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To think this isn’t workplace bullying - or bullying at all?

185 replies

KingJeremyTheWickedd · 02/02/2022 08:40

Mainly a lurker here, but I’m going out of my mind worrying. There’s a bit of backstory but I think it’s all relevant. I’ll try to keep it as brief as I can:

I came back from maternity leave last year to an almost entirely new team. The only people who had stayed with the business was my manager and a colleague (call her A), everyone else moved on during the pandemic.
The rest of the team were new and mostly very pleasant. One colleague, B, seemed a bit cool and distant when we met, but our roles have little day to day cross over and we only worked in the office together on occasional days whilst I was settling back in after mat leave. We’re still mainly working from home and B’s day in the office is on a different day to mine. I’m not particularly concerned about having friends at work so I’ve not paid it much attention, just kept it friendly and polite but there were times where I felt she was being a bit short and rude.

Last week I came into the office on a different day due to an appointment - it was A and B’s regular day. A was talking about possible names for her baby, her DH likes the name Layla but they already have a Laura and she thinks their too similar. I said it may be worth thinking about them having the same initials as when I was at university I shared a house with someone with the same initial and surname as me and post was a nightmare, things got mixed up all the time as we had the same bank, gym, letters from the uni etc. B didn’t say much at the time other than it’s really difficult naming babies and Layla was a lovely name. It was just a brief conversation.

Last night, A sent me a text warning me that B is thinking of going to management because she was very unhappy with our conversation as she has two adult children with the same first initial and she didn’t like my comments on their lives being a nightmare. What????? Firstly, I did know she had a son and a daughter but I didn’t know their names had the same initial. secondly, my point about post getting mixed up wouldn’t be relevant as her children’s would be addressed Mr and Miss? A tried to defend me and say I didn’t mean it how she’s taken it but B is adamant about her taking this further as she “won’t be bullied in the workplace by anyone”. 8

I am so so embarrassed at the thought of her going to our manager. I absolutely love my job and they’ve been so flexible allowing me to work part time, chose days and hours etc. I’m trying to be rational and think my manager wouldn’t jump the gun without speaking to me but today’s not my working day so I’m panicking that when I get back B will have told her side and her mind will be made up. Not that my manager has ever given me any indication that he wouldn’t treat any issue with fairness I just feel so worked up.

If you were the manager after talking to both of us you would see this for what it is and not take it further?
YABU - this is workplace bullying
YANBU - this is a misunderstanding and not workplace bullying

OP posts:
Mellowyellow222 · 02/02/2022 11:04

This woman is unhinged!

Please ignore her. I manage 30 people and if someone came to me with this complaint I would be very concerned about them. It’s not rational.

Calennig · 02/02/2022 11:08

If this isn't dismissed in one fell swoop by your manager, then watch your back, keep any emails, document.

This though B may not go near management when it comes to it.

Actually wished soemone had pointed this out to me - I have same inital and surname as one of our DD - it does cause issues with post.

Oddly enough FIL had last few year regailed us with similar stories as he has same inital and surname as his brothers - what makes it worse is surname is unusual and not common and he's a twin. NHS and banks do argue with him till he clicks and asks if they've perhaps got his twin brothers file - he seems to enjoy to the shit look that causes.

Blahblahblah40 · 02/02/2022 11:09

Hahaha. B is a loon! If the manager is worth their salt they will get both sides of the story plus A’s opinion on the matter, then tell B they believe it to be a misunderstanding. Do not let it bother you, go about your business at work as normal and be polite/helpful when and if you see B.

Ivecomeoutoflurking · 02/02/2022 11:12

Oh is she ok hun 😂😂

What a silly complaint. She didn't even have to sit there quietly she could have weighed in to the conversation and said "how strange I have two children with the same initial and we don't have that problem with post" or she could have gone down the "oh yes I agree I have two children with that initial and it is a nightmare" route.

For what It's worth I agree too it is a nightmare! I always said I wouldn't have siblings with the same initial and then for some odd reason my eldest son has my initial and my middle son has my husband's initial and when the post comes without prefixes then it is a bloody nightmare. Lesson learnt with the third son he has his own initial!!!!

strawberry2017 · 02/02/2022 11:14

I know people who have had that exact issue with names.
It's not bullying at all, to complain just makes her look ridiculous.

Wheresthebeach · 02/02/2022 11:14

Bonkers. Frankly I doubt she'll do it, she's just stirring.

If she does, then she'll look a fool. You're the one being bullied here, not her. She wants to scared to say anything so steer well clear but keep everything bright and breezy.

Oblomov22 · 02/02/2022 11:15

Good God, she is a nightmare isn't she?

jobsagudden · 02/02/2022 11:17

She sounds nuts! Just ignore her! For your own peace of mind ring your manager to chat it through!

