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Boris - new low

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daimbarsatemydogsbone · 01/02/2022 16:50

Obviously he's running scared from his own side as well and Labour and the excellent contribution from Ian Blackford - no doubt Dennis Skinner would have done the same if still an MP.

However, there was no need for Johnson to stoop to the level of more lies - this time trying smear Kier Starmer with untrue allegations about Jimmy Savile.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/60213975

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StoneofDestiny · 04/02/2022 21:16

ten minute parties

Aye right - that'll be the official report from the party time keeper is it?

StoneofDestiny · 04/02/2022 21:20

Another Tory party here

Boris - new low
Blossomtoes · 04/02/2022 21:25

Anyone listening to Any Questions this evening?

Saving it until tomorrow so I can listen to Any Answers straight afterwards. I’m looking forward to it now.

Blossomtoes · 04/02/2022 21:26

Oh do give over @StoneofDestiny. Every bloody thread.

Parker231 · 04/02/2022 21:28

It’s the getting rid of the empties into the recycling without any one seeing which could be a problem!

Boris - new low
TheRealMrsMac · 04/02/2022 21:31

And that's only Theresa May's back doorstep...

ClaudineClare · 04/02/2022 21:31

@MrsSkylerWhite

Old chum. Oops 🤣 predictive text, honest.
That typo really made me laugh!😅 It was very apt.
StoneofDestiny · 04/02/2022 21:45

Oh do give over @StoneofDestiny. Every bloody thread

Yep - people have short memories

Rosscameasdoody · 04/02/2022 21:54

@MrsSkylerWhite

JaniieJones

'I think we also agree that it would be inappropriate for a 56 year old Prime Minister to have a birthday party when denying that to millions of children.'

A bit of cake in an office for 10 mins isn't a party.

Do you often have 10 min parties?“

Millions would have given anything for ten minutes, or even one, with their loved ones as they passed.

It was illegal, as were many Downing Street “gatherings”, or whatever the fuck you tell yourself they were to minimise them. You’re just wrong. Either you voted for the idiot and can’t acknowledge how wrong you were or you didn’t observe the law, either.
No other reasons for defending this bloody shower.

This. Doesn’t matter if the parties lasted 10 minutes or 10 seconds it’s the principle and the contempt shown to thousands of people who couldn’t even spend 10 minutes with loved ones who were sick or dying. Why are some people hell bent on defending this come what may ?
Peregrina · 04/02/2022 22:42

Johnson's Government and Principles?

SmallThingsEverywhere · 05/02/2022 07:28

As mentioned by a PP, people are so easily played. I’m baffled by working class people who defend him. He’s not their mate. Not only is he the worst of “The Establishment” and displays full-on entitled behaviour, in 1995 he wrote this in The Spectator.
“ The modern British male is useless. If he is blue collar, he is likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless, and perhaps claiming to suffer from low self-esteem brought on by unemployment."

jgw1 · 05/02/2022 07:30

@SmallThingsEverywhere

As mentioned by a PP, people are so easily played. I’m baffled by working class people who defend him. He’s not their mate. Not only is he the worst of “The Establishment” and displays full-on entitled behaviour, in 1995 he wrote this in The Spectator. “ The modern British male is useless. If he is blue collar, he is likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless, and perhaps claiming to suffer from low self-esteem brought on by unemployment."
Is he describing himself?
SmallThingsEverywhere · 05/02/2022 07:33

Sounds like he is Grin

SueSaid · 05/02/2022 08:18

'It was illegal, as were many Downing Street “gatherings”, or whatever the fuck you tell yourself they were to minimise them. You’re just wrong. Either you voted for the idiot and can’t acknowledge how wrong you were or you didn’t observe the law, either'

Well we'll have to wait and see if 10mins in an office with colleagues was illegal won't we. I think not but maybe the Met will think it did, we don't know at this stage do we.

I did observe the law yes.

DePfeffoff · 05/02/2022 08:22

There was absolutely nothing in the law that said an indoor gathering that wasn't necessary for work was OK provided it was only 10 minutes. Indeed, it would have been mad if it did, given that the virus doesn't handily wait around for 10 minutes before it passes from one person to another.

SueSaid · 05/02/2022 08:32

These threads are very reminiscent of the brexit threads. Mocking and sneering, calling people stupid for having another opinion.

If he resigns I certainly won't be devastated but for now he is the best person for the job as he has been for the last 2years, he has done much right.

