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Boris Downfall Part 5

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Rinoachicken · 31/01/2022 16:34

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NETSRIK · 02/02/2022 07:53

@littledrummergirl

None of those were parties though were they. Sue Gray's report didn't say they were parties. Nothing wrong with a few people having some refreshments with their work colleagues.

Bollocks. At that time gatherings were prevented, work canteens were closed and people were eating at their desks to avoid mixing.

If gatherings were OK then why not just come out and say that they happened, that they were there. The lying, side stepping and rewriting of history is pathetic. Government officials telling me that questioning authority is not a priority, that I should do as I'm told like a good little person and let the big people do what the fuck they like is taking the piss and telling me that I am incapable of basic comprehensive skills because they don't like that I haven't gone along with the gas lighting is beyond the pale.
The sly, deceitful language and deliberate usage of abhorrent untruths which they will not repeat in a place where they could be challenged is crass, underhand and disgraceful behaviour.
The bloody cabinet need to go.

@littledrummergirl has put down here everything I have been trying to say but a lot better!
cakeorwine · 02/02/2022 07:53

@AdamRyan

www.bbc.co.uk/news/60213975

BBC on starmer/savile
I'm still disgusted

They are doubling down.

I hope that decent Tory voters see this tactic for what it is.

AdamRyan · 02/02/2022 08:00

I hope so too. I think Starmer is playing it exactly right, refusing to get drawn into detail and appealing to Conservative mps decency.

Peregrina · 02/02/2022 08:23

How many Tory MPs still have some decency?

ClaudineClare · 02/02/2022 08:29

It really is disgusting. I feel sorry for all Savile's victims. Some of them will be now reliving their trauma because of Johnson. The man who talked about money being "spaffed up against the wall" on "investigation into historic child abuse and all this kind of thing."

There is a William Blake poem which always makes me think of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and how he hides what he really is behind the Boris persona, although that mask has slipped. How can anyone decent defend him now and still think he is a fit and proper person to lead the country? They must have something very wrong with them too.

A Divine Image

Cruelty has a Human Heart
And Jealousy a Human Face
Terror the Human Form Divine
And Secrecy, the Human Dress

The Human Dress, is forged Iron
The Human Form, a fiery Forge.
The Human Face, a Furnace seal'd
The Human Heart, its hungry Gorge.

merrymouse · 02/02/2022 08:44

They are doubling down.

I hope that decent Tory voters see this tactic for what it is.

It makes him look very weak, but difficult to understand how he can survive Telegraph revelations about Nov ‘gathering’ in his flat.

Oblomov22 · 02/02/2022 08:45

Kier Starmers speech was superb. Political speech of his life.

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 02/02/2022 08:48

Of course they will double down on the Savile lie - we are all now talking about Starmer rather than the fact that our PM is under police investigation and has lied to parliament! Classic Bannon tactic.

DuncinToffee · 02/02/2022 08:49

This funny Grin

Johnson is gonna fight for his right to party ala Beastie Boys
twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/1488174679764439041?s=21

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 02/02/2022 08:50

There seem to be some new parties reported in the news today - are these already within the remit of Sue Gray/the met? There are so many parties I am starting to find it rather confusing! Perhaps the newsworthy aspect is that Johnson attended them?

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 02/02/2022 08:50

Grin Grin @DuncinToffee

DuncinToffee · 02/02/2022 08:52

@CryingAtTheDiscotheque

Of course they will double down on the Savile lie - we are all now talking about Starmer rather than the fact that our PM is under police investigation and has lied to parliament! Classic Bannon tactic.
Don't forget the £8.7b in PPE losses (on top of the £4.3b lost to fraud)
ClaudineClare · 02/02/2022 08:58

That is brilliant @DuncinToffee!

TokyoSushi · 02/02/2022 08:58

Tobias Ellwood putting in a no confidence letter today reposted Tamara Cohen of Sky News on Twitter. That's quite a big one. We just be slowly getting there but it's the longest, slowest death ever.