ToykotoLosAngeles · 02/02/2022 11:18

She sounds like a maniac who resents you coming back to an environment she’s established herself in while you were on mat leave.

This is the exact reason. It happened to me, too. New colleague in my team established a rapport with our manager and the marketing team who sat near us. I came back having been there 11 years and she was... jealous I guess? I got daggers for 4 months until she left.

TatianaBis · 02/02/2022 11:18

She sounds like some poster on MN: taking someone else’s discussion very personally and getting offended by it.

She’s loon OP, don’t sweat it.

SofiaSoFar · 02/02/2022 11:19

As a manager I'd appreciate B giving me the heads up like this.

That way, next time it came to looking at cost-cutting I'd have the first name for the list of who to consider letting go.

Wink
FlapsInTheWind · 02/02/2022 11:24

@WeAreTheHeroes

Treat this as a warning about this person. Make a record of what's happened and email it to yourself. Don't involve yourself in non-work related conversations with her unless directly asked and even then don't express an opinion.

Similar thing happened to me with a colleague a few years ago. From then on I only talked about work matters. She was an insecure bully and eventually came unstuck when she couldn't manipulate me for her own ends.

This.

I would get cover from a union immediately so you back up in the future if need be but if the manager took this seriously she would be no manager in the true sense.

You now know what this woman is. Use that knowledge going forward and don't speak to her unless you have witnesses. She is creating an insane work environment but you must protect yourself.

Go in, do your work, go home, be happy. This are the jobs I have enjoyed the most over the years to be honest.

It's not you. Put it that way!

Zeewest · 02/02/2022 11:26

My husband and daughter had this problem, unless ms/Mr specified he always opened Her mail, I agree if it could be avoided don't do it

RosieLemonadeAndSugar · 02/02/2022 11:27

I hope the management laugh at her like I laughed at this.

She's batshit. What a non drama. Bullying. She's clearly never been bullied in her life. Just keep away from her in future and don't speak to her at all unless you really have too! I sometimes think work is worse than the school playground!

IntermittentParps · 02/02/2022 11:29

@WeAreTheHeroes

Treat this as a warning about this person. Make a record of what's happened and email it to yourself. Don't involve yourself in non-work related conversations with her unless directly asked and even then don't express an opinion.

Similar thing happened to me with a colleague a few years ago. From then on I only talked about work matters. She was an insecure bully and eventually came unstuck when she couldn't manipulate me for her own ends.

Totally agree with this. Her proposed actions are loony, but worth a note to self for the future.
eurochick · 02/02/2022 11:30

As someone with responsibility for a fairly large team I would be absolutely baffled if someone came to me complaining about this. What a waste of time and energy.

2ndtimemum2 · 02/02/2022 11:32

As someone who has a sister with the same first initial as me it is a Disaster!!! We constantly got mail mixed up it was even worse cause we were in the same bank and the letters only came with the first initial.

It is a non issue because it is your opinion on your own experience so it would not in any way fall into the category of bullying.

Echobelly · 02/02/2022 11:32

It might have been bullying if you'd known she had two adult children with the same initial and had said 'Anyone who gives their kid the same initial is a total moron, don't you agree?', but as you didn't know and just mentioned an anecdote about someone who happened to find a problem with it that's not the case. I'd say the minimum and let this person just get hung out by their own behaviour.

Heronwatcher · 02/02/2022 11:36

She’s batshit. But as others have said, be very very careful around her. You do not want to get sucked into this nonsense however ridiculous. Keep emails and notes of any weird conversations and don’t engage in any discussions about her in the workplace which could be classed as victimisation. If she or anyone else approaches you about a complaint, just say she should raise it with a manager and it would be unprofessional to discuss it. You’ll likely not have to do this for long as she’ll probably be off sick/ stress/ because of a complaint about someone else!

KindleBeKind · 02/02/2022 11:39

This sounds very odd. Is there more to this - have you had a fall out with her?

Liverbird77 · 02/02/2022 11:41

What. A. Twat.
Don't waste any further energy worrying. You were perfectly reasonable.
Personally, I wouldn't engage in any further conversation with B from now on. Be polite, be professional but absolutely no small talk or personal information. She's out to get you.

EmergencyPoncho · 02/02/2022 11:46

Let her, she is being a total tit.

Thelnebriati · 02/02/2022 11:57

Don't engage with A about this, and keep the texts.

Polyputthekettleon · 02/02/2022 11:59

Unfortunately we seem to be living in a society where everyone is looking for something or anything to be offended by. She's looking for a reason to be offended and to have her 5 minutes of fame. Let's see how that works out for her Smile

tillytoodles1 · 02/02/2022 11:59

I had neighbours with three children. All five of them had first names starting with J.

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