WHO has said we will be one of the first to emerge out of the pandemic, (others predict a strong economy). This is good news, no?

'There was absolutely nothing in the law that said an indoor gathering that wasn't necessary for work was OK provided it was only 10 minutes'

People gathered in staff rooms and communal areas all the time. Also, what about the numerous nhs tiktok clips. All the illegal dancing that certainly wasn't necessary for work, should the Met investigate them?!

countrygirl99 · 05/02/2022 08:35

Back to the all the others are even more shit argument then

Peregrina · 05/02/2022 08:38

You say that people gathered in staff rooms and communal areas "all the time." How do you know?

I recall a large wedding party was broken up. We certainly heard of a number of other cases where people did gather and were handed out stiff fines.

NETSRIK · 05/02/2022 08:44

@JaniieJones

'It was illegal, as were many Downing Street “gatherings”, or whatever the fuck you tell yourself they were to minimise them. You’re just wrong. Either you voted for the idiot and can’t acknowledge how wrong you were or you didn’t observe the law, either'

Well we'll have to wait and see if 10mins in an office with colleagues was illegal won't we. I think not but maybe the Met will think it did, we don't know at this stage do we.

I did observe the law yes.

We all know it was wrong. Nothing to wait and see about.
Parker231 · 05/02/2022 08:47

The 10 minutes is irrelevant. It’s that he blatantly broke the law, his laws, on many occasions whilst telling the public that we couldn’t see people. He has lied and lost the trust.
When, not if, he is kicked out, I will celebrate and have zero sympathy for him.

Chippingbird23 · 05/02/2022 08:50

[quote daimbarsatemydogsbone]Obviously he's running scared from his own side as well and Labour and the excellent contribution from Ian Blackford - no doubt Dennis Skinner would have done the same if still an MP.

However, there was no need for Johnson to stoop to the level of more lies - this time trying smear Kier Starmer with untrue allegations about Jimmy Savile.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/60213975[/quote]
But it isn’t entirely false is it now? He is corrupt and Keir didn’t investigate it. They are all corrupt every single one of them so stop pretending that this is a new low. They know about each other and are turning on each other. Wake up

SueSaid · 05/02/2022 08:54

'You say that people gathered in staff rooms and communal areas "all the time." How do you know'

How do you think I know? I have family and friends and many work for the nhs where sitting together in groups in staff areas eating dominos was common. Not breaking the law because workplace gatherings where pizzas (or even cake!!) were consumed was allowed.

I'm not talking about the 1am civil service party that clearly wasn't during work hours but we'll have to wait and see how many of the others broke work place rules.

All the sneering at Dorries is just horrible. If we say anything critical about Angie it's 'misogyny' but it's open house for Dorries on the other BJ echo chamber thread, part 6?

countrygirl99 · 05/02/2022 08:54

Branch staff at the bank I work for were taking it in turns to have lunch one at a time. Although they were only open 10-2 they were still in manning the telephone banking lines that were really busy the rest of the time. It meant that in bigger branches lunch break could be at 10am or 3pm.
My very elderly and frail dad was in and out of hospital with no visitors. On 2 occasions a consultant phoned and asked me to prepare mum for the worst and I had to do that but tell an old lady with alzheimers that she still couldn't see her husband of over 60 years for even a 10 minute visit and she might never see him again.
A friend of the family lost her husband of over 60 years having not seen him for 2 months.
And all the time Boris was drinking and socialising at his little gatherings.

Parker231 · 05/02/2022 08:59

@JaniieJones
If he resigns I certainly won't be devastated but for now he is the best person for the job as he has been for the last 2years, he has done much right.

What has Boris actually done right - I can’t think of anything??

ancientgran · 05/02/2022 09:06

I don't think it is worth arguing about if there was cake or cheese or if it lasted 10 minutes of half an hour. He lied about it in parliament. If it was OK to present the boss with a birthday cake and sing happy birthday why didn't he say that, if it was OK to have a leaving do why not say that, if a Christmas quiz with him sitting between 2 people was within the law why didn't he say that.

He didn't say any of it because he knew, even if his supporters don't, that all those things were against the law.

Finally I would still like to know why his wife was sitting at a business meeting in the No 10 garden on I think 15th May? We have been told that the photo of them all out in the garden was OK as it was work, well she isn't elected and she isn't employed so why is she involved in running the country.