Boris Downfall Part 5

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Jack Doyle resignation breaking...

If you're (very) right wing, I can understand you being happy.

But anyone who identifies as being on the left might want to hold back their cheers. That is if they care at all about the vulnerable, or even the not yet vulnerable - the doing just about alrights (for now...).

Of course people are free to not care. Even to not admit it. Personally I respect honesty but it's not for everyone.

@Tealightsandd

Ken Clarke, the tobacco man! 🚬👍

Anyone who knows my posts will know of my desire for an end to the anti smoking crusade.

Smoking would help relieve the cost of living crisis.

www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/2017/08/smoking-and-drinking-save-public-purse-money

I'm not his biggest fan but, hey yeah why not. I'm up for that.

Bring back Ken! (not Livingstone).

I'm not a fan of all of his policies, but at least he always gave the impression of caring about people and wanting to do what he thought was best for the country.

@Piggywaspushed

Jack Doyle resignation breaking...

It certainly appears to be escalating.

Wonder how many of those letters are with Brady.

@thecatfromjapan

Yep.

I love it when the Conservatives start the hunt for a New Leader.

Like the Hunger Games.

And Johnson clinging on promises to make it extremely protracted and nasty.

Sadly, I'm not sure any of the other contenders have as ruthless a team behind them as Sunak.

So we may not witness the joy of a rival faction leaking damaging stuff about NouveauRishi.

Which is a shame.

We've put up with so much crap from this government - we deserve a proper gladiatorial riot of backstabbing.

Will Gove stand for it?

I hear what you're saying, Tealights.
But, you know, a lot of us here have always thought the basic trajectory of the Conservative Party was/is towards the ERG - that was part and parcel of the tragedy of Brexit.

That (continued) move to the (further) economic right is something a lot of us have factored in.

We know there is nothing we can do about it. Except wait it out, call it out, and hope for a better result in another GE.

Taking a small amount of joy in Johnson's evisceration is ... well, it's stopping to smell the roses amidst the devastation. It's hearing the wild song from the woods during a day of grind that feeds the soul's hunger for hope ....

It's not an unknowing delight. It's a shade of violet made brighter by knowledge of the surrounding dark.

I think that's a fair summary tealights, chills the blood. Watching the front bench ERG supporting Bozo, or at the least, not condemning him, is quite interesting. Leaving him to stab himself while they sit back waiting for him to fall. Clean hands all round.

Nope.

Gove is done as a Leadership contender.

@Grantanow

The new Sunak energy loan is a scam. We get a discount now and pay it back in future years - costs the Treasury nothing despite the government creating the rotten energy market. We are now paying the price of their blunders. And the price is likely to go up in the autumn!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. If I am already struggling or am going to be soon to keep my house warm, how would deferring that improve my lot except in the very short term. Fuel and all prices are going to go up and then the Chancellor adds in this bizarre scheme.

What is wrong with removing VAT on fuel and a windfall tax on the obscene profits of the oil and gas companies?

@Tealightsandd

If you're (very) right wing, I can understand you being happy.

But anyone who identifies as being on the left might want to hold back their cheers. That is if they care at all about the vulnerable, or even the not yet vulnerable - the doing just about alrights (for now...).

Of course people are free to not care. Even to not admit it. Personally I respect honesty but it's not for everyone.

The concerns you raise are very valid.

The key question is can Boris' replacement distance themselves enough to avoid an utter car crash at the next GE.

That is when the change that we need could actually happen.

love it when the Conservatives start the hunt for a New Leader.

Like the Hunger Games.

Indeed it will be. For the unfortunate masses.

I see nothing to celebrate. People are already really struggling. They will suffer even more under whoever (Twelve Homes?) the ERG want as Prime Minister.

Graham Brady. He makes Boris look nearly as left-wing as Corbyn.

@thecatfromjapan

Nope.

Gove is done as a Leadership contender.

Maybe, but is he done stabbing people?

I suppose though it doesn't matter who is installed by The Telegraph and ERG. Let's face it, he/she will just be a puppet front. It's clear who really runs the country.

Democracy only a facade.

@Notonthestairs

LBC reporting Jack Doyle (Communications Director?) has resigned - nothing to do with Starmer smears & Partygate apparently. Always wanted to leave after 2 years.

Hmmm. If that were actually true, surely he could and would have agreed to hold back a few weeks rather than do it at the worst possible moment for his boss?

The energy loan is just fucking insulting.

Sorry to swear, but ...

I used to read The Beano when I was little.

Standard gag: a coin on a piece of elastic. Some sucker would try and pick it up, the Bash Street Kids (sneakily hidden around a corner - oh ho!) would hoik it away ... ha! ha! Japes ahoy!!!

I tried it once in real life.

It didn't work.

Which will not surprise any of you - because you're not 7.

And here's Sunak trying the same thing with his fuel costs loan.

It's bloody insulting.

He thinks we're mugs.

But apparently it's been less than two years and he offered his resignation in December?!

And, when we talk about mugs ... the mug his wife gave him to keep his hot beverage of choice warm cost the same as this loan.

He really is on a different planet.

Gove done stabbing people?

Nope. He's making a good attempt at stabbing long suffering Londoners.

He recently unveiled his latest 'levelling up' wheeze. New homes to be built in the Midlands and the North. Sweet FA for London...

.... despite London being the epicentre of the public health housing and homelessness emergency.

Two thirds of all of England's homeless families are in London.

Still, most (outside of London) won't care. Not yet. They will once the consequences bite. The resulting inflated house prices that leave locals priced out. Plus increased pollution. They're already complaining about priced out Londoners moving in. They ain't seen nothing yet.

@jgw1 I suppose we can only hope not ...

Drip drip, tick tock, we're creeping ever closer. Agree that todays cost of living 'help' is an absolute joke and will hardly help anybody at all.

Rishi Sunak comes across badly in interviews , he doesn't like any criticism and I think he is fake.
The sort of man used to his own way far too often.
He would be improvement on Boris Johnson , but that isn't a high bar really.
The stunt with the energy loans are just laughable and with all the bad news about higher prices and interest rates and council tax is just depressing. It all feels so bleak.

I'd like to see some real levelling up, Tealights.

There are regions that need it.

They won't get it.

And that will, ultimately, destroy the Conservative vote in the Red Wall.

Today's levelling/up stuff was shit.

And, yes, we also (desperately) need 'levelling within): most Londoners are struggling, a significant number are struggling in the most dire way.

We're being hammered.

But ... by the looks of the levelling-up paper that was published today, and Nazhim's policy suggestions, it's really not going to be cake and fireworks for deprived areas. It's just a plate of shit and empty promises.

And, when you've given a Party your vote because you wanted better, and you get handed that ... well, it's insulting.

I just don't think the Conservatives have enough room to build back trust befor the next GE.

Whoever the Leader is.

I think they may well and truly have fucked it.

I think they may well and truly have fucked it.

I tend to agree. I hope we’re right.

We're back to the don't wish Boris gone because the alternatives are worse aren't we. How there'll did we get here?

Just a wild thought, but if the tide really is turning against Johnson, I wonder if Sunak would resign? On principle, just to distance himself as far as possible from all the shit and then run for leader on an 'I thought it was disgraceful, I'd never do such a thing' ticket.

It would be a gamble, but it's not like he'd be destitute if it all went wrong...