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To think this isn’t workplace bullying - or bullying at all?

185 replies

KingJeremyTheWickedd · 02/02/2022 08:40

Mainly a lurker here, but I’m going out of my mind worrying. There’s a bit of backstory but I think it’s all relevant. I’ll try to keep it as brief as I can:

I came back from maternity leave last year to an almost entirely new team. The only people who had stayed with the business was my manager and a colleague (call her A), everyone else moved on during the pandemic.
The rest of the team were new and mostly very pleasant. One colleague, B, seemed a bit cool and distant when we met, but our roles have little day to day cross over and we only worked in the office together on occasional days whilst I was settling back in after mat leave. We’re still mainly working from home and B’s day in the office is on a different day to mine. I’m not particularly concerned about having friends at work so I’ve not paid it much attention, just kept it friendly and polite but there were times where I felt she was being a bit short and rude.

Last week I came into the office on a different day due to an appointment - it was A and B’s regular day. A was talking about possible names for her baby, her DH likes the name Layla but they already have a Laura and she thinks their too similar. I said it may be worth thinking about them having the same initials as when I was at university I shared a house with someone with the same initial and surname as me and post was a nightmare, things got mixed up all the time as we had the same bank, gym, letters from the uni etc. B didn’t say much at the time other than it’s really difficult naming babies and Layla was a lovely name. It was just a brief conversation.

Last night, A sent me a text warning me that B is thinking of going to management because she was very unhappy with our conversation as she has two adult children with the same first initial and she didn’t like my comments on their lives being a nightmare. What????? Firstly, I did know she had a son and a daughter but I didn’t know their names had the same initial. secondly, my point about post getting mixed up wouldn’t be relevant as her children’s would be addressed Mr and Miss? A tried to defend me and say I didn’t mean it how she’s taken it but B is adamant about her taking this further as she “won’t be bullied in the workplace by anyone”. 8

I am so so embarrassed at the thought of her going to our manager. I absolutely love my job and they’ve been so flexible allowing me to work part time, chose days and hours etc. I’m trying to be rational and think my manager wouldn’t jump the gun without speaking to me but today’s not my working day so I’m panicking that when I get back B will have told her side and her mind will be made up. Not that my manager has ever given me any indication that he wouldn’t treat any issue with fairness I just feel so worked up.

If you were the manager after talking to both of us you would see this for what it is and not take it further?
YABU - this is workplace bullying
YANBU - this is a misunderstanding and not workplace bullying

OP posts:
DrSbaitso · 02/02/2022 10:24

If you were the manager after talking to both of us you would see this for what it is and not take it further?

I'd defuse her as much as possible without bad mouthing you and get her our of the office as quickly as possible so I could laugh my bum off.

Viviennemary · 02/02/2022 10:25

I agree that B has outed herself as a bit nuts. I wonder if A is being a stirrer telling you. B might not even go to management at all.

KatherineJaneway · 02/02/2022 10:26

Former HR here, this is not bullying.

JudgeJ · 02/02/2022 10:28

@JammyRascal

Hahha oh I'd love to the manager she approaches with this (non) issue.

She's being an absolute twat. I'd ignore her. I'd say she has form for this and unfortunately you're her chosen target. If it wasn't this, it'd be something else just as ridiculous further down the line.

Management will see through it. Never worry.

The problem for managers, HR etc is that these nutcases have to be taken seriously and the 'offence' investigated, possibly resulting on a note on OP's personnel file. Maybe we need someone in HR to be able to say Grow up!
HaggisBurger · 02/02/2022 10:28

Dear God in heaven …. Save us all from workplace snowflakes. Really. To think that people can deem ANYTHING anyone says that they vaguely dislike as workplace bullying is insanity. And also really bloody unhelpful to those who are the victim of genuine bullying or harassment. I’ve heard it all now.
If anything SHE is bullying you with spurious claims from an anodyne conversation.

