[quote billy1966]@Marvellousmadness, at the moment this is YOUR problem.
The key with issues like this is to make it THEIR problem.
Call them away from whatever they are doing and stand by as they clean.
Tell them the next time they are called away, their will be no tv, technology, etc.
Make it inconvenient for THEM.
When my kids would come in from school and throw things around I would first call them for their shoes to be put away, allow them go back upstairs THEN call them to put away their coat, allow them to go back upstairs, then call for the bag.
Drove them mad, but it worked.
First they came down and put everything away in one go and then to avoid being called they put their stuff away as tgey entered.
That included lunch boxes etc.
Make it their problem.
Stand over them until it is perfect.
Make yourself to be a complete PITA.
They will get it very quickly.
Telling them you will wipe the pee up with their top, and do it, and leave it on the floor.
Watch the reaction, there will be outrage, but you just smile and tell them they were warned.
I simply wouldn't put up with this.
Stop doing other things for them.
Stop driving them.
Stop buying foods they like.
Stop being tolerant.
Don't get upset, get even.
Withdrawing courtesies and kindnesses are what work when teens are not co operating.
My boys shower was a mess and I handed it over to their father to sort, with the promise that the shower head would be removed the next time he had to speak to them about it.
2 weeks on and it is in good shape.
Make it THEIR problem.😁[/quote]
You’re a genius..I’m taking notes.