be getting ready to say if this nonsense gets anywhere near HR in your position)

KeepYaHeadUp · 02/02/2022 12:09

OP, hopefully you know she's being unreasonable. Please don't worry that anyone thinks you're a bully. You're clearly not.

Even if you DID know her children have the same initials the fact that you've expressed an opinion based on your personal experience that she doesn't agree with because her personal experience is different doesn't amount to bullying by any stretch of the imagination.

Let her flap and make a fool of herself and don't let her unreasonable behaviour force you to change yours.

Mylittlepotofjoy · 02/02/2022 12:10

She is being ridiculous!! My father and brother shared the same name and yes it was a nightmare with post . All letters addressed to Mr M and no idea who they were for . You were pointing out a possible future problem and not even talking to offended colleague

ForPingsSake · 02/02/2022 12:11

I don't think I've ever seen 100% agreement before!

If she complains they will think she is an idiot. Worry not.

To think this isn’t workplace bullying - or bullying at all?
IncompleteSenten · 02/02/2022 12:12

She's ridiculous.

Teateaandmoretea · 02/02/2022 12:14

eh? Grin

Totally agree OP, I have the same initial as my sibling.

girlmom21 · 02/02/2022 12:19

If you guys think initials are bad my sister and step sister share the same first name - we lived in the same house from a very young age.
One of the reasons my dad and step mom didn't marry when we were young was because my step sister said she wanted the same surname as her mom so my sisters would've both had the same first name and surname.

One of my step sisters also has a half sister on both sides with the same name - so one on her dads side and one on her moms side Grin

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 02/02/2022 12:20

We've found the answer to global warming! B has cultivated such a giant chip on her shoulder that it'll block out the sun.

She's a nutjob.

Teateaandmoretea · 02/02/2022 12:20

B is tipping you off by the way - you need to talk to your line manager ahead of this nonsense being embellished and coming out.

DwangelaForever · 02/02/2022 12:21

Is she serious 😶

KeepYaHeadUp · 02/02/2022 12:23

@Teateaandmoretea

B is tipping you off by the way - you need to talk to your line manager ahead of this nonsense being embellished and coming out.
I don't agree with speaking to your line manager first as far as the initials incident goes. It's a non-incident.

But it might be worth saying that A told you B has suggested you're bullying her and you're really worried that your interactions have been misconstrued. Make sure your line manager knows you are aware, disagree but are going out of your way to be sensitive based on this info passed on by A.

Fairylightsongs · 02/02/2022 12:24

I’d not say anything to your manager, wait and see if she does complain.

I’d also say nothing to thr woman, just pretend you don’t know. If I was her manager I’d be ver concerned about her if she raised this as a complaint.

madisonbridges · 02/02/2022 12:24

She's a plonker.

I don't think there's a problem with having the same initial, though. Worked out ok for the Kardashians.

3scape · 02/02/2022 12:26

My parents have the same initial i never understood why my mother took his name. It caused them enough problems that they definitely didn't want me and my siblings with the same initials at all. It is a thing. There are worse hic ups and inconvenience s in life, same initials are nice enough - but it's a fair warning.

ddl1 · 02/02/2022 12:29

That's certainly not bullying. Either she's misunderstood badly, or got a major chip on her shoulder, or both!

midsomermurderess · 02/02/2022 12:31

It's a very odd reaction but as someone else has said, you need to be cautious around her from now on if she can spin nothing into a complaint. And this is nothing. Don't be cold and sniffy, just very matter of fact, don't offer opinions, minimise interactions. There are oddballs everywhere, it's just bad luck one is at your work.

PearlclutchersInc · 02/02/2022 12:39

If its anything like my place of work, the manager would ignore it.

She's obviously a bit of a drama queen. Ignore it but keep an eye on her.

tigger1001 · 02/02/2022 12:40

My eldest has the same initial as his dad and now he's a teenager and has his own bank statements etc mail gets mixed up are the time. So I agree with you op.

The colleague seems nuts. It's not bullying in the slightest.

Yaya26 · 02/02/2022 12:40

Don't worry. If I was your manager I'd think she was stark raving mad (and a prat).

RollaCola84 · 02/02/2022 12:45

@Nietzschethehiker I've managed one of those as well, they're an absolute nightmare. Take everything as a slight, convinced the world is out to get them and take any attempt to pull them up on trying to pick fights over nothing as further evidence that everyone is out to get them. I feel sorry for your manager. I'd wouldn't pre empt anything with your manager, if you are asked about it you can respond honestly with incredulity.

MaudieandMe · 02/02/2022 12:49

Keep schtum for now but keep a screenshot of the text from A. You may need it later.

Currently, all you have is a bizarre text from A telling tales about B.

It may be completely made up for all you know at the moment and A creating drama for her own sad amusement.

Don’t respond other than an “OK, thanks for letting me know.”

Keep both A and B at arms length in the short term.

Sapphire387 · 02/02/2022 12:49

Trade union rep here. If B was one if my members, I would advise her against making a complaint about this. It is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

MrsToothyBitch · 02/02/2022 12:50

She's in the wrong. If anyone says anything, just point out that you had no idea her kids were called Topsy & Tim or whatever.

And fwiw, you're bang on. DPs two younger brothers share all of their initials and BiL2 and Fil also share their first name and currently all live together. So (false names here) but Giles Thomas Johnson, George Henry Johnson and Giles Henry Johnson are all at one postal address. DP moved out but mercifully has a different letter first name! You have to be VERY careful addressing the post. My ILs are estranged and FiL found out MiL filed for divorce from the kids, because the name thing meant one of the boys unintentionally opened the letter telling him.

RantyAunty · 02/02/2022 12:52

How ridiculous.
Ignore it and I wouldn't say any more to A about it either.

Thank goodness for WFH!

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