Page 7 | to think the common idea that Diana was murdered is absurd

Emmelina · 30/01/2022 00:15

It’s a reasonably common conspiracy theory.
The facts are evident, though.
Her driver was drunk , she chose not to wear a seatbelt and continued to ride without it even when the press started chasing them and the drunk driving became more erratic.
I am sorry she died, 39 is no age. And the sight of her boys at the funeral will be in my memory forever. But to call it pre-meditated murder is ludicrous.

Enko · 30/01/2022 00:16

I voted YABU not because I think Princess Diana was murdered but because I think it is unreasonable to not be able to entertain it as a possibility.

Itsnotover · 30/01/2022 00:24

She was 36, not 39.

figuringoutmylife · 30/01/2022 00:32

Sometimes I think people mix up the concept of murder with people being part of why her death happened. For example one may say if you were being chased by paps could it play a role in dangerous driving? Well yes, of course. As could so many other things. Are they directly responsible for your death? No. Of course too the fact she wasn't wearing a seatbelt. Had she have been wearing one, would she have died? Likely not. People confuse the idea something is fact with what are actually factors.

DeeCeeCherry · 30/01/2022 00:38

i think the queen gave an internal sigh of relief and the royals in general as she was a loose cannon especially after the panorama interview

Emotive language to stir people up.

Ive not heard anyone talk about this in any regular fashion for donkeys years. So I cant see how its a common view.

Some of the language on this thread tho.. loonies, morons (hate that word), complete idiots, thick etc🙄. Calm down and let it go, Diana has been dead for years

SomePosters · 30/01/2022 00:48

I don’t blame people for mistrusting the royal family to be fair but the evidence doesn’t weigh

Im not saying they wouldn’t though 😂

DinosaurDuvet · 30/01/2022 00:50

Personally I don’t think she was murdered, as previous posters have said a car crash is too unpredictable in terms of damage. A better way to hide it would have been a bomb and claim a terrorist attack. I also don’t think the Royals would have any sort of influence on such a thing and the government couldn’t care less.

That said, something like that happening is not out of the realms of possibility given all the proven collusion of the British government in the north of Ireland alone. And I’m sure around the world.

Yankey812 · 30/01/2022 01:08

It' partly because she is was a princess and died in a very kind of boring way people want to rationalize it is also not completely absurd they may have known she never wore a seatbelt it would be easy to organize.

Rhannion · 30/01/2022 01:09

@runningoutofnewnames

I think it's unlikely, but not impossible given we know things like this do happen - look at history. And, it's why the royals have protection, some people are out to get them.

The suggestion is, this could be secret services due to Diana having a child with Dodi, right? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there are sociopathic people / institutions with enough money / power who didn't want that to happen, it's not beyond the bounds of reason.

I think it's pretty unlikely. But we all need to be wary of anything we're seeing through the lens of the media, we don't know what the real story is. That's not tin foil hat stuff, that comes from working in marketing and around PR types!

I think people who say they know for sure are being idiots, yes! They don't have the evidence. But to entertain it as a possibility isn't being stupid IMO.

One of Diana’s close friends who was with beforehand said that Diana was definitely not pregnant.

Hawkins001 · 30/01/2022 01:14

@makkapacca

Heard a journalist on the radio the other day speculating it was not an accident and heard others saying the same. AIBU to think people like this are complete idiots?

Why are they ? Who's to say what happens in the rooms, in the corridors of various people. Who s to say for example elites vs elites ? Ect.

Think lionel luthors, philosophy may have tainted my cynical mind.

unname · 30/01/2022 01:15

@makkapacca

i think the queen gave an internal sigh of relief and the royals in general as she was a loose cannon especially after the panorama interview. Her death was therefore convenient but I still think it was an accident. She was under a shoddy security team.

The idea that you know how anyone, particularly the Queen, felt when two you boys lost their mother doesn’t strike you as also being absurd?

SantaClawsServiette · 30/01/2022 03:20

It's a crazy theory.

But maybe more common than people think. I saw an informal pole about it once (maybe on MN, I can't remember now) and there were way more people than I'd have expected who thought it was a likely possibility.