Blacksheepcat · 02/02/2022 10:28

She’s batshit. Show your manager the votes above (100% not your fault). Don’t talk to her at all, or anywhere around her in future.

OkSpiritualknot · 02/02/2022 10:30

I was hounded out of a job I'd been in for over 20 years by someone like this. She accused me of bullying her. I thought she'd never be taken seriously, because it was all so ridiculous. I was wrong.

If this isn't dismissed in one fell swoop by your manager, then watch your back, keep any emails, document.

Hope you manager treats this with the indifference it deserves....

Progress2019 · 02/02/2022 10:30

Oh she’s pathetic!

Totally agree with you about initials. My brother has the same one as my dad, and it definitely caused confusion. Other brother has the same one as my mum, and there were no problems due to Mr/Mrs. Equally I have the same one as my youngest, and we haven’t had problems due to miss/Mrs, but we would if it was both my daughters

My friends kids all have the initials LJT which must be bloody annoying

TyrannosaurusRegina · 02/02/2022 10:33

Your manager will see her for the pathetic idiot that she is, don't worry.

FelicisNox · 02/02/2022 10:37

Let her get on with it... she will look extremely stupid.

As a manager there is no way I'd take her side.

She needs to chill her beans.

Coconuttts · 02/02/2022 10:37

HR person here. This will red flag her, more than you.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 02/02/2022 10:38

If this is bullying, I'm a banana.

She's a loon, OP, and I wouldn't pay any attention to her accusations because they aren't going anywhere. If I was the manager or HR she approached I'd struggle to keep a straight face. But I would take it as a warning as to what B is like.

Gonnagetgoing · 02/02/2022 10:40

She's bullying you more like.

She sounds absolutely nutty.

SeasonFinale · 02/02/2022 10:41

There is not even a misunderstanding. She is just a loon.

theemmadilemma · 02/02/2022 10:42

If one of my team came to me with this I'd be struggling to keep straight faced.

Sadly, I would have too. My approach here would be to gently explain that I think she may have taken a general observation a little too personally, and I would explain it isn't bullying etc. however the conversation needed to go. I would confirm I would let you know that your conversation had upset her, but that other than that I would not be taking any action against you, as nothing other than a miscommunication had happened.

Fairyliz · 02/02/2022 10:45

This will be one of those occasions when the manager will wish she hadn’t taken on the job, having to deal with your batshit colleague.

MintJulia · 02/02/2022 10:45

If she complains, she's going to look very silly. Does she think managers have nothing better to do than adjudicate in pointless non-work random discussions? What a time waster!

theemmadilemma · 02/02/2022 10:47

@Fairyliz

This will be one of those occasions when the manager will wish she hadn’t taken on the job, having to deal with your batshit colleague.
This is people management full stop. Grin
AllOfUsAreDead · 02/02/2022 10:55

@user1473878824

She’s going to look like a complete tit, don’t worry about it.
This. If I was A, I would have probably encouraged B to go for the laugh. This is 101 on how to make yourself look like a twat.
Onlyhuman123 · 02/02/2022 10:55

you haven't bullied her at all and hopefully your manager will put her back in her box.

God, why are some people so precious?!

If she goes to management, isn't she the one who's a bully?!

Abhannmor · 02/02/2022 10:56

Any manager worth their salt would just tell her to get over it.She sounds like a conniving bully herself tbh. Let her proceed.

3peassuit · 02/02/2022 10:58

She’s outed herself as a bit of tit to her line manager.

BigYellowHat · 02/02/2022 11:00

What an idiot! It’s probably best she gets her side in first so the manager can hear how utterly ridiculous it sounds.

Abhannmor · 02/02/2022 11:00

@Viviennemary

I agree that B has outed herself as a bit nuts. I wonder if A is being a stirrer telling you. B might not even go to management at all.
Hmm. Good point. For now I would only speak to them on work related topics . Or the weather. Can the weather trigger people?
LindaEllen · 02/02/2022 11:02

She is being an absolute knob. Don't worry about it for another second.

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