As for the doubling down on Savile, beyond the pale. Gah, I'm livid again this morning!

TokyoSushi · 02/02/2022 08:58

*reports

littledrummergirl · 02/02/2022 08:59

Thank you NETSRIK. I could say more but it would be an essay.
I am in the process of writing to my conservative mp though.

Tanith · 02/02/2022 09:00

@AdamRyan

I am disgusted he said that about Starmer and Saville. Just for lurkers www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-britain-savile-idUSL1N2RP200 So noone can call Johnson a liar in the commons, but he can make outrageous smears like that. Angry
They're livid with him. They were saving this for the GE, when the smear would have tarnished and deflected from the issues of the day and there would have been very little time for Starmer to counter the lies.

That's why Johnson was strongly advised not to use it.

However, a man like Johnson cares only about saving himself.
So he used it and to hell with them and what they wanted.

Now the whole thing has blown up far too early and the GE campaign has lost one of its carefully cultivated weapons.

ClaudineClare · 02/02/2022 09:11

The view from outside the UK

Simon Gosden. Esq. #fbpe 3.5% 🕷🇪🇺🇬🇧🏴‍☠️🦠💙 (@g_gosden) Tweeted:
An excoriating piece by CNN on Johnson. We’re a ‘world beating’ laughing stock now!

t.co/pKf9RF3tEA twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1488580647866310661?s=20&t=P6zbOyWv1c3pHrZU7rLMkA

DuncinToffee · 02/02/2022 09:14

BBC breakfast this morning

Nazir Afzal(former chief prosecutor NW England) - When Keir Starmer left the CPS we had the highest conviction rate for child sexual abuse in our history... that's his legacy. Boris Johnson said investigating child sexual abuse was money spaffed up a wall.

Video clip in tweet
twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1488796746574610432?s=21

ClaudineClare · 02/02/2022 09:20

This is turning into a massive own goal for Johnson, isn't it?

AdamRyan · 02/02/2022 09:38

Yeah exactly duncin
Starmer did so much as DPP to protect vulnerable victims and bring them justice. The Conservatives have dismantled much of that and now claim he caused the problem Angry
They are beyond contempt.
I have actually never voted Labour before, was a member of the lib dems but damn right I'll vote for starmer.
Rather have a lawyer than a liar indeed Grin

derxa · 02/02/2022 09:54

Johnson is like the class clown in school. The trouble is that his critics have started to sound more like po faced prigs the longer this goes on. I used to be a teacher - a strict one actually. Unfortunately although I had to come down on characters like this they made me laugh. Soz

ClaudineClare · 02/02/2022 09:58

@derxa

Johnson is like the class clown in school. The trouble is that his critics have started to sound more like po faced prigs the longer this goes on. I used to be a teacher - a strict one actually. Unfortunately although I had to come down on characters like this they made me laugh. Soz
I would rather be a "po-faced prig" (how very Blytonesque!)than the supporter of an amoral bastard who will run roughshod over the victims of rape and sexual abuse in order to score pathetic political points.
derxa · 02/02/2022 10:02

I would rather be a "po-faced prig" (how very Blytonesque!)than the supporter of an amoral bastard who will run roughshod over the victims of rape and sexual abuse in order to score pathetic political points. Yes but I'm not defending Johnson. This is how he gets away with so much.

ENoeuf · 02/02/2022 10:03

derxa

Johnson is like the class clown in school. The trouble is that his critics have started to sound more like po faced prigs the longer this goes on. I used to be a teacher - a strict one actually. Unfortunately although I had to come down on characters like this they made me laugh. Soz

This kind of dumbing down of him is how we got here. He’s nothing like a class clown - he’s more like the CEO of an academy giving jobs to his mates and letting the shit staff stay while the decent ones leave because of his bullying, cronyesque ways.

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