Itsnotover · 30/01/2022 08:24

The Queen never gives away her thoughts on anything. It's part of her job to be that way. So no idea why people think they know what her immediate thoughts would have been in the aftermath of Diana's death.

user1471538283 · 30/01/2022 09:24

Even the surgeon attending her said if she had been wearing a seatbelt she would have survived with a broken arm and some ribs.

It was a bad judgement call on her behalf. I can imagine being upset and wanting to get away quickly but I drummed it into my DS to always wear a seatbelt. The only one to wear one survived and he was in a vulnerable position.

Even going relatively slowly with a seat belt and airbags can cause injury.

Going that speed with a drunk driver and without a seatbelt was only ever going to end badly.

Original poster

makkapacca · 30/01/2022 09:43

The only one to wear one survived and he was in a vulnerable position

it was never confirmed trevor reese jones was wearing 1, this was disputed alot.

OP posts:

MasterBeth · 30/01/2022 09:51

@makkapacca

because everybody i know thinks it was a murder.

Get better friends

DePfeffoff · 30/01/2022 09:52

I never understand why people put any significance on Diana having written something at some point about getting killed in a car crash. No-one who was plotting to kill her would tell her or anyone else about it, and if there was any suspicion that a plot had leaked they would change it. The truth is she wasn't a particularly bright woman, she read a lot of fairly lurid fiction, and she developed a bit of a persecution complex.

But of course the whole theory falls apart anyway on the basis that if anyone wanted to kill her it would have been child's play to do so relatively unobtrusively in the UK. Why take on all the risks of trying to kill her by a perfectly survivable accident in another country where the police, medics, media etc couldn't be controlled?

knittingaddict · 30/01/2022 13:02

I agree with you op, it's a silly conspiracy theory. Some people seem to need a reason for everything and horrible accident and negligence just aren't enough for them.

Original poster

makkapacca · 30/01/2022 13:05

it's also how the tabloids keep going on about it to this day with apparent m15 statements saying it was murder etc.

OP posts:

knittingaddict · 30/01/2022 13:09

@SantaHat

We were on holiday about 5 years ago, a forensic scientist gave a talk about this subject

Sorry, but I’ve got to come back to this. You were on holiday? And attended a talk about how Diana was murdered by a “forensic scientist”? For entertainment on holiday?! That is quite something!

Might have gone to crime con.

Alexandra2001 · 30/01/2022 13:14

Couldn't have been murder because car accidents have very uncertain outcomes, folk survive a 100mph crash but die in a 40mph one.

If she was to be murdered, they would have killed her when she was out on Dodi's boat, explosion fire drowning.

Trouble with conspiracies is someone always talks... as the Queens son is finding out.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/01/2022 13:26

@Yankey812

It' partly because she is was a princess and died in a very kind of boring way people want to rationalize it is also not completely absurd they may have known she never wore a seatbelt it would be easy to organize.

Except that the evidence is and always has been that she did wear seatbelts whenever they were available, and the only reason she didn't on this occasion may have been that one of the seatbelts in the rear compartment of the car was stiff. (That was shown in evidence.) In order for that to be deliberate, the Royal Conspirator(s) would have had to know a] that she was going to decide impulsively that night to go out unexpectedly when only an off-duty member of staff was available to drive her b] what car she would be going in and c] which side of it she would choose to sit in.

It's a load of foetid old dingoes' kidneys, this malarky.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/01/2022 13:30

Why the nonsend about Henri Paul being drunk, his level of blood alcohol would have left him paraplegic

Blood in the car which was shown by DNA testing to be his, and subsequent testing of the liquid behind his eye, was three times over the French limit for alcohol in the blood; someone accustomed to drinking four or five measures of Ricard in an evening (which was what he seemed to have had; he had recently been on a treatment for alcoholism, which rather goes to make this likely) wouldn't even have a particularly bad hangover from that, they would merely be a potential danger to themselves and others on the road if they got behind the wheel of car. But three times over the low French limit would leave nobody paraplegic who was not paraplegic already.

(I have a feeling you meant paralytic rather than paraplegic, but the same applies. Drunk, but not too drunk to function seems about right for three times over.)

Plutoisaplanet · 30/01/2022 13:32

@ChimChimeny

I dont think she was murdered but the number of paps and the dangerous driving must have contributed to or caused the car accident

This

somewhereoverthechipshop · 30/01/2022 14:28

The seatbelt could have easily been broken to ensure she didn’t wear one